Really considering i4 switch to HTC Inspire..

[walie]

What makes you say that? I haven't seen any other smartphone camera that is better than the iP5. Like the displays, some come close, but still not as good. If you have reference to another phone, please post the model. I'm very curious to see the difference.

Thanks.

iPhone4
1/3.2" 5Mpix backlit sensor
LED flash
3.85 mm f/2.8 lens
touch to focus

Nokia N8
1/1.83" 12Mpix sensor (bigger than most point & shoot cameras, including the Canon S95 and G12 and twice the size as that in the iPhone4)
xenon flash with AF-assist lamp
fast Carl Zeiss lens
active neutral density filter
face-detection with red-eye removal


Additionally, the "more megapixels isn't always better" argument doesn't apply here as the N8's massively larger sensor results in it having the same pixel size as those in the iPhone4 - 1.75nm

sources:
http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2010/06/apple-iphone-4-camera-specs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format
http://blog.gsmarena.com/how-large-is-the-nokia-n8-12-megapixel-large-image-sensor/
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/12/nokia-n8-photography-all-the-faqs/

 

[headfuzz]

iPhone4
1/3.2" 5Mpix backlit sensor
LED flash
3.85 mm f/2.8 lens
touch to focus

Nokia N8
1/1.83" 12Mpix sensor (bigger than most point & shoot cameras, including the Canon S95 and G12 and twice the size as that in the iPhone4)
xenon flash with AF-assist lamp
fast Carl Zeiss lens
active neutral density filter
face-detection with red-eye removal


Additionally, the "more megapixels isn't always better" argument doesn't apply here as the N8's massively larger sensor results in it having the same pixel size as those in the iPhone4 - 1.75nm

sources:
http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2010/06/apple-iphone-4-camera-specs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format
http://blog.gsmarena.com/how-large-is-the-nokia-n8-12-megapixel-large-image-sensor/
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/12/nokia-n8-photography-all-the-faqs/

I've not been a fan of Nokias for a while but my mate brought his N8 round and hooked it over HDMI into my 40" 1080p telly. The images from his camera were pin sharp. Simply amazing quality.

Without doubt the best phone camera on the market.

 

[entatlrg]

Convince me out of it.

I've heard battery life is bad but they say that about iPhone 4 too and I make it fit my needs to get me through the day.

I must say I used to switch phones all the time before I got first gen iPhone, then I sold and got a BB Curve to hold me over while I waited for 3G to release, I hated that thing. So then 3G, 3GS, 4. Haven't tried anything else.

Android has been very tempting but lack of AT&T selection made it an easy no.

Now its $399 no contract/$99 on contract for a phone with a faster CPU and 4.3" screen. No retina display, but I Just got the ipad (first gen clearance) and its not retina either but sufficient and impressive on its own.

Really considering this. Especially since I still have an iOS device now. And if I sold iPhone 4 and got HTC Inspire off contract, I'd still be fine and eligible for iPhone 5 if that's incredible and knocks the socks off of everything. But I might want to play with one first before making drastic decisions. Been with iPhone for a few gens now and haven't looked at much else.

I think the competition is seriously heating up regardless.

Just do more research yourself, there's enough info out there now to make a wise buying decision.

My opinion Android sucks for reasons most already know.

Leaving an iPhone to go elsewhere is a huge step down in many respects.

But hey, try it, you may like it, if not you can go back to the iPhone...

 

[headfuzz]

Just do more research yourself, there's enough info out there now to make a wise buying decision.

My opinion Android sucks for reasons most already know.

Leaving an iPhone to go elsewhere is a huge step down in many respects.

But hey, try it, you may like it, if not you can go back to the iPhone...

I went from iPhone 3G to HTC Desire. The Desire is (apart from the pitiful onboard storage) a great phone, but lately for reasons I cannot explain Android (2.2, unrooted) has had some bizarre bugs start appearing.

