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Recapping Rumors About Under-Screen Face ID and Touch ID on Future iPhones
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I get the sarcasm but I don’t understand your use of the word innovating. How is a hole punch selfie camera or less accurate fingerprint scanner innovative?
FaceID is a feature of the true depth sensor camera and NOT the reason for it.
You may not care about FaceID, but how about portrait selfie photos, AR features and apps like Memoji and Warby Parker glasses, and even features like AppleTV calibration?
You’re on point. For the iPad, I totally understand that the most case are are ‘open faced’, but with iPhones, they tend to be enclosed with coverings over the buttons. Given Apples trajectory, the only way I see them implementing touch ID, is under the display at some point as an alternative, but Face ID is not something that was a short term investment, and Apple made that clear with the investment into security when they announced it with the iPhone X.
I think his sarcasm is for the word “innovative”, because it’s not at all. 😉
Actually, in 2025, Apple is going to unlock phones based on your scent and heartbeat. It will rely on your scent, but will use your heartbeat as a backup in case you fart
Apple's iPhone Unit Sales hit a wall years ago.
Now, their ONLY viable option to expand their market base is to move downstream.
A 5.5"-6.1" iPhone SE Plus has, IMO, the best potential to do so.
And, if I was calling the shots, I'd give it a traditional Home / TouchID button !
Doing so would, IMO, become the catalyst for many who haven't upgraded in years to do so !
In other words, it addresses two markets, Newbies & Reluctant Upgraders.
Now, their ONLY viable option to expand their market base is to move downstream.
A 5.5"-6.1" iPhone SE Plus has, IMO, the best potential to do so.
And, if I was calling the shots, I'd give it a traditional Home / TouchID button !
Doing so would, IMO, become the catalyst for many who haven't upgraded in years to do so !
In other words, it addresses two markets, Newbies & Reluctant Upgraders.
I really hope they are prototyping a model with both Face and Touch ID.
Unfortunately, this isn’t Apple’s style. Usually, they pick a solution for a product and go full on, 100%.
The more likely scenario is that they are prototyping both and will decide at a later date which makes it into full production.
Unfortunately, this isn’t Apple’s style. Usually, they pick a solution for a product and go full on, 100%.
The more likely scenario is that they are prototyping both and will decide at a later date which makes it into full production.
I think Apple couldn’t care less about market share. It’s always been a profit-driven company and always been happy to skip the lower end of the market. Hence the focus on raising prices and cashing in on revenue from the “Pro” line of iPhones.
For that reason, I think the SE is living on a constantly slippery slope of being mothballed and Apple just going back to selling older models as their “lower price” options. I hope I’m wrong, as I think the SE allows for experimentation and good value for most casual users.
But your not calling the shots at Apple, which is awesome for their shareholders.
Lol whats the point of having two punch holes. It is not like the space between them will be usable. Just leave the notch until you're ready to put anything under the screen.
Amen to that.
I’ve started trying to remember the watch works without needing a passcode.
Under display FaceID: probably won't happen. We already see the "progress" of the tech in the Galaxy Z Fold 3, and that's just for a simple front facing camera. It's not ready. A more complex set of sensors and cameras like FaceID would probably not work.
Under display TouchID: we know there are 2 techs for this currently. Optical and ultrasonic. Both are still not as fast/reliable as capacitive sensor. They are getting better, but I still have more false scans on my S21 than on my iPhone 7+. Capacitive is still the gold standard, and I don't think Apple can claim the same "touchID" brand on something that is not as good.
TouchID on power button: Obviously Apple already did it for the iPads, so it's not unconceivable to do it on the iPhone. The challenge would be maintaining IP68 with the additional things on the moveable power button. Definitely doable though, although it feels more of a step back on iPhones as they moved to solid state TouchID with the iPhone 7. Using the power button as TouchID would feel like a regression, going back to a physical button.
