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  1. Mac7 macrumors 6502a

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    When I click on a thread that has multiple pages, it would open that thread to a random page, for example page 9 of the thread instead of page 1. Anyone else experiencing this?
     
  2. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Generally it goes to the first unread page/post.
     
  3. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    I very often had a sense of that when vBulletin was used.

    Now that XenForo is used, there's probably a logical, technical explanation.

    Beyond that logic, less technically

    It'll be ideal to never have an apparently random/unexpected result in response to a predefined (side-defined) action that's intended to produce results that are specific and/or expected.
     
  4. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    @Mac7 is that type of randomness sometimes apparent after replying to a multi-page topic?

    Maybe relevant: today's screenshot at http://forums.macrumors.com/posts/21443289
     
  5. Mac7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    No, happens to threads that I haven't replied to.
     
  6. Mac7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Sometimes with threads that only have 1 page, it'll take me to a random post in that thread instead of the first post
     
  7. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Would it be the first unread post?
     
  8. Mac7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I don't think so cause it happens for threads that I haven't looked at before
     
  9. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Which browser, version and platform?
     
  10. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    This happens to me now and then in Safari on iOS 8.3 (iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2). This may have something to do with marking all forums read, being that the system assumes you've read up until that point even though you've never entered that thread.
     
  11. Mac7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Happens in both safari and chrome
     
  12. Nermal Moderator

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    I haven't noticed it with unread threads, but I've seen it happen with read threads where it'll pick a random post instead of the first unread one. I use Safari at home and SeaMonkey (Firefox) at work, but I'm not sure whether I'm seeing it with both browsers.
     
  13. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Thanks. Which versions, and which platform?

    With Safari: is the problem reproducible with extensions off?

    Is the problem reproducible with OS X in safe mode?
     
  14. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    Thank you. I think this issue has to do with the unread functionality. The first unread post in a thread that I have not entered should be the OP, but it doesn't always work out that way .
     
  15. arn macrumors god

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    I agree this is confusing. Maybe we could link the title to the first and then something else to unread. Seems that would be more expected behavior.

    arn
     
  16. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    That would be more like the way the forums used to work before the switch (which is perfectly fine and probably more consistent with people's expectations, assuming that "something else" is kind of obvious and easy to use on desktop and mobile devices).
     
  17. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    How about linking the thread title to the first post (OP) and having a small button that simply reads "Unread" next to the thread title or after the title time stamp that takes us to the first undead post? Though that still doesn't fix the fact that the "first unread" function sometimes takes us to a random post. Perhaps someone needs to take a close look at the code that makes up the "first unread" function? How exactly does the software determine which post is the first unread post? That determination may be buggy.
     
  18. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    I get this only when I mark all forums as read then on returning it'll take me to the first post in all threads after the time I'd clicked mark as read.
     
  19. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    I've done some tests, including logging time stamps, here on my iOS devices and that isn't as reliable as I'd expected.
     
  20. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Give it time.

    I suspect that if you remove the misleading emphases from other parts of the page, then the emphasis (bold) on the title alone will become more strongly associated with 'unread'. And so it should be no surprise to find yourself at the first unread post after clicking on the title of something unread.
     
  21. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Spun off partly from (not to be confused with) the random pages topic …



    From MacRumors Forums Theme Change and New Platform:



    A suggestion for Mac users of Safari

    @Mac7, @ardchoille50, @Nermal and @Dark Void: if the explanation is not as suggested at http://forums.macrumors.com/posts/21463800 (involving unread behaviours) – and if you use Safari on a Mac – then you might experiment with the routine below. Early indications are that it improves things for me; it may do the same for you.

    First, open each of these posts in a new window (one per window) and refrain from scrolling:
    1. http://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20879932
    2. http://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20898588
    Close both windows, then quit Safari.


    Launch Terminal, run the following one-line command:
    Code:
    defaults write com.apple.Safari com.apple.Safari.ContentPageGroupIdentifier.WebKit2AcceleratedDrawingEnabled -bool false

    Relaunch Safari.

    Open each of these posts in a new window (one per window) and again, refrain from scrolling:
    1. http://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20879932
    2. http://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20898588
    Does the first window have, at the top of its screen, the post from adamhenry with the 'desktop.jpg' attachment (earth from space)?

    Does the second window have, at the top of its screen, the post from adamhenry with the 'Captura de pantalla 2015-03-28 a las 16.03.40.png' attachment?


    Side note: an earlier experiment

    Speed up Safari - Mac GuidesAdjust the 'Render Before Display' Timer

    Whether the default is 1 (one second) with more modern versions of Safari, I don't know. I experimented with five- and ten-second delays, reverted to 0.25.

    (Thanks to whoever drew attention to that guide. I can't recall where it was mentioned.)
     
  22. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Side note: the merger of two topics has lost the distinguishing title. As I said, "not to be confused with" …

    :(
     

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