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Just went over to Apple Insider, their article says "86% of teens say their next phone is an iPhone". So who's reporting the real results, MacRumors or Apple Insider?

This is why:

MacRumors FTA: “Meanwhile, 86 percent of U.S. teens expect their next smartphone to be an iPhone, matching an all-time high set in fall 2018

The 83% is current ownership, which MacRumors chose to use in the headline. Not sure why AppleInsider is only reporting intent and not the current ownership.

More data:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...-Completes-Semi-Annual-Generation-Survey-8000

Both headlines are acceptable. AppleInsider just chose to focus on that angle and I chose this one.

Does MacRumors post actual article links for sources?

Updated the MacRumors article with link to PDF: https://www.scribd.com/document/405454631/Taking-Stock-With-Teens-Spring-2019
 
And now you have explained to yourself why software, ecosystem, support, update- and privacy-policy matter as a huge surplus value which Android manufacturers will never overcome with spec- and price-dumping ... You feel smarter now, don't you? ;-)
Ironically your claims are equally unimportant to teens getting phones. They want Apple the brand. Just like they want Beats, or Vans, or whatever other popular thing there is out there. If Apple suddenly became an unpopular brand they would abandon it as quickly as the next hot replacement became available.

Why? Children and teens are two different demographics. The article is referring to teens, but either way, having a form of communication if the parent allows it, may be a necessary thing to communicate for emergencies or other matters. But saying it ‘should be illegal’ is overly drastic.
Yeah that poster is being overly dramatic with the "should be illegal" shtick. A phone can be a strong weapon in defense of the safety of kids.
Small niggle. Children and teens aren't two different demographics. Teens are children, and "children" isn't solely defined by age. You and I are our parent's children and both of us have reached majority. Even by context alone, it's obvious he was using the word children is a synonymous manner.
 
The survey found that 27 percent of U.S. teens own a smartwatch
Wow, did not expect this... It looks like watches aren’t dead after all...
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I can’t get over the fact that these are still a thing... Whoever their brand manager is, they’re a freaking genius.

“Be a rebel. Dress like your parents.”
 
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Teens always tell the truth. /s

Perhaps the title of the article should read:
"Record 83% of Surveyed U.S. Teens SAY THEY Own an iPhone"
 
This is why I've been saying here for years, is all about branding and imaging for Apple. Just like how Supreme with their absurd prices gets lots of sales because of the branding and 'cool' factor.

Most teens don't look on which they think is better (a Samsung S10/android or a XS). All their friends have an iPhone, they want to fit in and have one as well.

But people here like to still argue it's not because of branding or image.
 
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Teens always tell the truth. /s

Perhaps the title of the article should read:
"Record 83% of Surveyed U.S. Teens SAY THEY Own an iPhone"

So you think they really own an Android phone and just lie and say they own an iPhone?
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This is why I've been saying here for years, is all about branding and imaging for Apple. Just like how Supreme with their absurd prices gets lots of sales because of the branding and 'cool' factor.

Most teens don't look on which they think is better (a Samsung S10/android or a XS). All their friends have an iPhone, they want to fit in and have one as well.

But people here like to still argue it's not because of branding or image.

I'd say that's part of it, but you are making a blanket statement like it's fact. Marketing and branding is huge for Apple, but they also make a very good product. It is possible that some people just prefer an iPhone to an Android phone.
 
How is this a surprise when Samsung launch cycle is 6 months ahead of Apple....it took ages for Samsung to catch up to Apple and have competitive hardware (I'm talking silicon here...) The s8 I felt was a worthy competitor, the S10 is really nice) and now they are ahead......until the next iteration of iPhone this summer...shrug.

Use what you prefer, I'd just rather Apple than Google. I get told I'm a dummy all the time for using Apple, it's no biggie since my coding days are long behind me....
They still haven't caught up to Apple in silicon or facial recognition.
 
This is why I've been saying here for years, is all about branding and imaging for Apple. Just like how Supreme with their absurd prices gets lots of sales because of the branding and 'cool' factor.

Most teens don't look on which they think is better (a Samsung S10/android or a XS). All their friends have an iPhone, they want to fit in and have one as well.

But people here like to still argue it's not because of branding or image.
I have a teenager. She doesn't care what phone she has as long as she has one. I've never heard any of her friends talking about their phones and none of them seem to care and my daughter has never brought it up or asked for a specific phone.

Besides, teens can't afford to buy their phones or plans. It's their parents buying them and their parents own iphones so they're buying the same for their kids.
 
