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I am looking to see a single core 64-bit G3 score avg in the 2800 range or I am going to cancel my BTO with Apple. I don't see the value of even offering this, but holding judgement until there are good dozen samples to evaluate. Disappointing news on the 1.3.thus far. On the upside, the 1.1 has done very well with everything I thrown at it in the real world and performs very well overall.

I seriously doubt you'll get single core scores much higher than the 1.2. From what we've seen so far, the multicore scores are the ones that have a larger difference while the single core scores are pretty much the same between 1.1 and 1.2. I don't expect much difference in 1.3.
 
yeah.. that is my dilemma though. even if 1.3 isn't much better than 1.2 which isn't much better than 1.1, there maybe a significant or noticeable difference between 1.1 and 1.3, esp in heat management or in opening photoshop (for instance).



read/write speeds are probably a little better in the 512 vs 256, so maybe I should go with the larger 512 even though I probably won't ever come close to using all that space.



My 1.3/256 isn't coming for at least a couple more weeks, so I hope that there are some comparisons made out there from people who have 1.1 and 1.3, or that there are some reviews of the 1.3 from websites I trust.



I have heard the 1.2GHz produces less heat so that is the one I will get if I cancel my 1.3GHz BTO.



I hate to think that I could be enjoying a new rMB now when I am waiting a long time to get a 1.3GHz that costs me more, generates more heat, and has lower Geekbench scores.


I am with you guys. I have got a few more weeks as well to try and compile some information before making a decision, I don't want to jump to any quick conclusions based on a handful of results. We will probably get a bigger picture later next week. What is killing me, if I do decide to cancel the 1.3- why could there not have been a 1.2/256 for 1399?! They are evil geniuses over there at Cupertino...
 
My 64 Bit GB3 Score 1.2 512

Geekbench Score
2446
Single-Core Score
5161
Multi-Core Score

Slightly slower than my 2014 i5 11" Air

Update: Ran GB3 with nothing else running, previously had Firefox and Duet as primary users.
Activity monitor was running during test.

Single = 2641
Dual = 5344

Equaled 2014 11" MB i5 1.4
 
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I just posted a test damn near identical to the 1.3 on my 1.1.....Not seeing 200ms difference as making any difference in vale to this great little notebook. Not holding my breath to see much better either as samples are collected next week. Maybe I will be wrong or I got a really nice 1.1 chip?
 

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I just posted a test damn near identical to the 1.3 on my 1.1.....Not seeing 200ms difference as making any difference in vale to this great little notebook. Not holding my breath to see much better either as samples are collected next week. Maybe I will be wrong or I got a really nice 1.1 chip?

Single core isn't much better but the multi core is pretty significant.

I don't understand how OP is the only person that has a 1.3. If he has one then others must have them too. There must be more than this to compare to.
 
Single core isn't much better but the multi core is pretty significant.

I don't understand how OP is the only person that has a 1.3. If he has one then others must have them too. There must be more than this to compare to.

I am more of a software guy than hardware, so in the one test we have seen (and I agree there should be other 1.3's being burned in not just 1) do you think that the multi-core score posted indicates the value in the 1.3? More is always better I get that, but is the difference significant enough to provide a real world value in performance? I just want to get all I can from what I settle with because I tend to run em for 2 hard and solid years before I get the next one...

The 1.1 has given me no issues at all in its first week as a work machine. None. Nada. Runs fine, no noticeable lag or easy identifiable loss in performance from changing over from my 2013 i5 rMBP...
 
I just posted a test damn near identical to the 1.3 on my 1.1.....Not seeing 200ms difference as making any difference in vale to this great little notebook. Not holding my breath to see much better either as samples are collected next week. Maybe I will be wrong or I got a really nice 1.1 chip?

I really don't understand people on this forum... Your score is very much in line with the AVERAGE GB3 64 bit multi core score of 4527.

1.2 scores are 10% better at 4990.

If you look at the CORRECT scores that are comparable, the 1.1 and 1.2 are equal on the single core and 10 difference on multi core.

I suspect (and we have seen so far with ONLY a single read) that 1.3 will be similar single core and 10% better multicore.
 
I really don't understand people on this forum... Your score is very much in line with the AVERAGE GB3 64 bit multi core score of 4527.

1.2 scores are 10% better at 4990.

If you look at the CORRECT scores that are comparable, the 1.1 and 1.2 are equal on the single core and 10 difference on multi core.

