I wont even mind if it performs exactly the same as the current 8600m gt as long as its an ATI card.
8600m gt card has very nice performance but I would think that apple would use the newest ATI cards at this point.
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I wont even mind if it performs exactly the same as the current 8600m gt as long as its an ATI card.
8600m gt card has very nice performance but I would think that apple would use the newest ATI cards at this point.
I haven't noticed any issues on mine quite yet. in fact, it has worked absolutely flawlessly since Christmas, when I bought it.
Sorry if this has been asked, but would nVidia issue working cards and such? Or is up to the buyer to fix it themselves?
This is the thing that makes the nvidia gpu owners nervous that it doesnt have to show any signs of problems.
The 8600m gt cards in the mbp can work flawlessly and one day it just wont boot up the screen and the card will die due to heat cycling.
Heat cycling is when the gpu diode will get cold to hot and cold to hot eventually the gpu failing. And the trouble with this is that when it gets cold to warm instead of hot it could prolong the gpu's life but that might be just a little bit out of 3 years when the apple care has run out.
And still today apple has not even mentioned the nvidia issue or offered extended warranty or any fixes like every other OEM has.
Doesn't take long for these threads regarding the 8600's to devolve..
We already got the "OMG I sold my computer on rumors" type of posts as well as the "My computer is doomed to explode in a fiery rain of shrapnel in the immediate future." Any other new ideas..or shall we go around a few more times?
We already got the "OMG I sold my computer on rumors" type of posts as well as the "My computer is doomed to explode in a fiery rain of shrapnel in the immediate future." Any other new ideas..or shall we go around a few more times?
Well what other news are there to go around with?? There's new evidence now that some desktop gpus from nvidia and some 9xxx series cards could be defective just like all the 8xxx series and this seems to be "new news" to us all.
And since Apple hasnt announced anything reguarding the nvidia issue and apple is not an exception to the 8xxx series being defective.. this talk will never end.
So let me get this straight.....your going to get rid of your mac because of the graphics chip problem? So what will be your replacement then? Better make sure then that the new computer doesn't have nvidia in it.
Why dont you opt for a macbook or a mac pro desktop. At least the macbook doesnt have an nvidia gpu and should be fine and the mac pro, heck you can just stick whatever card you want in those! =D
Or buy a cheap used macbook and wait another month for the new mb and mbp.
Or buy a cheap used macbook and wait another month for the new mb and mbp.
I don't think Apple can "own up to it" before nvidia "own up" about the parts that have been sent to Apple, if you see what I mean. Of course this may have happened in private between the two companies.
But if Apple (or any other vendor) do a recall or extended warranty or whatever and place the blame on nvidia without being able to prove their claim then they'll be taking a lot of risk.
fwiw, I'm not defending nvidia or saying that Apple shouldn't do something. I think there pretty clearly is an issue of some kind with this run of chips. I also suspect Apple, along with every other vendor who has a big buy into this line of chips, is very painfully aware of problems, but can't say anything public just yet. Think about the battery recalls a few years ago - users were aware of issues and support staff at Apple, Sony, Dell were quietly fast-tracking replacements when a symptom hit their magic button list of issues for a while before anything was announced.
You're right that the 3650 wouldn't be an upgrade... in fact I beleive it would be something of a step down in many areas.. but you're wrong about it being the most embarrassing GPU update in Apple's history.... they've actually taken steps back before (and that's not counting going from the iBook's dedicated GPU to the MacBook's integrated one).
This just sucks. I've never heard of anything this systemic in graphics before... or in the computer world... or even in any area of anything.