Emails showing up in the wrong account and the mail client crashing when you try to mark as read or delete (a common issue if you do a web search), opening up the text messages app upon receipt of a text from Person A will open the thread for Person L (solved by installing Handcent SMS app which is basically a clone of the iPhone messaging app down to the ripped off Emoji icon set in the Emoji plugin) and most importantly Android Calendar has stopped syncing with Google Calendar with no change to the settings. All my Apple kit syncs with Google Calendar beautifully and vice versa. My Google Android phone, not so much. Go figure.

As a result I think I'll probably get an iPhone 5 when my contract is up in October.

 

[iPad 2]

Why the HTC Inspire?

It's no more faster or more powerful than the iPhone 4...

If you want to switch, switch to the Atrix or the Evo 3D or something.

 

[zap2]

iPhone4
1/3.2" 5Mpix backlit sensor
LED flash
3.85 mm f/2.8 lens
touch to focus

Nokia N8
1/1.83" 12Mpix sensor (bigger than most point & shoot cameras, including the Canon S95 and G12 and twice the size as that in the iPhone4)
xenon flash with AF-assist lamp
fast Carl Zeiss lens
active neutral density filter
face-detection with red-eye removal


Additionally, the "more megapixels isn't always better" argument doesn't apply here as the N8's massively larger sensor results in it having the same pixel size as those in the iPhone4 - 1.75nm

sources:
http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2010/06/apple-iphone-4-camera-specs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format
http://blog.gsmarena.com/how-large-is-the-nokia-n8-12-megapixel-large-image-sensor/
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/12/nokia-n8-photography-all-the-faqs/

Wonderful post! Well explained and sourced!!

I will say this, I had a Nokia N8 and iPhone 4, I've since sold the N8, but gosh that camera gave some nice pictures. Without a doubt better then the iPhone 4. In ideal situations, the iPhone 4 can hold its own, but with movements, dark, etc the N8 really shines. The camera makes the device much larger, but I'd for something like that to become the standard.

The camera was great, but iOS is just still soo far above S^3 really when it comes to text input and apps. No portrait QWERTY was a killer.

 

[Reach9]

Wait for the iPhone 5 to be announced and then see if you want to make that switch!

 

[gslrider]

iPhone4
1/3.2" 5Mpix backlit sensor
LED flash
3.85 mm f/2.8 lens
touch to focus

Nokia N8
1/1.83" 12Mpix sensor (bigger than most point & shoot cameras, including the Canon S95 and G12 and twice the size as that in the iPhone4)
xenon flash with AF-assist lamp
fast Carl Zeiss lens
active neutral density filter
face-detection with red-eye removal


Additionally, the "more megapixels isn't always better" argument doesn't apply here as the N8's massively larger sensor results in it having the same pixel size as those in the iPhone4 - 1.75nm

sources:
http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2010/06/apple-iphone-4-camera-specs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format
http://blog.gsmarena.com/how-large-is-the-nokia-n8-12-megapixel-large-image-sensor/
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/12/nokia-n8-photography-all-the-faqs/

Unfortunately, according to other reviews, the camera is pretty much the only good point about the N8. But I have to admit, it takes pretty good pics. But considering it's other shortcomings, would rather spend that much cash towards an iPhone 5. As well, not all higher res cameras are created equal, especially if you never plan on printing anything bigger than 8.5" x 10" pics. The quality would have to be compared pixel for pixel. How does the quality of the Nokia camera at 5MP compare to the quality of the iPhone 4? From what I've read, unless you really have an eye, you can't really tell the difference.

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/nokia-n8-dark-gray/4505-6452_7-34150875.html
http://www.trustedreviews.com/Nokia-N8_Mobile-Phone_review
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/nokia-n8-692448

/review?artc_pg=7

 

[falconeight]

I left iphone 4 for a captivate then went through every android phone in existince, a blackberry, two wp7, then back to iphone 4. The grass is not greener on the other side. Plus its expensive. The inspire would be great with its giant screen but there is nothing on itmthat takes advantage of the screen except the battery drain.

