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I'm hoping for a 14" with at least one Thunderbolt 2.0 port.

As for wrist rest area, some experts recommend NOT resting your wrist:
http://www.healthytyping.com/articles/how-wrist-wrests-can-hurt-you/

I know, however it's hard for me not to. I have legit NFL QB hands, over 9" from the bottom of Palm to the tip of my fingers. It's not even technically a "wrist" rest for me. It's a palm rest lol. Testing the MBR in store my palms would land WAY off the end, very uncomfortable. I could pick the damn think up laying flat with my fingers wrapped around it :)

That's why I prefer the MBA 13" footprint over the 13" MBPR because it's actually a larger footprint.
 
As for the resale price, probably not. It depends on whether people think the extra speed is worth the pretty high price Apple is asking for it.

Generally speaking, base models are best in terms of resale value. No one cares 1 or 2 years from now if it's a 1.1GHz, 1.2GHz, or 1.3GHz. It will be a Broadwell Core M when the market has moved on to Skylake or Cannon Lake, which will be leaps and bounds ahead of Broadwell.
 
Generally speaking, base models are best in terms of resale value. No one cares 1 or 2 years from now if it's a 1.1GHz, 1.2GHz, or 1.3GHz. It will be a Broadwell Core M when the market has moved on to Skylake or Cannon Lake, which will be leaps and bounds ahead of Broadwell.
Yea, I know, thats why I qualified it with it becoming a known standout. For instance I have noticed people cant seem to give away bas 128GB rMBP's. Frankly, I can take the hits (and have) for Apple and back in the day Vaio. If, again if, I can make that thing work for my needs for constant travel, my $2200 has to go to ebay next weekend at just one month old! You have no idea (or maybe you do) what a difference 1.3lbs makes in an over the shoulder travel bag.
 
Yea, I know, thats why I qualified it with it becoming a known standout. For instance I have noticed people cant seem to give away bas 128GB rMBP's. Frankly, I can take the hits (and have) for Apple and back in the day Vaio. If, again if, I can make that thing work for my needs for constant travel, my $2200 has to go to ebay next weekend at just one month old! You have no idea (or maybe you do) what a difference 1.3lbs makes in an over the shoulder travel bag.

In that case, I think it's the 128GB SSD that's the issue. The base rMB comes with 256GB, which is sufficient for most people. In any case, I doubt the 1.3GB will be worth the extra $150/250 for most buyers in a year or two. It might go for $50-100 more.
 
Yes, exactly. I suspect there are a lot of bad tests in the data.

I doubt we will see many other 1.3GHz rMB computers get as good of Geekbench score results as southerdoc.

I challenge the 1.2GHz owners to turn off everything to see what maximum Geekbench scores they can get.
 
Most of you have over estimated resale value. What the 1.3 will do, is ensure that you unit will sell first.

I can see that in 1 to 2 years there will be a 30 to 40% drop in value. If the next edition is spectacular…expect to lose 50%.

All that premium will only line Apple's pockets. Sad but true.
 
All that premium will only line Apple's pockets. Sad but true.


I don't know if that's "all" it would do. There is also that small matter of providing a slightly better performing computer in the meanwhile.
 
I doubt we will see many other 1.3GHz rMB computers get as good of Geekbench score results as southerdoc.

I challenge the 1.2GHz owners to turn off everything to see what maximum Geekbench scores they can get.

Besides other apps, what do needs to be turned off?
 
I get 2608 Single-Core and 5314 Multi-Core Geekbench Score on my 12" MacBook 1.2GHz (WiFi off, Bluetooth off, fresh restart, no power cord).

all off, no power cord.png
 
I doubt we will see many other 1.3GHz rMB computers get as good of Geekbench score results as southerdoc.

I challenge the 1.2GHz owners to turn off everything to see what maximum Geekbench scores they can get.

http://9to5mac.com/2015/04/25/first-12-macbook-1-3ghz-benchmarks-top-model-rivals-1-4ghz-imac-2014-macbook-air/
 
Latest updates (last tests I'm doing). This gets obsessive to say the least. Hard to imagine that all I'm thinking about during a birthday party for my wife's friend's daughter is getting home to run more Geekbench tests (this on top of only sleeping 1 hour this morning after getting off work, needing to take the dog to get groomed, and then watching the baby while my wife could get ready for the party).

