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Really switching to Intel!!??

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I'm confused. 10.4 is tiger. Which is the 5th "major version" So what's Leapord? Is that OS XI? Or OSX 10.5 - ?
 
What does that mean? That OSX will run on ANY intel chip? Or that there will be a special MAC version only? If it's the latter why shoul dwe care? And why would hell freeze over?
 
From AppleInsider.com:

INTEL RUMORS TRUE: Jobs says there have been two major transitions for Mac: 68K to PowerPC and then Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X. Now it's time for third transition to Intel-based Macs. Developers will begin to make the transition now. While users can begin to switch next year. Apple is making the move "because we want to make the best computers for our customers."
 
StkhlmSyndrm23 said:
Well we new Steve would pull his RDF theatrics...his entire presentation has been run by an Intel-based Mac apparently. There you have it...
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I guess I still don't understand what this means? Running on a Intel chip does that mean that ANY intel machine can run OSX??? So all the WINTEL machines can now use OSX instead of windows?? :confused:
 
eVolcre said:
I guess I still don't understand what this means? Running on a Intel chip does that mean that ANY intel machine can run OSX??? So all the WINTEL machines can now use OSX instead of windows?? :confused:
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Probably not. Steve does not like to do business on someone else's terms, so I am sure that there is a hardware "something" that will keep OS X from running on a standard WinTel PC.
 
This press release about the switch was just issued by Apple and addresses our fears of things like Office for Mac going extinct. Adobe is on board as well.

Apple to Use Intel Microprocessors Beginning in 2006

6 June 2005, 1:30pm ET, PR Newswire

WWDC 2005, SAN FRANCISCO, June 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- At its Worldwide Developer Conference today, Apple(R) announced plans to deliver models of its Macintosh(R) computers using Intel(R) microprocessors by this time next year, and to transition all of its Macs to using Intel microprocessors by the end of 2007. Apple previewed a version of its critically acclaimed operating system, Mac OS(R) X Tiger, running on an Intel- based Mac(R) to the over 3,800 developers attending CEO Steve Jobs' keynote address. Apple also announced the availability of a Developer Transition Kit, consisting of an Intel-based Mac development system along with preview versions of Apple's software, which will allow developers to prepare versions of their applications which will run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs.

"Our goal is to provide our customers with the best personal computers in the world, and looking ahead Intel has the strongest processor roadmap by far," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "It's been ten years since our transition to the PowerPC, and we think Intel's technology will help us create the best personal computers for the next ten years."

"We are thrilled to have the world's most innovative personal computer company as a customer," said Paul Otellini, president and CEO of Intel. "Apple helped found the PC industry and throughout the years has been known for fresh ideas and new approaches. We look forward to providing advanced chip technologies, and to collaborating on new initiatives, to help Apple continue to deliver innovative products for years to come."

"We plan to create future versions of Microsoft Office for the Mac that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Roz Ho, general manager of Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit. "We have a strong relationship with Apple and will work closely with them to continue our long tradition of making great applications for a great platform."

"We think this is a really smart move on Apple's part and plan to create future versions of our Creative Suite for Macintosh that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Bruce Chizen, CEO of Adobe.

The Developer Transition Kit is available starting today for $999 to all Apple Developer Connection Select and Premier members. Further information for Apple Developer Connection members is available at developer.apple.com. Intel plans to provide industry leading development tools support for Apple later this year, including the Intel C/C++ Compiler for Apple, Intel Fortran Compiler for Apple, Intel Math Kernel Libraries for Apple and Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for Apple.

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emaja said:
Probably not. Steve does not like to do business on someone else's terms, so I am sure that there is a hardware "something" that will keep OS X from running on a standard WinTel PC.
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So why is this having such a dramatic effect on Mac people? I mean, all thats changing is a chip inside right? Why does it matter os much? MACS will still be "exclusive" and OSX will still only run on 'MACS' right?
 
Did anyone else catch that Leopard is going to debut at the same time as Longhorn (potentially before given Microsofts problems)...that is very big news. New version of Xcode available today, too. Get ready.
 
StkhlmSyndrm23 said:
Did anyone else catch that Leopard is going to debut at the same time as Longhorn (potentially before given Microsofts problems)...that is very big news. New version of Xcode available today, too. Get ready.
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So what does that mean or signify? sorry for all the dumb questions but I'm just a sales guy, need you techies to explain things to me in "big animal pictures" :)

(btw i was a IBM salesperson for 7 years and gave my final two presentation on my powerbook. hehehe)
 
eVolcre said:
So why is this having such a dramatic effect on Mac people? I mean, all thats changing is a chip inside right? Why does it matter os much? MACS will still be "exclusive" and OSX will still only run on 'MACS' right?
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I don't understand it either. Mac work. Windows PCs need much more effort to work well.

Mac OS is superior to Windows, and if it runs on the same CPU, it will only show MS in a worse light than they are in now.


It seems like Jobs really wants to stick it to MS. I hope he is right on this.
 
Don't bet on it if it's Intel-x86. Just as people have hacked the Xbox to run normal Windows, they will get Mac OS X running on normal x86 PCs
 
I mean, it's dramatic if he said that OSX would run on all "windows machines" but it seems like to run OSX you still have to buy a "MAC" except it has a x86 chip inside right? Or am i missing something?
 
engadget

10:46am PDT - Demo: MS Word PowerPC binary on Intel. Excel spreadsheet. They’re no notably slower than usual. Photoshop still takes forever to load, but all the plugins work.
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Woah, you can run windows on an XBOX? what ever for? so you can use the XBOX as a personal computer?
 
10:49am PDT - Select and premier ADC member software developers will be getting a build kit.

10:50am PDT - Roz Ho, General Manager of Microsoft’s Macintosh Business Unit, is onstage to talk about what MS is doing for the Intel platform.
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Hey is anyone even reading these updates or should I stop posting them?

Some bug guns up there, Apple, Intel, MS
 
"The Mac OS X for Intel Develpoer Kit includes a 3.6GHz Pentium 4 and OS X 10.4.1 for Intel (preview release). Order today; ships in two weeks."

Woohoo! Steve finally shipped his 3GHz Mac!
 
[1:47 PM] He's demonstrating it with Quicken, Excel, Photoshop. All of these apps, compiled for PPC, worked fine on the Intel Mac demonstration, It was a completely transparent process. - posted by Dave
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That is VERY interesting. If they have Excel running that doesn't mean that it has to be that complicated. Also it means they let MS know early about this. Why would you want to do that? I guess it’s a double-edged sword. Don't tell them and risk getting people to freak out about office or do tell them and give them a chance to get their *** in gear with Longhorn but in that case the dice are already rolled. They probably can't speed up Longhorn development any faster then what they already are at.
 
10:56am PDT - Paul Otellini, President & CEO of Intel, is on. “I suspect there’s a whole bunch of you who never thought you’d see that [Intel] logo on this stage. I was one of them.”
 
This is really one of the best decisions Apple has ever made. The only negative is that these computers aren't available for purchase now. After hearing reassurances from Microsoft and Adobe that they will support both architectures, I feel convinced that this is a great move.
 
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