 

[walie]

Unfortunately, according to other reviews, the camera is pretty much the only good point about the N8. But I have to admit, it takes pretty good pics. But considering it's other shortcomings, would rather spend that much cash towards an iPhone 5. As well, not all higher res cameras are created equal, especially if you never plan on printing anything bigger than 8.5" x 10" pics. The quality would have to be compared pixel for pixel. How does the quality of the Nokia camera at 5MP compare to the quality of the iPhone 4? From what I've read, unless you really have an eye, you can't really tell the difference.

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/nokia-n8-dark-gray/4505-6452_7-34150875.html
http://www.trustedreviews.com/Nokia-N8_Mobile-Phone_review
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/nokia-n8-692448

/review?artc_pg=7

*shrug* you only asked for the best camera in a phone, nothing about the phone itself and i answered the question. the n8 has fantastic hardware, but the software is badly outdated

comparing the two, the iphone4's camera generally over emphasize colours almost to the point of saturation, while the n8 produces a more neutral picture, some people prefer this, others dont

the higher megapixel count of the n8 will give more cropping possibilities compared to the ihpone4

whenever its said that the iphone4 has similar pictures to the n8 is in pictures taken during the say when there is plenty of light available, the big difference will be in low light situations where the n8 pulls ahead.

 

[maclaptop]

Convince me out of it.

I've heard battery life is bad but they say that about iPhone 4 too and I make it fit my needs to get me through the day.

I must say I used to switch phones all the time before I got first gen iPhone, then I sold and got a BB Curve to hold me over while I waited for 3G to release, I hated that thing. So then 3G, 3GS, 4. Haven't tried anything else.

Android has been very tempting but lack of AT&T selection made it an easy no.

Now its $399 no contract/$99 on contract for a phone with a faster CPU and 4.3" screen. No retina display, but I Just got the ipad (first gen clearance) and its not retina either but sufficient and impressive on its own.

Really considering this. Especially since I still have an iOS device now. And if I sold iPhone 4 and got HTC Inspire off contract, I'd still be fine and eligible for iPhone 5 if that's incredible and knocks the socks off of everything. But I might want to play with one first before making drastic decisions. Been with iPhone for a few gens now and haven't looked at much else.

I think the competition is seriously heating up regardless.

Threads like this are so entertaining. It gives the Google and Android haters a place to vent, tell stories and make me smile.

I have both an iPhone 4, and HTC Inspire currently on AT&T. They're both very nice. I have no desire to compare them, declaring one the best, due to the fact they are two distinctively different devices.

That said, the one aspect that many fail to understand is battery life. The small 3.5" iPhone display should get longer battery life than that of a phone with a large 4.3" display. It's perfectly normal. Just like a laptop display draws more power than any other component, the same applies to smartphones.

Therefore when someone brags about longer battery life of an iphone that reveals their lack of knowledge. Or their willingness to lie. Or both.

I have both Andriod and iPhone because I enjoy them both and have no desire to pick one over the other.

I don't need to bash any product to feel better.

After all they're just phones.

 

[gslrider]

*shrug* you only asked for the best camera in a phone, nothing about the phone itself and i answered the question. the n8 has fantastic hardware, but the software is badly outdated

comparing the two, the iphone4's camera generally over emphasize colours almost to the point of saturation, while the n8 produces a more neutral picture, some people prefer this, others dont

the higher megapixel count of the n8 will give more cropping possibilities compared to the ihpone4

whenever its said that the iphone4 has similar pictures to the n8 is in pictures taken during the say when there is plenty of light available, the big difference will be in low light situations where the n8 pulls ahead.

In terms of the camera, yes, on paper it's better than the iP4's 5MP camera. But looking at the pics of the n8, I really don't see that much difference. Not sure if you have an iP4, but my pictures come out pretty good. No over saturation of colours at all, both in plenty of light situations and low lighting situations. However, with all cameras, when it is to low of lighting it does get grainy. Plus the HDR feature is a great added feature. Not ideal on all conditions, but when really needed brings out a lot of detail. Better on scenic shots, than portrait, but still pretty good. I don't believe the n8 has that feature. It's true the larger MPs of the n8 allow you to print in larger formats, but like I said, most pictures never get blown up more than 8x10. Which a 3MP camera can do.

