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Recap: macOS Sierra Launch Day

Mr Fusion said:
What a great way to release a new Mac operating system... With no new Macs.
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Did you hear my theory? They're working on their own chips for the macs. They're kicking ass on mobile, so why not bring that same technology to the ol' workhorse. I mean, they must have some kind of chip group hidden in that new donut of theirs, so why not make desktop-class chips for macs.

It would excuse the delay. No computer in my house is faster than my iphone7 apparently, and that's rather ridiculous.
 
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I don't have a Siri device. Why is it that siri on my mac, in a quite room, often doesn't get what I'm asking the first time and My Amazon echo hears me across the room while sitting on the speaker that music is coming out of?
 
The Evaluator said:
My Mac Pro is 8 years old, but I have put almost as much money into the machine as it originally cost. This arbitrary cut-off by Apple is complete ********.
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Put another way: You could've bought a new one (better, and cheaper) for the amount of money you spent upgrading the original one. Upgrading PC's is never cost effective, and on Macs it's even worse.
 
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mainstreetmark said:
Did you hear my theory? They're working on their own chips for the macs. They're kicking ass on mobile, so why not bring that same technology to the ol' workhorse. I mean, they must have some kind of chip group hidden in that new donut of theirs, so why not make desktop-class chips for macs.

It would excuse the delay. No computer in my house is faster than my iphone7 apparently, and that's rather ridiculous.
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Switching to ARM for the Macs probably won't end well.

No, what's likely going to happen is that Macs will end up being updated less and less often, as they'd rather you bought an iPad. It wouldn't surprise me if the iPads eventually got a version of Xcode so that you wouldn't even need a Mac anymore for iOS app development.
 
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TheSuperE said:
AWESOME... Its not available for install on my Mac, so officially my Macbook Pro from Mid 2009 with new solid state HD and 8GB of ram is not-good enough.... So no more updates for me I guess. What a crock of SHIZZ
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I feel your pain, mines a 2008 MBP, using my wife's 2015 MBA 13" which just FLIES with this new OS, if the 15" MBA materializes, I'M IN
 
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So finally we have a new Mac OS, seems they realised the move to OS X was a mistake after all :D

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Daniel Gagner said:
I don't have a Siri device. Why is it that siri on my mac, in a quite room, often doesn't get what I'm asking the first time and My Amazon echo hears me across the room while sitting on the speaker that music is coming out of?
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Your Mac device doesn't have the sophisticated microphone array that Echo does. When your Mac was built, the mic was primarily designed to be used in video chatting etc. where the thing listening was another human being, not a computer that's trying to learn the nuances of your speech. Even if you're in quiet room, your sound may be echoing off a table and reverberating into the mic, making it hard for the software to understand.

Siri on a phone will work better than earlier Mac devices because phones are designed with noise (like extraneous sounds) in mind so that the phone and the person on the other side can hear you better.

In short it's not because Siri sucks (I mean she's not great, but in this case that's not the problem), it's because the HARDWARE hasn't been designed to properly relay clear audio to your Mac.
 
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Shadar said:
Your computer is more than 7 years old, dude. I mean, come on.
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Except, what is his hardware actually missing that could possibly matter? With an SSD, his 2009 computer is far better suited to run macOS than a brand new iMac from the Apple Store. And I mean that very literally. Because they still default to spinning disks, and OSX post-Lion is a slow piece of garbage on any computer not running SSD.
 
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mainstreetmark said:
Did you hear my theory? They're working on their own chips for the macs. They're kicking ass on mobile, so why not bring that same technology to the ol' workhorse. I mean, they must have some kind of chip group hidden in that new donut of theirs, so why not make desktop-class chips for macs.

It would excuse the delay. No computer in my house is faster than my iphone7 apparently, and that's rather ridiculous.
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  1. I'm not sure how you can own that theory, when it's been floating around for nearly 3 years now
  2. Bringing "that technology" would mean bringing ARM to the desktop, which would mean a monumental shift in software coding, and at the very least on the fly (like Rosetta did during G5 to Intel) decoding of x86 instructions to ARM
  3. Working on a new chip would not excuse failing to upgrade to new Intel chips that literally every other computer maker has, considering the chips are drop in compatible for the most part
  4. Your iPhone 7 is faster on a benchmark, but running a benchmark and running an operating system like MacOS is surprisingly very different. I bet a traditional x86 chip would still get better performance when doing the latter.
 
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Tried to download/upgrade.

After it downloaded, when I try to install, its giving the "This copy of the Install macOS Sierra application is damaged, and can't be used to install macOS."

Anyone else facing similar issues??
 
It never fails... Every OSX upgrade I do is clunky and something happens. Every single time

And, the two-step authentication process is really screwed up. Somebody needs to map out better this whole process and UI screens
 
ToM7 said:
I'm still on El Capitan 10.11.6 and still there's nothing on my mac app store
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The screenshot you posted is the Updates screen, not the App Store. Open the App Store home page (click on "Featured" tab) and then you'll find the link to download Sierra.
 
Yeah, no ... I've got a late-2012 iMac that lost some of it's lustre with the move to El Capitan so probably won't be going to Sierra.
 
I'm stoked for Siri on Mac! I got a 27inch Desktop and often use it to watch TV shows and Movies at a distance. I have a magic trackpad or whatever they are called near me so I don't have to get up for the computer, but my eyes suck eggs and anything smaller than an Aussie 50cent piece and I'm rooted. So I'm hoping that this Siri business on Mac works well because I'll be making it work like a mongrel.
 
I want to install. But my HDD is failing I think. The last two updates I tried to install caused the grey/white screen of death. I had to restore from time machine backup both times.

Any ideas?
 
CharlieBrandt09 said:
I want to install. But my HDD is failing I think. The last two updates I tried to install caused the grey/white screen of death. I had to restore from time machine backup both times.

Any ideas?
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Step 1: backup your current computer's image (using Time Machine, or 3rd party)
Step 2: Clone to a new hard drive, and then switch out new hard drive into the computer
Step 3: upgrade OS while on the new drive
Step 4: if successful in upgrade, backup new install/image (to whatever you used in Step 1)
 
usamaah said:
  1. I'm not sure how you can own that theory, when it's been floating around for nearly 3 years now
  2. Bringing "that technology" would mean bringing ARM to the desktop, which would mean a monumental shift in software coding, and at the very least on the fly (like Rosetta did during G5 to Intel) decoding of x86 instructions to ARM
  3. Working on a new chip would not excuse failing to upgrade to new Intel chips that literally every other computer maker has, considering the chips are drop in compatible for the most part
  4. Your iPhone 7 is faster on a benchmark, but running a benchmark and running an operating system like MacOS is surprisingly very different. I bet a traditional x86 chip would still get better performance when doing the latter.
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1. I know.
2. I know.
3. I know.
4. I know.
 
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45 mins and I still can't figure out how to turn no the "Use Apple Watch to Unlock" mac. Endless loops

What a mess. Horrible on-boarding in this upgrade
 
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