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Recapping Rumors About Under-Screen Face ID and Touch ID on Future iPhones
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I still don’t see how having a Touch ID sensor in the current power button would be inconvenient. If you are RH you use your thumb; if you are LH your index finger.
Even though Face ID is far superior to Touch ID you still need to double-tap the power button to access wallet or confirm a download. How is this any different really to scanning a fingerprint?
One more time. You can double-tap a button in a case. You can’t scan a print on that same button inside a case. If you make a cutout for that button, that becomes unwieldy or the case is too thin to provide much protection.
It doesn’t matter that you don’t understand the ergonomics involved. You just don’t. Unfortunately, my handicap makes me painfully aware of them. I’m sure that Apple does understand and it’s one of many reasons that it won’t happen.
Time to move on. Please don’t bother replying—it’s a waste of your time. Ignoring and unwatching this thread so that it won’t be a waste of mine.
and maybe you won’t see this but I can only assume you have no experience with phones outside the Apple ecosystem.
My work phone is an Xperia 10 iii and not only does the narrower profile and thick case provide excellent protection and better ergonomics but the power button fingerprint sensor is *never* a barrier to using the phone, left or right handed. I own this phone. I have had Xperia devices in the past along the same lines. I use this method every day. It’s not a problem.
You’ve not really provided enough information to provide a cohesive arguement. I appreciate that FaceID probably makes using your iPhone a lot easier but without coming back with an IRL experience you cannot possibly comment on the design of it.
To whit I do not drive and am therefore not on car forums pointing out the benefits of one automobile over another simply because I do not have any experience of using them on a daily basis.
PeterDTown
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I have an Apple Watch, and there are still plenty of scenarios where FaceID is necessary, and I’m just over it.
I wonder how Apple feels about consumers like me? I’m invested in the whole ecosystem, and I can afford to purchase upgrades, but I’m still rolling with an XS Max. Based on the rumours, I’ll probably stick with this phone for at least a few more years too. It still works perfectly and it’s in great condition, and Apple has dug their heels in on any features that would convince me to upgrade.
I don’t think that usb-c and TouchID are really too much to ask for. Pretty basic actually.
By arguing what Apple can do, you are completely missing the point. Between known prototypes and competitors, they certainly know what is possible.
My argument is what Apple won’t do and why. The only way I am wrong is if Apple does what you state. They haven’t And your arguments do not change that.
Otherwise, I am right. Nobody’s angry emoji changes this.
Design 101: A competitor that has a working model of what we are trying to achieve = what we are trying to achieve.
(I mean it takes a special someone to take 1 month to come up with an 'I am right, nyer nyer nyer' comeback but whatever. Be at piece my man.)
Apple has 6 different underscreen Touch ID patents in the last 3 or 4 years. The technology is there, the patents are there. However looks like Apple does not want to do it. IF apple was going to do it they wouldn’t have come up with Face ID while wearing a mask or an Apple Watch unlock feature
As much as I would like to see this my hopes are shrinking
As much as I would like to see this my hopes are shrinking
Tagbert
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This is not something that you develop in such a short period of time. There are a lot of compromises that result from putting the emitters and sensors behind the screen. I think it is encouraging to hear that they are still working on it.
On the Android phones I have used with under display fingerprint sensors they work really well unless your hands are greasy.
One huge advantage of having a front-facing fingerprint sensor is that you can easily unlock the phone whilst it is flat on a desk or table. Side scanners need a grip to open and FaceID requires a direct gaze. If your phone is to the side of your computer you are now perpendicular to it and so you need to pick it up.