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Really switching to Intel!!??

WineHQ on Intel based Mac

First... I do not care about what is underneath the hood. I want it to run OSX and Keynote, pages, iLife and a host of other non-Microsoft products. As long as this stuff works... what do I care.

Second... if Steve thinks he can pull this off... I bet he can.

Third... What choice would you have? Switch to... Windope.

Now the good.

What would stop... say some group of GNU type... people from making a wonderful little program that will let my now x86 based Mac run WinCrap programs. And lettuce call it say WINE (http://www.winehq.org)

This solves one basic problem. The software emulation such as virtualPC would be unneded. That the MAC version has hit a wall on. And these smart folks could easily make a copy of WINE that runs on OSX-x86. WINE currently runs on FreeBSD.

This is good because... people like my wife run WINCRAP and I am the one who has to fix her WINHELL machine all of the $$*(#$@%)@)!)@#% time. This would also provide a SWITCHER a GOOD reason to switch.

I will be one of the first people in line to but a XTEL? MACTEL? OSXTEL? based Macintosh.

One other piece of good news... Apple would be able to quickly and easily make versions of iLife and such for Windopes, allowing them to make more money. This may or may not happen.

In any case I trust Steve with his baby and we will know Monday.

As one tagline says, "A computer without Windows is like chocolate cake without mustard."
 
If this were untrue would not Apple...

Would not Apple issue a quick announce saying this is not true. I know that would be out of fasion for Apple.

However, this seems to be a big enough story to make that kind of comment on.
 
Time to move to Linux

just can't handle all this instability.

after reading this i checked out a linux distribution for apple machines called Ubuntu Linux on my pb and.. wow. comes with friggin everything.

airport doesn't work but then again who cares. wireless and the rest did.

at least Linux is one thing that *will* be around for ever and everyone seems to be using it these days. shame about photoshop though... even though ppl say gimp is pretty awesome. with Linux you can move computers without moving OS.

anyway feel like i've got a broom behind me pushing me to buy more RAM for stuff like dashboard. i love OSX, but what i like by looking at Linux is that you can set it up just how you like, make it yours. hell it sure don't look so bad to me. free software stuff feels pretty nice to. community is pretty warm.
 
why would apple do this, its far too much work, they would need to recode all of the application and then there would be os x for pc which would eliminate anyone who would ever want to buy an apple computer beccause they could just put OS X on a cheaper PC. apple would never do this. it is just giving in
 
I have never even seen the CPU in my Mac, there is a big heat sink covering it. For all I know it has a P4 in there already.

Honestly, who cares what brand CPU, as long as it is grunty.
 
Value of PPC Mac

PPC Macs will NOT be worthless. You still have several years of working on them.

Look at older Macs that only run upto 9 and not very well at that. I am siting next to a PowerMac 5500/225 that works and is sort of used (mostly as a TV).

People are stil selling older Macs and even 680X0 based Macs on Ebay. That is more then 10 years, I think. Even older G3s are still selling okay. If you are worried about resale value. Sell on Tuesday.

There will be people who will keep buying and using these computers for a long time to come. Have you seen the after Newton Market? I finally switched to a Palm about a year ago after my MP2100 finally bit the dust. That was a mistake I should have switched to Palm years ago.
 
biohazard_6969 said:
why would apple do this, its far too much work, they would need to recode all of the application and then there would be os x for pc which would eliminate anyone who would ever want to buy an apple computer beccause they could just put OS X on a cheaper PC. apple would never do this. it is just giving in
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You would still have to buy Apple hardware like you do today. There would just be something different under the heat sink and you would never even know...

There would be no OS X for Dell.
 
carla-cat said:
just can't handle all this instability.

~snip~

at least Linux is one thing that *will* be around for ever and everyone seems to be using it these days. shame about photoshop though... even though ppl say gimp is pretty awesome. with Linux you can move computers without moving OS.
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First, what instability? This is a RUMOR.

