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We know it is the parents who actually pays for the phones and most other items. However, to look and group family by income can affect the mind of teenagers who are already self-conscious about their own image and an embarrassment they are from a low-income family. It can possibly affect them and continue into their adult life. How many live to “keep up with the Joneses”, “live paycheck to paycheck” or have amassed huge credit debt to live the “lifestyle” of the wealthy? They are true yet a financial situation that one should not fall into. I will say this, an iPhone is an electronic communication device that connects us with other people and search for information and not a “luxury” item. If an iPhone works for you, by all means go for it and if a Samsung works for you, go for it. No one, especially a teen, should be ashamed in which they choose.

I can appreciate your post, but I’m gonna be completely honest with you, you’re on a completely different tangent than I was. I was speaking solely based on how teenagers didn’t have phones so many years ago or how they weren’t allowed to, but we live in a world now where that’s changed and the freedom they have in choice of providing a communication device for emergency purposes or other by the parent. That’s all I was indicating.
 
They still haven't caught up to Apple in silicon or facial recognition.

Android has had the convenience of face unlock since iPhone 4 era. The security aspect isn't up to the level of Apple's faceid but it is very unlikely the person that finds your lost phone would have a high res photo of the owner.

Also apple will never catch up to android with certain pro features because apple doesn't want to implement them.
 
Android has had the convenience of face unlock since iPhone 4 era. The security aspect isn't up to the level of Apple's faceid but it is very unlikely the person that finds your lost phone would have a high res photo of the owner.

Also apple will never catch up to android with certain pro features because apple doesn't want to implement them.
It’s worthless and you know it.

Samsung won’t catch-up in many important areas like security, privacy, smoothness of operation, value retention, or long term device usability. iPhone is still more powerful.
 
Hopefully now you will all realise why they are focusing on Animojis, AR and services rather than Pro features.

These are not mutually exclusive. Pro features are also much more complex and hard to do right. So they are not “focusing” on Animoji, it’s just easier to do and takes less time.
 
Teens are fickle; in one day, out the next. If you really think about it, adults are no different.

First the Nokias, then the Razrs, then the Blackberries, then the iPhone, then....who knows. Apple has a huge presence and they are clearly doing something right to maintain the “in” factor for so long that’s easily lost especially in tech. Credit to them.
 
So glad we didnt have iPhones in middle school or high school / Instagram and all that garbage... I think it would be totally poopy to be a teenager in 2019
Agreed. I can't imagine being in school with a bunch of always connected brats.
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Nobody likes getting ugly green text messages... it reflects badly on the sender.
It reflects even worse on the receiver who passes false judgement.
 
I can appreciate your post, but I’m gonna be completely honest with you, you’re on a completely different tangent than I was. I was speaking solely based on how teenagers didn’t have phones so many years ago or how they weren’t allowed to, but we live in a world now where that’s changed and the freedom they have in choice of providing a communication device for emergency purposes or other by the parent. That’s all I was indicating.
I understand what you are saying. As referencing to the article, I sure hope parents do have a say in which brand smartphone to choose because after all, parents are paying for the phone and the data plan. I just don’t like how the survey implies teens are the ones who are making the decision and paying for the phone.
 
I had a pager when I was 16. Being a cool kid is getting so much more expensive.

When I was sixteen, being a cool kid meant like having a dime to drop in a payphone and call home for a ride if it started to pour cats and dogs on the way home from an evening at the movies. You were cool if one of your parents was actually into rolling out to fetch you and your friends home instead of killing your dime reminiscing about how when they were 16 :eek: they walked ten miles to school and back every weekday in the snow all winter and delivered newspapers before dawn too yada yada yada.

Being a teenager sucks sometimes, no matter what kind of comms device you're toting around.

Back in the late 50s pretty much only doctors had pagers and at least their families thought they were anything but cool. Picture a carving knife poised over Thanksgiving turkey and.... beep beep beep: some hapless person's appendix was calling for a scalpel in an operating room instead of a holiday meal.

I agree things have got a lot more expensive since then. I'm in the bunch figures iPhones are worth it. If I had a teen I'd rather he or she used an iPhone and its ecosystem over other options.

Still, even iPhones should get checked into an upstairs bedroom with the coats at a holiday gathering. Social media contacts are not the same thing as real live people at the table. Teenagers or no, there needs to be a limit on how intrusive we allow these devices to become when they're only meant to serve us, not run our lives.
 
I have a teenager. She doesn't care what phone she has as long as she has one. I've never heard any of her friends talking about their phones and none of them seem to care and my daughter has never brought it up or asked for a specific phone.

Besides, teens can't afford to buy their phones or plans. It's their parents buying them and their parents own iphones so they're buying the same for their kids.
I work at a school. I've interacted with thousands of kids since working here. 95% think having an Android is uncool.
 
