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joshuawaire said:
CNBC's analysts are reporting this morning that it's Freescale (Motorola) that Apple is ditching and not IBM.
That may not mean too much. The story so far includes the tidbit that lower end machines would be switched first, and that means Freescale first.
 
shompa said:
the 3.7ghz Xeon has 37 stages in its pipe.
The g5 has 17 stages.

The FSB in Xeon is quad pumped 1066 mhz. That is 266 i real life.
The FSB in G5 is real 1.25ghz

Have you used a Xeon?
Try to do some mpeg2 work, and you will know what I mean.

You're correct. However, like MPEG2/MPEG4 can easily be offset with a extra MPEG chipset (cheap and dedicated), which will be much more efficient. And I don't see this CPU replace the top end G5. And, based on all the reports, neither sees Apple it that way. But it could be the start for phasing out Freescale. And it for sure beat that processor.....
 
sorry if this has already been said but...

well my lecturer has a fantastic theory.


Apple is rumored to be dropping IBM and the PPC just before the keynote.

Apple really announce they have bought/will be buying Freescale. this gets IBM all worried so they start paying more attention to Apple. and its a major happy time when people think steve is going to announce the end of OSX on the PPC but infact shouts from the rooftops the complete opposite. and then we love Apple more. and we see faster chips appearing.

i honestly cant see this whole X86 thing happening.
 
joshuawaire said:
CNBC's analysts are reporting this morning that it's Freescale (Motorola) that Apple is ditching and not IBM.

We will see in a few hours! ;)

Doofy suggested this idea yesterday. What if Apple is using high-powered Intel chips to emulate better G4's? Yeah, it's a stretch, but not impossible. I'd support it. :D
 
Billy Boo Bob said:
How many times do people have to say it... Just because they're talking about Intel doesn't mean X86.

Or to look at it more creativly, it doesn't mean that they will ditch PPC acrhitecture regardless of what chip they use as a CPU. Chips are powerful enough right now that they could run the OS and all the apps on a virtual PPC CPU. The actual architecture of the CPU being used isn't all that important in this situation. This could be done right now with lower end machines and laptops. In a couple of years, the performance of CPUs across the board will be high enough that even "power users" will be OK with it. The advantage of this is that Apple could then pick chips from whatever company offered them the best deal. Why have your OS tied to any particular physical chip at all?

Isaac
 
Fasct : IBM has dropped the ball again and again
Fact : Both Intel and MSFT looks at Apple with respect and envy.

- Apple is an unbridled innovator
- OS X is seen as clearly advanced
- Its product design and user focus are admired


Intel is about to gain a major jewel in its crown !

MSFT will not be happy with this deal !

Apple now has an unlimited supply of evolving chips every year for desktop - laptop - servers - work stations.


ENGAGE ALL STABILIZERS !!! BRACE FOR TURBULENCE !!!! BEAM DOWN THE MARKETING PARTY !!!
 
I think a move to x86 or whatever it could be, will take the dignity form OS X.
Some may argue that its good that we will have the latest hardware etc.
But I think Apple will lose out as OS X will lose its exclusitivity, because if Apple are going to sell x86 computers then surely won't people who build their own PC's be able to put OS X on their home builds? Making OS X thouroughly pirated like Windows XP.
Also, I doubt the transition will be smooth and probably it will be terribly slow, and worse than the transition from OS 9 to X.
OS X will also quickly becomed riddled with viruses, malware, spyware etc...

All in all the exclustivity of buying Apple will be gone. And there may be two terrible operating systems, I dread to think of it.

However, I think this will be a good move to Intel, if we get good chips which are not x86 and therefore not compatible with homebuild computers etc.
If this is the case, this could mean the coming of faster Macs, and possibly more market share.
 
bokdol said:
so does this mean the end of the dual core freescale (G4) chips?
Lets hope so because they have for the most part had No progress in years. Just aint interested in computers they want to make chips for toaster ovens and cars :rolleyes: I hope Steve puts that whole Boot up their........
 
gangst said:
I think a move to x86 or whatever it could be, will take the dignity form OS X.
Some may argue that its good that we will have the latest hardware etc.
But I think Apple will lose out as OS X will lose its exclusitivity, because if Apple are going to sell x86 computers then surely won't people who build their own PC's be able to put OS X on their home builds? Making OS X thouroughly pirated like Windows XP.
Also, I doubt the transition will be smooth and probably it will be terribly slow, and worse than the transition from OS 9 to X.
OS X will also quickly becomed riddled with viruses, malware, spyware etc...