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Also, our children get a lot of hand-me-downs. I wonder if that's at least part of the stats.
 
I remember when I used to chase Android specs.

Yet in the end, the efficiency and performance of iOS and Apples custom chips always resulted in better performance over my Android devices with "superior" specs.
I remember when I chased specs on gadgets too. I was all about Blu-ray and PS3, calling the Wii **** because the specs and graphics were ****. I eventually grew up once I played a Wii and ended up buying one myself. I started to understand why specs weren’t the be all and end all, and not the whole picture. Then I found iTunes & an iPod that I was given at Xmas in 2007. It grew from there. It’s now about the whole experience for me, no matter the price. It seems childish to go on about specs and price now. My Nokia 920 (yes, I went over to WP for a bit) had NFC (SPECS SPECS SPECS!!!), but could I use it for anything? Nope, not in the UK anyway - it was purely a bragging right, not very useful. Again, childish.
 
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iPhone popularity among teens is a good sign for Apple, as many of them could stick with the iPhone as an adult.
Until they have to buy their own.
Both my kids switched away from Macs and iPhones when that happened.

(Come to think of it, I did pay for their current phones and they still both switched Away from Apple.)
 
Until they have to buy their own.
Both my kids switched away from Macs and iPhones when that happened.

(Come to think of it, I did pay for their current phones and they still both switched Away from Apple.)
generally because there are cheaper android phones available. They go through their 20's moving away from what their parents bought them because nothing your parents do is right.

But then they become adults, have kids and a mortgage and don't have as much time and just want their stuff to work with minimal hassle and they come back to apple.
 
And now you have explained to yourself why software, ecosystem, support, update- and privacy-policy matter as a huge surplus value which Android manufacturers will never overcome with spec- and price-dumping ... You feel smarter now, don't you? ;-)
The antagonistic tone in your answer was really unnecessary. The poster you responded to wasn't even being snarky.

And to be fair, have you tried Android lately? It's pretty darn good.
 
I'm not questioning the validity of the survey. But let's be honest. They're surveying teenagers. How many of them are telling the truth about owning an iPhone, especially those from the lower income bracket? Teenagers lying about status symbols?
Okay, I am questioning the validity of the survey.
 
I have a teenager. She doesn't care what phone she has as long as she has one. I've never heard any of her friends talking about their phones and none of them seem to care and my daughter has never brought it up or asked for a specific phone.

Besides, teens can't afford to buy their phones or plans. It's their parents buying them and their parents own iphones so they're buying the same for their kids.
I do think teens just want to have any phone that they can text on and use social media. However if you asked then what phone they could have if they had a choice I think most would choose an iPhone.

Where I live most of the kids I see around my town centre have iPhones.
 
Not true, just compare the iPhone XR and Galaxy S10e ― pound for pound the S10e has better hardware, yet cost the same amount
Samsung should be far cheaper because it sports a free OS that collects usage data for advertising to target it's users, in fact Google should reimburse Samsung for the cost of hardware and offer it for free, yup, that's how valuable user data is to Google.
 
Just went over to Apple Insider, their article says "86% of teens say their next phone is an iPhone". So who's reporting the real results, MacRumors or Apple Insider?
They’ll all have to be good all year and write nicely to Santa

In all seriousness, they must eventually come to their senses (perhaps when they spend their own money) because Android outsells IOS overall.
 
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No good can come out of a survey that categorizes different classes of income groups...

Maybe not. But it is interesting to see the freedom that teenagers have today with smart phones. I personally think times have changed, where it was more taboo years ago where parents would never allow teenagers to have cell phones, now today, it’s almost the ‘norm’ per se
 
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Maybe not. But it is interesting to see the freedom that teenagers have today with smart phones. I personally think times have changed, where it was more taboo years ago where parents would never allow teenagers to have cell phones, now today, it’s almost the ‘norm’ per se
We know it is the parents who actually pays for the phones and most other items. However, to look and group family by income can affect the mind of teenagers who are already self-conscious about their own image and an embarrassment they are from a low-income family. It can possibly affect them and continue into their adult life. How many live to “keep up with the Joneses”, “live paycheck to paycheck” or have amassed huge credit debt to live the “lifestyle” of the wealthy? They are true yet a financial situation that one should not fall into. I will say this, an iPhone is an electronic communication device that connects us with other people and search for information and not a “luxury” item. If an iPhone works for you, by all means go for it and if a Samsung works for you, go for it. No one, especially a teen, should be ashamed in which they choose.
 
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