I suspect many teens start out with a two- or three-year-old iPhone passed down from their parents.
Yeah. I don’t have kids. But being older everyone I know has kids. And most adults have iphones. And very few of them get their kids new phones. Most of these teens by the way would be ok with a Samsung or some other Android phone. But they get what their mom and dad hands them down. It is isn’t like they have much of a choice lol.
 
I'm going to stand outside of an Apple store and first ask people if they have an iPhone and if they say Yes, I'll say here take this survey, then go report........ 100% of people in America surveyed own an iPhone.
 
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Why are you spending your time on a site dedicated to rumors about products you hate so much?


Why would someone would go to a web site for enthusiasts and spend their time trolling on the enthusiasts all day? Don't know about anything about this poster, but psychologists say they are often people who feel powerless and unhappy in their world, so the thought that others are enjoying something and appear happy highlights their negative situation. "Throwing a turd in the punch bowl," makes them momentarily feel powerful and gets back at those celebrating something. Apple is the most successful company in the history of the world, so the combination of success and strong fan base is a powerful lure; hence the repeat business.
 
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Yeah. I don’t have kids. But being older everyone I know has kids. And most adults have iphones. And very few of them get their kids new phones. Most of these teens by the way would be ok with a Samsung or some other Android phone. But they get what their mom and dad hands them down. It is isn’t like they have much of a choice lol.

This is true in my family, my daughter has all my hand me down Apples.
 
It’s worthless and you know it.

Samsung won’t catch-up in many important areas like security, privacy, smoothness of operation, value retention, or long term device usability. iPhone is still more powerful.

This survey shows privacy isn't an important feature. These teens gave up their age, address/zip code and sex in the survey. These teens didn't care about giving up private information.
 
This survey shows privacy isn't an important feature. These teens gave up their age, address/zip code and sex in the survey. These teens didn't care about giving up private information.
That’s not the point. They will care and they are using an iPhone already. Just shows iPhone’s appeal is wide ranging.
 
How do teens afford iPhones! I hope they atleast have iphone 6s's or something... Incurring a debt to get an iPhone is no way to live!
 
Teens literally couldn't give less of a **** about hardware. If it's not an iPhone it's not "cool"
I mean...I’m 15 and I like the iPhone because of its software. I know the galaxy is slightly faster but I don’t really need a slightly faster phone. I like Apple Music, Apple Pay, and the general look and feel of the device. There are a few people who just like it because it’s an iPhone, but most people actually like it’s features.
 
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Every year for like 10 year, MR has posted a similar article. "survey finds 80+% of teens use iPhones".

and every year, it's... bizarre because the evidence of numberes outside of those surveys point to a different picture.

For example, Apple's American market share is approximately 45% (I believe 20's-30's% worldwide). roughly 1/2 of the self reported teen use. Do teens suddenly become adults and stop buying iPhones and go elsewhere?

whose paying for those iPhones? Teens have 1,000+ to spend on phones every year? The same teens who for the most part don't work (or if they do tend to do part time low income work). And if they are using parents hand-me-downs, that still doesn't account for how many more teens than adults are on iphones (by percentage of the population reported). And oh boy are those same teens in for sticker shock when their parents no longer buy or provide them phones.

these Survey's just don't make sense in the grand picture. There's a real disconnect. The only thing I can see explaining this is that teens self reporting on what devices they use is wrong. They lie for whatever purpose (peer pressure? Desire to fit in? etc?)

But simply put. To believe that 85% of all teens are using iPhones is completely unbelievable given the broader picture.
 
Every year for like 10 year, MR has posted a similar article. "survey finds 80+% of teens use iPhones".

and every year, it's... bizarre because the evidence of numberes outside of those surveys point to a different picture.

For example, Apple's American market share is approximately 45% (I believe 20's-30's% worldwide). roughly 1/2 of the self reported teen use. Do teens suddenly become adults and stop buying iPhones and go elsewhere?

whose paying for those iPhones? Teens have 1,000+ to spend on phones every year? The same teens who for the most part don't work (or if they do tend to do part time low income work). And if they are using parents hand-me-downs, that still doesn't account for how many more teens than adults are on iphones (by percentage of the population reported). And oh boy are those same teens in for sticker shock when their parents no longer buy or provide them phones.

these Survey's just don't make sense in the grand picture. There's a real disconnect. The only thing I can see explaining this is that teens self reporting on what devices they use is wrong. They lie for whatever purpose (peer pressure? Desire to fit in? etc?)

But simply put. To believe that 85% of all teens are using iPhones is completely unbelievable given the broader picture.

Agreed. Surveys should be taken with a grain of salt especially given the demographic surveyed. I feel these surveys are always skewed for a specific narrative and done poorly. It’s like creating a focus group where you indirectly influence the answers leading you to think the results are completely clean.
 
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