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2413549
2768 single, 5676 multi -- EVERYTHING off (all processes, WiFi, Bluetooth, Time Machine)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2413527
2870 single, 5729 multi -- Everything off except WiFi, Bluetooth, Time Machine (not actively backing up)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2413509
2594 single, 5081 multi *** 32 bit *** (same processes as 2870/5729 results with 64-bit)

If you want to see all results, you can go to http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/86655

Unfortunately my first two (including the second one that got the best numbers) weren't posted because I didn't realize you could upload them. I didn't sign up for an account until the third test.

I hope this helps some of you make a decision whether to purchase the 1.3. Some have been saying it's not a powerful machine, etc. This MacBook is primarily designed for travelers and low-end users. If you're needing serious computing power, this probably isn't for you. If you need Safari, Mail, Powerpoint, Word, etc., then this is a dream come true if you travel a lot like me (I do a lot of consulting work).
 
From 9to5 article


MacBook 1.1GHz
32-Bit: Single-Core Average 2212, Multi-Core Average 4070
64-Bit: Single-Core Average 2428, Multi-Core Average 4592


MacBook 1.2GHz
32-Bit: Single-Core Average 2348, Multi-Core Average 4603
64-Bit: Single-Core Average 2579, Multi-Core Average 5185


MacBook 1.3GHz
32-Bit: Single-Core* 2271, Multi-Core* 4841
64-Bit: Single-Core Average 2816, Multi-Core Average 5596


1.3 looks good. Def worth it for long term owners
 
From 9to5 article


MacBook 1.1GHz
32-Bit: Single-Core Average 2212, Multi-Core Average 4070
64-Bit: Single-Core Average 2428, Multi-Core Average 4592


MacBook 1.2GHz
32-Bit: Single-Core Average 2348, Multi-Core Average 4603
64-Bit: Single-Core Average 2579, Multi-Core Average 5185


MacBook 1.3GHz
32-Bit: Single-Core* 2271, Multi-Core* 4841
64-Bit: Single-Core Average 2816, Multi-Core Average 5596


1.3 looks good. Def worth it for long term owners

To me it's worth the money. I'm not doing processor intensive tasks, but do keep multiple apps open (iTunes, Safari, Messages, QuickBooks, Mail).
 
Received 1.3/512 SG Today - GeekBench Results

1.3 looks good. Def worth it for long term owners


Hope you're right because I have just waited 7 years to swap, so I hope it will be ready for a similarly long haul. Though I expect to try and cut that cycle in half this time around.
 
I've been in the market for a portable PC/Notebook and haven't really cared for the tablet stuff. this 12" MacBook as far as form factor is exactly what I want! I don't need it for any CPU intensive tasks , will just be web browsing , streaming, music.

I've been stressing myself out trying to figure out which model I want to get... And with all these benches out how would these scores relate to real world usuage % between the 3 models of CPU ? Because I know the 1.3 isn't going to be 16-22% better then the 1.1 in real life usuage!

Im trying to really decide if I should get the base 1.1Ghz/256Gb ($1599CAD) or 1.2Ghz/512Gb($1899CAD) can't make up my mind... Along with not being able to make my mind up with Space Grey vs Silver lol

But would greatly appreciate if you guys could give a guesstimate of real world usuage performance difference between the 3 according to the geekbench benchmarks
 
Or that all three models are starting to look better than initially thought.

Agreed. It sure looks like Apple did their homework when the designed these computers. They seem to be doing pretty well.

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southerdoc:

Can you comment on the heating / warmth your seeing from your computer during these tests?

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I've been in the market for a portable PC/Notebook and haven't really cared for the tablet stuff. this 12" MacBook as far as form factor is exactly what I want! I don't need it for any CPU intensive tasks , will just be web browsing , streaming, music.

I've been stressing myself out trying to figure out which model I want to get... And with all these benches out how would these scores relate to real world usuage % between the 3 models of CPU ? Because I know the 1.3 isn't going to be 16-22% better then the 1.1 in real life usuage!

Im trying to really decide if I should get the base 1.1Ghz/256Gb ($1599CAD) or 1.2Ghz/512Gb($1899CAD) can't make up my mind... Along with not being able to make my mind up with Space Grey vs Silver lol

But would greatly appreciate if you guys could give a guesstimate of real world usuage performance difference between the 3 according to the geekbench benchmarks

I bet you wouldn't notice much of a real world difference. I have heard, however, that the 1.1GHz processor runs a little warmer. I'd recommend the 1.2GHz.
 