I suspect (and we have seen so far with ONLY a single read) that 1.3 will be similar single core and 10% better multicore.

Thanks for clarifying this, as I stated, I am software guy, hardware just facilitates my work. So, if I am understanding you clearly, we should expect to see similar single core scores across all (1.1/1.2/1.3) and the variance per overclock speed bump of 10% in multi-core perf. In terms of real world system use, may I inquire as to how significant the multi-core performance increases are in use?
 
do you think that the multi-core score posted indicates the value in the 1.3? More is always better I get that, but is the difference significant enough to provide a real world value in performance? I just want to get all I can from what I settle with because I tend to run em for 2 hard and solid years before I get the next one...

We'll I'll give you a few answers.

First it really depends on what you use the machine for. The multicore is better, but that isn't going to make any difference to you if the software you run doesn't take advantage of it. Which depends on how it's written. If you're not using software written to take advantage of the multiple cores, you won't see much difference.

The other thing I'll say, is if you keep your machines a while, it's probably to your advantage to go all in and get the best one. Also I would second this if it's a primary machine. If it's secondary, and you want to save a few bucks, then maybe 1.2 is a better choice. But if it comes down to money for this machine, I would pick the larger HDD over the clock speed, because the larger hdd tend to read/write faster. Probably more noticeable improvement in that case.

For me personally, I'm highly interested in this score, and have been waiting for it before ordering because, I do graphics/video/photography work. Now I would never recommend this machine for graphics work, for me it will be secondary (I have a retina MBP for this), but on the off chance I ever have to do something minor on it (which happens in my line of work), I want to know it can handle it. I also deal with large file sizes. So in my case every little bit helps. If the 1.2 and 1.3 were largely on par with one another, I would save the time and the money and get the 1.2. However given some of the scores on Geekbench for the 1.2 I'm inclined to believe they are not. There are some pretty high scores on there for that one and what's posted here for that 1.3 doesn't seem right, which is why i'd like to see some more scores from other people.
 
Thanks for clarifying this, as I stated, I am software guy, hardware just facilitates my work. So, if I am understanding you clearly, we should expect to see similar single core scores across all (1.1/1.2/1.3) and the variance per overclock speed bump of 10% in multi-core perf. In terms of real world system use, may I inquire as to how significant the multi-core performance increases are in use?

this is what we, or at least I, don't know. There's various discussions that maybe the 1.3 would create less heat since it doesn't have to work as hard or because it's running at 4.5W instead of 5.5 or 6W like the 1.1. Maybe because of this, the 1.3 can turbo for longer? I dunno. The general consensus is that a 10% increase in scores is equal to a 10% increase in processing power. I'm willing to pay more if heat is less from the 1.1 to the 1.3. I'm not sure if 1.2 to 1.3 will be noticeable, but that's why i'm hoping reviews come out comparing them.
 
Definitely background stuff on the first go round... here's the latest (with Adobe Creative Cloud, Synology CloudStation, Office 365, etc. in background running). No apps like Mail, Safari, etc. running.
 

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Definitely background stuff on the first go round... here's the latest (with Adobe Creative Cloud, Synology CloudStation, Office 365, etc. in background running). No apps like Mail, Safari, etc. running.

That puts it up there with this year's 11" MBA. Very nice. :)
 
Definitely background stuff on the first go round... here's the latest (with Adobe Creative Cloud, Synology CloudStation, Office 365, etc. in background running). No apps like Mail, Safari, etc. running.
That's impressive, pretty much on par with the new base model i5 in the 2015 Airs in both single and multi-core.
 
Definitely background stuff on the first go round... here's the latest (with Adobe Creative Cloud, Synology CloudStation, Office 365, etc. in background running). No apps like Mail, Safari, etc. running.

Do you notice any UI lag with the 1.3 macbook? Can you post a video of basic usage so we can see how the UI looks? I know when I checked out the 1.1 Macbooks at the Apple store, the UI was very laggy. I was just opening basic stuff like safari, and checking out youtube and such.
 
@southerndoc

Would you mind installing Intel(R) Power Gadget and coconutBattery and posting answers to the following questions?

1) What are the values for
a) Power,
b) Frequency,
c) Temperature,
d) Battery Temperature (shown by coconutBattery)
in idle mode?

2) What are the values under heavy load?
 