You do not know how long Linux will be around. We have no clue what type of computer we will be using in 10 or 20 years. Think about the computer from 20 years ago to today.
 
minimax said:
I'm not sure if anybody mentioned this yet, but remember the Mac Mini mock-up? Perhaps it is NOT a mock-up but the real thing!!
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Ha. No way in hell. See the PS/2 ports? No way Apple would include those ancient bits when USB works much better. In fact, Apple hasn't used anything like those in YEARS. The mock-up also seems to lack a modem jack, FW400, and security slot. There's no good reason for Apple not to include those on an Intel mini. I seriously, seriously[/b] doubt that mock-up is a Mac.
 
what if there is going to be something so good, so big, that intel is trying to talk with apple so it doesnt look so bad when ibm comes out with the processor of there dreams.
jk
We will have to wait and see
 
BWhaler said:
I wonder...

if there is a ton of negotiating with IBM going on over the weekend, CEO to CEO, and Apple used C|Net to put real heat on IBM.

It would make sense to use C|Net. Slightly credible, but because they are not a friend to Apple, Jobs would have no problem screwing them over.
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While this may be true.... what will this accomplish.


Apple: Did you see the C|net Article. Oh BTW here is that rumored version of OSX on Intel.

IBM: Okay Apple please do not leave us at the hands of the much larger in demand Microsquash 360.

Apple: Provide more and better chips, esp for notebooks.

IBM: Uh, no can do, we are still haveing bad yields. We cannot make a reliable mass produced chip. And we cannot ge down to the 65nm spec. Abd we still can't make a 3Ghz chip so you still look like a moran Steve.

Apple: OKay bye bye and do not let the door hit your ass on the way out.

IBM: (Speaking on cell phone as door wacks him) Hello MicroSquish how many chips did you need... No problem... only 10X of what Apple needs... first thing Monday morning. (hangs up phone)
 
MacIke said:
First, what instability? This is a RUMOR.

You do not know how long Linux will be around. We have no clue what type of computer we will be using in 10 or 20 years. Think about the computer from 20 years ago to today.
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i don't know, it may be a rumor. no harm in checking out this Linux thing anyway. so far so good here. i'm running it dual boot anyways.

OT: i needed help installing something. went into an IRC channel and a guy helped me in 5 minutes. heh installing stuff in Linux is easy, just type in the kind of thing you want into a program called kpackage, choose from a list with descriptions and and click 'Install'. it grabs the latest from a server with thousands of progams. wow!!!

the other thing is my little 12"pb is so super fast now!! why is that? why wouldn't OSX be faster? i thought Apple would be optomizing for their own hardware. weird.

my brother tells me Tiger is a speedup though - shame it costs so much :(
 
This is GREAT news!

With 600+ posts, I don't know if someone mentioned this, but...

I believe this move will dramatically increase the demand for Apple computers. If they go with an Intel chip that can also run WinXP (and allow a dual-boot option to choose between OS X and WinXP), the corporate masses who are usually asked to choose between a Dell and HP laptop can now request an Apple laptop. This will have a huge effect on sales!

Not only that, but if the masses have both systems available on their laptop, and find that they prefer OS X (looks/acts better, crashes less, etc.), then it might lead to greater demand to support OS X within their organizations.

With a dual-boot option to support WinXP, I predict that Apple will easily double their laptop sales in 2006. If you don't have stock already, buy Apple now.
 
Intel maybe but x86?? no way!!!

No reason why not to suggest that this rumor is absolute bollocks, but should apple decide to use intel chips in their systems, that is because intel came up with a very appealing PPC chip and not that apple will switch to x86.
Everything else would just be suicidal for apple. IMHO.

At the end of the day why on earth would they want to use those crappy P4s when they can have Athlon FXs?? AMDs are the pride and joy of the pc world for a few years now.
 
or even just portables

aussie_geek said:
Maybe intel & Apple are thinking of a new processor for a new type of Mac. The story from CNET says that Apple is going to move 'low end' computers to the intel platform. A tablet Mac would be a 'low end' computer wouldn't it? ;)

The OS on a tablet Mac would not be be a fully fledged version of OSX - more of a cut down version like Windows CE. The tablet PC market is a niche market with specific software, optimized for a tablet situation.

If Apple was to make a tablet Mac, fair enough it would look better than everything else out there but what programs would be available for it at release date - none.