And then there's the software/OS issue. I have a feeling that iOS cannot support more than one biometric, yet, simply because there's never a need for more than one. It had always been just TouchID, then just FaceID. With the secure enclave being involved, I have a feeling it's not as simple as people thought for Apple to add a second biometric into an iPhone. FaceID transition was very smooth as pretty much anything that requires TouchID/biometric will go to FaceID. It's one to one. Having two biometrics would create complications for the OS and also app developers who relied on biometric authentications.
TL;DR imo dual biometrics won't happen, unless Apple explicitly introduced that support in the iOS in WWDC to let developers be prepared. We are at year 3 of the pandemic, and sales of iPhones with FaceID is not slowing down. Besides, it encourages people to buy Apple Watches. Given the choices, Apple will side with more money.
Under display TouchID: we know there are 2 techs for this currently. Optical and ultrasonic. Both are still not as fast/reliable as capacitive sensor. They are getting better, but I still have more false scans on my S21 than on my iPhone 7+. Capacitive is still the gold standard, and I don't think Apple can claim the same "touchID" brand on something that is not as good.
TouchID on power button: Obviously Apple already did it for the iPads, so it's not unconceivable to do it on the iPhone. The challenge would be maintaining IP68 with the additional things on the moveable power button. Definitely doable though, although it feels more of a step back on iPhones as they moved to solid state TouchID with the iPhone 7. Using the power button as TouchID would feel like a regression, going back to a physical button.
And then there's the software/OS issue. I have a feeling that iOS cannot support more than one biometric, yet, simply because there's never a need for more than one. It had always been just TouchID, then just FaceID. With the secure enclave being involved, I have a feeling it's not as simple as people thought for Apple to add a second biometric into an iPhone. FaceID transition was very smooth as pretty much anything that requires TouchID/biometric will go to FaceID. It's one to one. Having two biometrics would create complications for the OS and also app developers who relied on biometric authentications.
TL;DR imo dual biometrics won't happen, unless Apple explicitly introduced that support in the iOS in WWDC to let developers be prepared. We are at year 3 of the pandemic, and sales of iPhones with FaceID is not slowing down. Besides, it encourages people to buy Apple Watches. Given the choices, Apple will side with more money.
I keep a case on my iPad you need to protect your investment ?
Apple tends to recycle some of its trend and product design. We never thought Apple would be back with sharp, boxy design from iPhone 4, yet iPhone 12 happened. Same thing with colorful M1 iMac since G3, and the return of Magsafe 3 on Macbook Pro after years of sticking exclusively with USB-C.
So it's not totally impossible that Apple would go back with the old, trusty TouchID, and dump FaceID again.
They might as well keep shrinking the notch then.
After the reduction in notch size last year I cant see Apple bothering to change that again this year. For ones its expensive to keep redesigning things and they found a way to reduce size and cost I bet, with the smaller notch. This year will see a ton of rumours like last year that wont happen, I think iPhones are now a one off buy for most people for a good few years, you get nothing really that much better over the last model these days and saying "the latest and greatest" is pointless when you can't even tell the CPU improvements over the last three generations any more as they are all so fast.
I bet this year willl be the third year of this design and tiny improvements will drip down but not enought to warrant yearly hardware updates, its been like that for a while now anyway unless you have the cash to thow at it, or you can sell your old one in pristine condition towards the new one. Phones in general have hit a wall, until something truly innovative happens most people who buy phones wont give a damn about a notch or a punch hole, thats for places like MacRumours where people examine new phones with microscopes looking for imperfections! Whereas in the real world people just use the things as a tool and make them last as long as they can.
I bet this year willl be the third year of this design and tiny improvements will drip down but not enought to warrant yearly hardware updates, its been like that for a while now anyway unless you have the cash to thow at it, or you can sell your old one in pristine condition towards the new one. Phones in general have hit a wall, until something truly innovative happens most people who buy phones wont give a damn about a notch or a punch hole, thats for places like MacRumours where people examine new phones with microscopes looking for imperfections! Whereas in the real world people just use the things as a tool and make them last as long as they can.