Oh, damn. I really want to buy a new Mac very very much. But the only reason I am waiting for their september release is a defective GPU they are using in the current MacBook Pro. And if they pick up this stupid nVidia for the new model, I think I'll have no other way but to choose something else. And the OMG Dell laptop from this thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/542672/ have very high chances
I think I'll have no other way but to choose something else. And the OMG Dell laptop from this thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/542672/ have very high chances
Uhhh.. that's got an nVidia GPU too.
well its had its fair share of problems if this forum is anything to go by. people have complained about the following
yellow tint on the screens
bad curvature on the lid's
crummy thermal paste application and thus high operating temps
odd behaviour of the LED backlighting (ie uneven)
bad batteries
and probably more
i guess most are non-problems brought up by pedantics and others are typical par for the course problems that can happen to anyone no matter how good Quality Assurance is.
saddly alot of these problems actually stem from apple being quick on the draw with new tech.... something people here demand because of the price of the computer.
apple were pretty much one of the first out the door with the SR platform, the 8600M chip and the LED backlighting. we got the kit we wanted, but people forget you cant always have the cake and eat it.
The 3650 can go into the new MacBook.
Any ways, I hope this problem with Nvidia video cards gets fixed.
Those people with Nvidia video cards in their Macs, what are you going to do now?
So the iMac is affected then!
Originally it was noted that the iMac's wouldn't be affected by this problem, and considering that I'm getting a 3.06 in two weeks time, this isn't good news.
I take my work home with me a fair bit and as i use Motion 3 quite a lot, i felt that the 8800GS would be better suited for my needs... Now i'm considering otherwise!
As it says in the article the G92 and G94 chips are affected. So I take it this means iMac... Unless someone can tell me for 100% that this is otherwise, Apple have just lost out on the £90.01 they would have gotten off of me for the card (a lot of money for a small power upgrade that said!).
Can someone please clarify further?
Originally it was noted that the iMac's wouldn't be affected by this problem, and considering that I'm getting a 3.06 in two weeks time, this isn't good news.
I take my work home with me a fair bit and as i use Motion 3 quite a lot, i felt that the 8800GS would be better suited for my needs... Now i'm considering otherwise!
As it says in the article the G92 and G94 chips are affected. So I take it this means iMac... Unless someone can tell me for 100% that this is otherwise, Apple have just lost out on the £90.01 they would have gotten off of me for the card (a lot of money for a small power upgrade that said!).
Can someone please clarify further?
Dudbook Pro? Having Graphics Issues
So while I'm still waiting for apple to get me a new panel for my MBP another fun issue cropped up, now I'm having permanent "tearing," of anything, screenshots attached since I can't find the proper words to describe this. All this started happening in the last ten days, it's already driving me mad.
Computer is thirteen months old (with an extended warranty), N8600GT if that means anything (probably does).
Problem doesn't seem to be related with multi-monitor use. Laptop isn't overheating (at least not the CPU).
So while I'm still waiting for apple to get me a new panel for my MBP another fun issue cropped up, now I'm having permanent "tearing," of anything, screenshots attached since I can't find the proper words to describe this. All this started happening in the last ten days, it's already driving me mad.
Computer is thirteen months old (with an extended warranty), N8600GT if that means anything (probably does).
Problem doesn't seem to be related with multi-monitor use. Laptop isn't overheating (at least not the CPU).
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You have no idea how much I've been through to get my Mac working. Ever since the third month of my first ever Macbook Pro, it's been downhill ever since.
So it's gonna be either a 24" iMac with ATI in it + a secondary 12" laptop or I could easily get one of those whoop-ass HP workstation laptops with ATI in them..
Always keep your options open..
Ha. I love how after the story comes out, then it becomes a fact that every MBP and other affected computer is doomed to a fiery end. Curious how prior to these mixed reports, there hasn't been widespread reports of the 8600 in the MBP dying despite the fact that it's been around for a while. Uh these GPU's have been in circulation for a while now..
And now even in this thread it has been called a systemic failure of the computer industry. Does anyone have any actual quantified, verified evidence, or is this more fear mongering?
And now even in this thread it has been called a systemic failure of the computer industry. Does anyone have any actual quantified, verified evidence, or is this more fear mongering?
Actually genius, I said the problem was systemic in regards to nVidia's chip line, and that I'd never heard of anything like this happening ever in any area of the computer industry.
Maybe you should read more carefully.
As for the "tearing" screenshots, the top two look like visual artifacts that result in overclocked/overheated memory, the bottom two I have no bloody idea.