A tablet Mac with a modified version of the OSX GUI than can run PPC apps and the existing Windows CE programs would sell like hotcakes.


aussie_geek
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I really think that its either a new line or the laptops in general. But that would be quite weird, two different processors for one company. I dont understand why wasnt AMD doing this for Apple.. and how could Apple be a smaller competitor to Xbox, the Xbox 360 is cool and all but honestly, how many of those can you sell? With Apple's switch to ATI, you never know
I question the credibility of this article, why isnt it on the apple website? Of all things, this should be in the "Hot News Bar" thing.

cheers,
ini
 
no way around it

The reason this would make Jobs seem like he's full of crap is, check out these numbers basically saying IBM PPC is dominating anything Intel is putting out

http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/

So if this were true it really is saying "hey, about a month ago we put our new machines we want you to buy and helped convinced you bay putting up these numbers saying how much faster our Procs are compared to others (amd/Intel). But actually, we are chaning our minds and going with these companies which we have stated for years are making 'slower' procs" (and since nothing happens overnight in this buisness, we obviouslly new about this well before we were making some of these claims)

IF...IF its true, it will make jobs/apple seem like big fat liars with pants constantly on fire. The only way out is if it doesn't require major changes in software and is wayyyy faster than what we have now.


ps. I wonder how loud the boos will be if this is true and gets announced on monday
 
Passante said:
Gosh, I remember when Dovack was a columnist for MacUser (or world). He did the column on the last page of the magazine. I guess he also turned to the Dark Side. :eek:
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Left a long time ago, but I liked the Apple evangelists like Guy Kawasaki much more anyway.

He still shows up every now and then to speak at Apple events, but has his time taken up by his current company, the lecture circuit, and his books.
 
themacman said:
what if there is going to be something so good, so big, that intel is trying to talk with apple so it doesnt look so bad when ibm comes out with the processor of there dreams.
jk
We will have to wait and see
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No. Why would IBM not hint Apple if they saw signs of Intel trying to persuade them? Apple WILL not switch to intel, this is by far the dumbest thing I have heard today. Maybe Intel is just working on something as simple as a media center that is compatible with itunes/ ilife? Thats just an example, Cnet is probably partially correct, but I don't see the logic of apple leaving IBM at this point, espessially if IBM hasn't released anything HUGE for apple in a while, chances are it's going to be a big announcement that the airport express 2 is now a link between the Intel based media center and the ibm based mac. But why would apple even partner with intel for such a simple device as a media center? beats me?
 
I really question that

iPost said:
With 600+ posts, I don't know if someone mentioned this, but...

I believe this move will dramatically increase the demand for Apple computers. If they go with an Intel chip that can also run WinXP (and allow a dual-boot option to choose between OS X and WinXP), the corporate masses who are usually asked to choose between a Dell and HP laptop can now request an Apple laptop. This will have a huge effect on sales!

Not only that, but if the masses have both systems available on their laptop, and find that they prefer OS X (looks/acts better, crashes less, etc.), then it might lead to greater demand to support OS X within their organizations.

With a dual-boot option to support WinXP, I predict that Apple will easily double their laptop sales in 2006. If you don't have stock already, buy Apple now.
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As you may or may not realize, the business marketplace for PC's is closing. It is the general explanation for why Longhorn will fail, why MS Office for PC is older than MS office for MAC. Why would Apple want to participate in that for only a brief time while jeopardizing their entire business. I really like OSX but i dont believe that companies will switch. Think about it. Not only do you have to convert ALL your computers to OSX but you need a whole new IT department and alot of new software. From a business standpoint, this is not very smart. I do think that a dual boot option is also a bad idea. But Intel chips will improve the portable's sales.

CHeers,
ini
 
If True, could I get some thoughts on Buying

I apologize if this is in the wrong catagory, but I was planning a purchase that may be directly impacted if we find this rumor to be true on Monday. I have no problem holding off until Monday, but this is all so strange and curious.

I was planning on picking up an iMac G5 20" to replace my G4 450DP. If this is not the right forum just disregard... no hurt feelings at all.

I am trying to be happy about this whole thing if it is true, I'm just not sure I understand it all.

Blair, a life long non techy Mac user (1st mac - 128k complete with single sided 400k floppy copies of macwrite and macpaint.
 
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