I thought the turboboost works in single core as well as multi core. If so there should also be a speed difference in the single mode score going from 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 GHz, right ?

We'll I'll give you a few answers.

First it really depends on what you use the machine for. The multicore is better, but that isn't going to make any difference to you if the software you run doesn't take advantage of it. Which depends on how it's written. If you're not using software written to take advantage of the multiple cores, you won't see much difference.

The other thing I'll say, is if you keep your machines a while, it's probably to your advantage to go all in and get the best one. Also I would second this if it's a primary machine. If it's secondary, and you want to save a few bucks, then maybe 1.2 is a better choice. But if it comes down to money for this machine, I would pick the larger HDD over the clock speed, because the larger hdd tend to read/write faster. Probably more noticeable improvement in that case.

For me personally, I'm highly interested in this score, and have been waiting for it before ordering because, I do graphics/video/photography work. Now I would never recommend this machine for graphics work, for me it will be secondary (I have a retina MBP for this), but on the off chance I ever have to do something minor on it (which happens in my line of work), I want to know it can handle it. I also deal with large file sizes. So in my case every little bit helps. If the 1.2 and 1.3 were largely on par with one another, I would save the time and the money and get the 1.2. However given some of the scores on Geekbench for the 1.2 I'm inclined to believe they are not. There are some pretty high scores on there for that one and what's posted here for that 1.3 doesn't seem right, which is why i'd like to see some more scores from other people.
 
Definitely background stuff on the first go round... here's the latest (with Adobe Creative Cloud, Synology CloudStation, Office 365, etc. in background running). No apps like Mail, Safari, etc. running.

Looks like the upgrade was definitely worth it.
 
Southerndoc's early and later results emphasize the importance of waiting until the machine has reached a stable operating state before running benchmarks. Unfortunately I expect that we will see a lot of fresh out of the box results from excited owners. :eek:
 
Southerndoc - can you try again, with absolutely everything else (all those background adobe/office things, activity monitor etc) shut? All finder windows closed etc, basically a totally blank slate apart from Geek bench? I think that is what most folks posting to Geekbench do to maximise their scores, so the only way to get a comparable score would be for you to do the same!

But very cool that the numbers are definitley a cut above the 1.1/1.2, and possibly even more cool/impressive that they seem to be hitting the same scores as the low end i5s in the MBA which are 3x more power hungry!

Thanks for all your posts and playing with Geekbench...
 
Southerndoc - can you try again, with absolutely everything else (all those background adobe/office things, activity monitor etc) shut? All finder windows closed etc, basically a totally blank slate apart from Geek bench? I think that is what most folks posting to Geekbench do to maximise their scores, so the only way to get a comparable score would be for you to do the same!

But very cool that the numbers are definitley a cut above the 1.1/1.2, and possibly even more cool/impressive that they seem to be hitting the same scores as the low end i5s in the MBA which are 3x more power hungry!

Thanks for all your posts and playing with Geekbench...


2 more tests: (just figured out how to upload)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2409396
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2409416

I had to sign out from iCloud, then sign back in due to some keychain issues. I think everything has sync'd. Will try again tomorrow. Unfortunately time is limited for testing, so I can't test with coconutbattery etc.

Getting some slightly different numbers each time. Guess that's to be expected.
 
1,1≈ 2150 / 4500
1,2≈ 2170 / 5000
1,3≈ 2800 / 5500

Seems like the 1,3 might be a lot snappier after all..
That price thou..

It´s like buying my old 2011 13" MBP i7 128GB SSD + 750GB HDD 16GB ram again. Same money, same speed. Bigger SSD, better graphics, a lot better screen, equal battery and über-sexy thin design.

That machine worked quite well with Photoshop so I assume this machine will to.
 
Couldn't be happier with it. The trackpad is really cool with the haptic feedback. Screen is amazing. I haven't had any issues with the limited tilt. I was worried I would since I use my laptop a lot while lying in bed with my knees bent and keyboard on my legs. No problem at all.

Haven't experienced any UI lag at all.
 
That latest benchmark is really impressive.

Makes me think that maybe I should have waited for the MacBook rather than buying a rMBP. The i7 Pro is only 25% faster single-core and 30% faster multi-core. And it's 70% heavier.

I was originally expecting a score >2500 and it looks like the MacBook beats that easily.

The leaked/faked benchmark really put me off.
 
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