That's the great thing about Time Machine.
Of course I'll take out my HDD and put back the Apple one.
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That's the great thing about Time Machine.
Of course I'll take out my HDD and put back the Apple one.
Given the nature of the fault, I'd suggest an affected GPU will fail before the end of its normal 'lifetime'. All you can do by choosing how hard to push it is determine how quickly that will happen.
The bulging capacitor debacle? When some company "borrowed" the plans for manufacturing capacitors but left some little detail out, producing tons of capacitors that couldn't be distinguished from the genuine product, except they would self destroy after a year?
the 8600 series doesn't use the affected chips. It's pretty much just the 8800 series and the 9600 that are getting screwed.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you should check out this thread in the official Apple MBP forum:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1478474&tstart=0
In a nutshell, people have been experiencing video problems (including the dreaded black screen of death) at least as far back as April. When people accessed the broken MBP's System Profile via screen sharing with a second computer, the chipset model is reported as Intel GMA X3100 instead of GeForce 8600M.
That is EXACTLY what happened to mine, my 8600m became the GMA X3100 in system profiler when my GPU died. I could VNC to the machine no problem.
Hopefully a 3670, the rough equivalent of the 9600. Or maybe we'll see a Quadro 3700FX like you predicted.
What exactly is this "bug" from what I've read it's the gpu overheating.
Uhm this happened when I had a 7600gt in a well cooled case. (no, no overclocking at all in the whole system)
If it can happen in a normal case, why couldn't it happen in a laptop?
As far as I know it's nothing new XD.
I just haven't seen any proof anywhere that it's a bug in the 8000 series.
My macbook pro is still running fine. haha.
Uhm this happened when I had a 7600gt in a well cooled case. (no, no overclocking at all in the whole system)
If it can happen in a normal case, why couldn't it happen in a laptop?
As far as I know it's nothing new XD.
I just haven't seen any proof anywhere that it's a bug in the 8000 series.
My macbook pro is still running fine. haha.
I guess nvidia, dell and HP all mentioning the problem was a bit too much for you to follow huh. It isn't like any of those companies would normally be involved in a fault with an nvidia part that found its way into Dell and HP laptops.
Glad to hear it. You do realise that the fact that you aren't having problems doesn't mean there aren't problems to be had.
Ooh yes hopefully! Won't it be fun paying 2.5 thousand dollars for a laptop with a 3670
!!!1!Let's hope they don't use the 9700M, then we'd see both huge battery life and performance increases, and we can't have that on a Mac! Oh no!
So what the hell GPU are we gonna see in the new MBPs?
Can we please not change the topic of the thread...there is already a HUGE thread on the next MBP GPU (speculation). Go discuss it there.
Ooh yes hopefully! Won't it be fun paying 2.5 thousand dollars for a laptop with a 3670
Yes well, as everyone knows, Apple has never used anything but midrange cards in their laptops.
Gooooood point. Except, oh, wait. A 9700M uses 2.25x more power than the 8600M GT, resulting in, of course, higher heat draw.
And it's also an affected nVidia part, meaning it will likely fail within one to two years, while not being all the much faster than a 3670 in he first place.
But no, your idea's good. Really. A well thought-out and knowledgeable point, thank you.
So what the hell GPU are we gonna see in the new MBPs?
Maybe the delay is the result of Apple switching from NVIDIA card to ATI cards.
It's not unheard of. It's just hidden from the consumer in many cases.
There are two hard drive vendors who supply most of the drives used in high end RAID arrays. One of the two (to remain nameless) had a massive problem with their drives that necessitated special workaround and in some cases mass replacement of drives by their customers (who are the manufacturers of these arrays).
Cars have recalls for poorly designed or poorly manufactured equipment all the time.
The McDonnell Douglas DC-10 had a horrible design issue that forced the major airlines to workaround certain maintenance processes. These shortcuts caused stress fractures allowed an entire engine to FALL OFF a jet, resulting in the largest airline crash in US history. This effectively killed off the DC-10 as a commercial passenger aircraft, and it was relegated to cargo and military uses for the rest of it's life.
So I have to disagree that design and/or sub-components have never had a really big insidious effect on a product. Happens all the time, and it sucks.
If you're optimistic:
It probably isn't. nvidia are telling the truth when they say only a few batches were affected, even if they initially claimed it was only a few that went to one vendor then had to own up to them also going to another vendor later, I'm sure they're telling the truth now. Honest.
If you're a pessimist:
You're totally knackered if your MBP has an nvidia card in it at all.
If you're a realist:
The truth probably lies somewhere between those two extremes. I'd make sure I had applecare and I'd keep an eye on the situation with regards to announcements from Apple and any recalls, and I'd make doubly sure to book the machine in for a hardware fix the moment I started noticing any graphical oddities of any kind. Then I'd try and get on with enjoying my nice laptop without either worrying too much or sticking my head in the sand
.Interesting. But I did mean on such a large scale, and given nVidia's large marketshare in... well, the market, it affects millions of computer users; I wan't necessarily talking about how relatively disastrous the effects were.
Never heard of the HDD problem. I know IBM's Deskstars used to be called Deathstars 'cause they died so often.... but that's about it