Not seeing any warmth really. I've had it in my lap for a couple hours doing web surfing, email, word processing without any significant warmth.

Not sure how hot it gets with doing something heavy. Even backing up with Time Machine, downloading iCloud photos, etc. it didn't get too warm.

I think the 1.1 GHz machine may get a lot more warm than the 1.2 and 1.3 GHz machines.
 
Clearly with these Geekbench scores and the user noticing no real heat...the 1.3GHz extra $250 is well worth it. In fact it may prove that the 1.1 and 1.2 are money poorly spent!
 
Latest updates (last tests I'm doing). This gets obsessive to say the least. Hard to imagine that all I'm thinking about during a birthday party for my wife's friend's daughter is getting home to run more Geekbench tests (this on top of only sleeping 1 hour this morning after getting off work, needing to take the dog to get groomed, and then watching the baby while my wife could get ready for the party).

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2413549
2768 single, 5676 multi -- EVERYTHING off (all processes, WiFi, Bluetooth, Time Machine)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2413527
2870 single, 5729 multi -- Everything off except WiFi, Bluetooth, Time Machine (not actively backing up)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2413509
2594 single, 5081 multi *** 32 bit *** (same processes as 2870/5729 results with 64-bit)

If you want to see all results, you can go to http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/86655

Unfortunately my first two (including the second one that got the best numbers) weren't posted because I didn't realize you could upload them. I didn't sign up for an account until the third test.

I hope this helps some of you make a decision whether to purchase the 1.3. Some have been saying it's not a powerful machine, etc. This MacBook is primarily designed for travelers and low-end users. If you're needing serious computing power, this probably isn't for you. If you need Safari, Mail, Powerpoint, Word, etc., then this is a dream come true if you travel a lot like me (I do a lot of consulting work).

I am a systems architect/developer/administrator and the 1.1 is doing a fine job, the jump to the 1.3 looks like money well spent and I am trading up. Thanks for all your testing!! I have a week left today on my trial run of the 1.1/256 and I am gonna bite on the 1.3 - due May 21 from Apple. Your benchmarks indicate that the machine is competent performance wise against the late 2008 i5 rMBP 128GB I let go to a new owner this week for a cool $1,100. With my wife's education discounts, I am into the 1.3/256 for $1434 out the door. Not bad given the very desirable features of this great new notebook.
 
I am a systems architect/developer/administrator and the 1.1 is doing a fine job, the jump to the 1.3 looks like money well spent and I am trading up. Thanks for all your testing!! I have a week left today on my trial run of the 1.1/256 and I am gonna bite on the 1.3 - due May 21 from Apple. Your benchmarks indicate that the machine is competent performance wise against the late 2008 i5 rMBP 128GB I let go to a new owner this week for a cool $1,100. With my wife's education discounts, I am into the 1.3/256 for $1434 out the door. Not bad given the very desirable features of this great new notebook.

How do you have a shipping estimate of the 21st from Apple? have you already placed an order for the 1.3 earlier, knowing that you would test the 1.1 out and decide if to return it and wait on the 1.3 to ship? Because I ordered on the 17th and have a minimum ship date of the 22nd.
 
I am a systems architect/developer/administrator and the 1.1 is doing a fine job, the jump to the 1.3 looks like money well spent and I am trading up. Thanks for all your testing!! I have a week left today on my trial run of the 1.1/256 and I am gonna bite on the 1.3 - due May 21 from Apple. Your benchmarks indicate that the machine is competent performance wise against the late 2008 i5 rMBP 128GB I let go to a new owner this week for a cool $1,100. With my wife's education discounts, I am into the 1.3/256 for $1434 out the door. Not bad given the very desirable features of this great new notebook.

The late 2008 MacBook Pro was neither "Retina" nor "i5." Is that a typo?

Also, as an architect, what kind of apps do you run?

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BTW, though I am obsessed as anyone about measuring performance of my Macs, I didn't get the Retina MacBook because of its performance. I currently don't use my Apple laptop for anything demanding. (I use a Mac desktop for tough stuff.)

I got it because it was small, thin, and light like the MacBook Air but had a Retina screen. The fact that it has an improved keyboard and touch pad is a bonus.
 
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