I don't disagree with you regarding the camera, but with all camera phones, you also have take into consideration of the phone itself (that is the main point). You just don't buy a phone for the camera, you buy it for the phone. That's why I said the iP4 has the best camera in it's category, that being a smartphone with a camera. But in fairness, if they had worked on the Symbian^3 OS as much as they did on the camera, as well as more support from app developers, I'd consider this phone.

 

[iApples]

Buy the HTC Inspire. You will LOVE IT! You'll love it so much that you'll return it a few days after purchasing it.

I don't get why you want people to talk you out of something? Are you not capable of making your own decisions in life? Buy the device if you like it. If you don't like it after purchasing it, simply return it. Trial and error is the only way you're going to learn something.

 

[zap2]

In terms of the camera, yes, on paper it's better than the iP4's 5MP camera. But looking at the pics of the n8, I really don't see that much difference. Not sure if you have an iP4, but my pictures come out pretty good. No over saturation of colours at all, both in plenty of light situations and low lighting situations. However, with all cameras, when it is to low of lighting it does get grainy. Plus the HDR feature is a great added feature. Not ideal on all conditions, but when really needed brings out a lot of detail. Better on scenic shots, than portrait, but still pretty good. I don't believe the n8 has that feature. It's true the larger MPs of the n8 allow you to print in larger formats, but like I said, most pictures never get blown up more than 8x10. Which a 3MP camera can do.

I don't disagree with you regarding the camera, but with all camera phones, you also have take into consideration of the phone itself (that is the main point). You just don't buy a phone for the camera, you buy it for the phone. That's why I said the iP4 has the best camera in it's category, that being a smartphone with a camera. But in fairness, if they had worked on the Symbian^3 OS as much as they did on the camera, as well as more support from app developers, I'd consider this phone.

Well you might not see a difference, thats fine. Its a personal things depending on quality of eyes, screens, etc. I have had both phones and the iPhone while its nice in good little, doesn't stand up to the Nokia N8 is low lighting.

The N8 has much better specs, and that translates into better performance. Even in low lighting. The extra MPs aren't the issue, although the 12MP are nice.

As for your 2nd paragraph, you're moving the target. First it was your haven't see a better camera on a phone. Now its you have to look at both the camera quality and the phone's OS. I agree thats how I consider my purchases, thats why I don't own a Nokia N8 anymore, but the camera quality may be THAT important to someone. There's no way for us to tell everyone what they should be looking for.

 

[rever3nce]

Convince me out of it.

I've heard battery life is bad but they say that about iPhone 4 too and I make it fit my needs to get me through the day.

I must say I used to switch phones all the time before I got first gen iPhone, then I sold and got a BB Curve to hold me over while I waited for 3G to release, I hated that thing. So then 3G, 3GS, 4. Haven't tried anything else.

Android has been very tempting but lack of AT&T selection made it an easy no.

Now its $399 no contract/$99 on contract for a phone with a faster CPU and 4.3" screen. No retina display, but I Just got the ipad (first gen clearance) and its not retina either but sufficient and impressive on its own.

Really considering this. Especially since I still have an iOS device now. And if I sold iPhone 4 and got HTC Inspire off contract, I'd still be fine and eligible for iPhone 5 if that's incredible and knocks the socks off of everything. But I might want to play with one first before making drastic decisions. Been with iPhone for a few gens now and haven't looked at much else.

I think the competition is seriously heating up regardless.

i did this and regretted it . ended up paying another $250 just to get my iphone back. i went out of my way to get my iphone back. its just not the same . and battery life sucks!!!! almost 2 charges per day . sorry but i cant do that . and apple apps store is way better