Random FCPX ramblings...

[MovieCutter]

Of course you have a learning curve. You are using a new piece of software. There are changes, additions, and deletions of functionality from what you have used in the past. You are learning about those and forming a new mental picture of how it all works together, and eventually the muscle memory to optimally work with it. It's a natural process.

BTW, thanks for more details of your work flow. I find it interesting, and eerily similar to limited FCP hacking I've done in the past.

It's not the learning curve that's the issue. It took me a day to figure FCP X out. It's simply the lack of tools and features that hobbles it...nothing more. What I can do in FCP7 that takes me an hour, would take far longer in FCPX if I could do it at ALL (and let's not even talk about output features or lack thereof).

 

[thelongmorrow]

Argh

I just spent three hours breaking into "final cut pro X" (intentional lowercase titles) and I need some placee to vent. The level of precision is not even close to Final Cut Pro 6, I wanted to throw my mouse when trying to move the playhead to the exact frame I wanted and then use the blade tool. I cant for the life of me figure out how to rearrange my workspace, (I use a full monitor just for all my browser (clips, sequences, effects, filters, and transitions) so my main monitor has just my time line, viewer and canvas. I hate that the audio is "attached" to the video. The magnetic time line sucks. I just can't use this software for my needs. Maybe for light editing and home videos from my Iphone.......

If only they added the following to FCP6: background rendering, full use of PC processing, some of the text settings (I never liked FCP6's text/title settings), included the effects, transitions, and live viewing of such.

 

[evil_santa]

What talent? You mean talent to edit? No, there is no talent required, just go to a course and you're done. Its just a skill.

To produce something worthwhile with that skill is talent.

My argument is now the need for skill in editing is becoming irrelvant, the people who will still have jobs are the ones with talent.

Someone said they got a camera but the can't shoot like a legend. Of course you are just saying that because you have dont have the talent/creative vision etc. Most of the skill required to produce a photograph has become irrelvant with dlsr and photoshop.

You still need talent to produce a good photograph.

To clarify Editing = learned skill that you are trained, FCPX is trying to make it so that you don't need as much skill and therefore training to achieve the same results.

Thats the most ignorant post i have ever read on any forum, over the years i have found there are 2 types of editors, those who can work the interface and those who can edit, the ones who can edit clearly have a talent for it.

I have worked with many editor who are proud to have done all the training , know every short cut and key stroke, but can't join 2 bits of video together without it looking wrong! yes they are editors & no they don't have talent.

To clarify; Some editor have talent and are good at there job & producers want to work with them, other push buttons and don't get asked back.

As for FCP X , I can't see us upgrading any time soon as it simply wont work in our environment in it current form.

 

[SatyMahajan]

I cant for the life of me figure out how to rearrange my workspace, (I use a full monitor just for all my browser (clips, sequences, effects, filters, and transitions) so my main monitor has just my time line, viewer and canvas. I hate that the audio is "attached" to the video. The magnetic time line sucks.

If you go to Window > Show Events on Second Display, that might help a little.

You can detach audio from the video by right clicking on the clip in the timeline and select Detach Audio

You can revert back to non-Magnetic timeline mode by pressing P, which will activate the position tool, similar to the selection tool in FCP6/7. You can turn off skimming by hitting S.

Hope this helps!

 

[MovieCutter]

What talent? You mean talent to edit? No, there is no talent required, just go to a course and you're done. Its just a skill.

To produce something worthwhile with that skill is talent.

My argument is now the need for skill in editing is becoming irrelvant, the people who will still have jobs are the ones with talent.

Someone said they got a camera but the can't shoot like a legend. Of course you are just saying that because you have dont have the talent/creative vision etc. Most of the skill required to produce a photograph has become irrelvant with dlsr and photoshop.

You still need talent to produce a good photograph.

To clarify Editing = learned skill that you are trained, FCPX is trying to make it so that you don't need as much skill and therefore training to achieve the same results.

Wow, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I could go into pages and pages about how I learned the skill in order to realize my talent, but you obviously know all about what it takes to be an editor.