All in all the exclustivity of buying Apple will be gone. And there may be two terrible operating systems, I dread to think of it.

However, I think this will be a good move to Intel, if we get good chips which are not x86 and therefore not compatible with homebuild computers etc.
If this is the case, this could mean the coming of faster Macs, and possibly more market share.


Dignity? Give me an effing break. This is a computer we're talking about, not your honor... Seriously, people that are against this move have way too much of themselves invested in their computer. I'll say it again, IT"S ONLY A CPU! Get over it, as long as the OS is the same and the Apps are the same, who cares what kind of chip will be used? In addition, all the nasty things like malware, viruses, etc are WINDWOS problems, NOT x86 problems. In addition, why do you think that Steve will open up to home builders? I can go out and buy G4 and G3 processors right now, how many people are building their own macs? Talk about FUD, this post takes the cake...

Isaac
 
isaacc7 said:
Dignity? Give me an effing break. This is a computer we're talking about, not your honor... Seriously, people that are against this move have way too much of themselves invested in their computer. I'll say it again, IT"S ONLY A CPU! Get over it, as long as the OS is the same and the Apps are the same, who cares what kind of chip will be used? In addition, all the nasty things like malware, viruses, etc are WINDWOS problems, NOT x86 problems. In addition, why do you think that Steve will open up to home builders? I can go out and buy G4 and G3 processors right now, how many people are building their own macs? Talk about FUD, this post takes the cake...

Isaac


Well said - if your computer system is your identity - you've got some reality issues. And if your computer system AND your CPU are your identity .... its time to check into rehab.


Get a grip --- and hold on BTW I see a few bumps ahead
:D :D :D :eek:
 
gangst said:
I think a move to x86 or whatever it could be, will take the dignity form OS X.
Some may argue that its good that we will have the latest hardware etc.
But I think Apple will lose out as OS X will lose its exclusitivity, because if Apple are going to sell x86 computers then surely won't people who build their own PC's be able to put OS X on their home builds? Making OS X thouroughly pirated like Windows XP.
Also, I doubt the transition will be smooth and probably it will be terribly slow, and worse than the transition from OS 9 to X.
OS X will also quickly becomed riddled with viruses, malware, spyware etc...

All in all the exclustivity of buying Apple will be gone. And there may be two terrible operating systems, I dread to think of it.

However, I think this will be a good move to Intel, if we get good chips which are not x86 and therefore not compatible with homebuild computers etc.
If this is the case, this could mean the coming of faster Macs, and possibly more market share.


:rolleyes:

How many times does this need to be explained.

1)If Apple still makes their motherboards as they have so far and they have their own chipset, you cannot just build a MacTel. It's very simple.
2) Viruses and spyware ARE SOFTWARE DEPENDENT. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHIPS USED.

We should all inform ourselves just a little before we freak out. And the keynote is in just a few minutes. We'll be much better informed then. In the meantime lets not drown in a glass of water.
 
i can see this being a threat from mr jobs if ibm don't get their collective arses in gear with powering up the G5s and getting them into PBs, but i think, i HOPE, it's an empty threat.
 
Is this the thread where we're discussing the events as trhey're happening? i cant load the IRC thing from work but have the live feed on. Is there another thread I should be looking at or is this the one? whats the poplar opinion?
 
Billy Boo Bob said:
How many times do people have to say it... Just because they're talking about Intel doesn't mean X86.


Why do I get the impression that even if Steve does announce it you are still going to have people saying its a smoke screen until the day x86 Macs show up at the Apple store and even then....
 
SiliconAddict said:
10:12 am steve wearing all black
10:05 am Steve takes the stage
9:59 am *music playing*
9:46 am testing 1234
9:43 am Doors to hall are open
People beginning to take seats
5:33 pm steve wearing all black
5:33 pm 109 stores worldwide



HOLLY CRAP! Steve's RDF is on overdrive!!! :eek:

RDF?
 
broken_keyboard said:
I think the live site may be broken...

Yah. Its gone. I hope MR's has a backup because there are going to be A LOT of pissed off people. My theory is that Steve's RDF filtered back across the wire and took out the server. MacRumor’s firewall is no match for Steve’s Reality Distortion Field.
 
Leopard

Apple's next major operating system release will be called Leopard, said Jobs. "We're not going to be focusing on it today, but we intend to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007, right about the time Microsoft expects to release Longhorn," he said.

The rumors are true: Intel will be inside
 
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