Reddit CEO: Apollo-Related Subreddit Blackouts 'Will Pass,' No Significant Revenue Impact So Far

[kemo]

Better yet, just delete accounts. This is the website that popularized r/JailBait

This is not enough as it is just half of the story, deleting all the content you posted (posts, comments) is way to go. Less content = less traffic = less ads shown = less profit for Reddit.


I am sure there will soon be much easier and more solid solution, but this is what I crafted in 10 minutes and within a few minutes content I posted for the last nine years is gone.

EDIT:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/popular-reddit-app-apollo-shutting-down-on-june-30.2392262/page-21?post=32239948#post-32239948

 

[tweaknmod]

Hopefully, everyone is deleting the Reddit app from their devices. Boycott Reddit!

I can only speak for myself, but I'm doing more than just deleting my account, come June 30th.

First, I did a data request, so I can download all saved content myself with jDownloader.

In a few days, assuming this ship isn't turning around anytime soon, I'll be nuking my account. Reddit won't continue to benefit from the content I've contributed over the years...

I look forward to seeing what comes next, and helping to build that into something even better.

 

[Longplays]

This is not enough as it is just half of the story, deleting all the content you posted (posts, comments) is way to go. Less content = less traffic = less ads shown = less profit for Reddit.

A lot of those Reddit users have social interaction difficulties

 

[CarlJ]

They could have gone the Spotify route - it's available in many other places than the official app, but you need a paid subscription to use those.

Yep, "you need an API key to use a 3rd party app, and you can get an API key by signing up for Reddit Premium" - I would have happily paid for that, because the communities I interact with on Reddit are worth that to me. But, instead, they chose a path clearly designed to kill off the 3rd party apps (without accepting responsibility for killing off the 3rd party apps), and have been caught lying through their teeth about the whole thing.

 

[quietstormSD]

I think it's a little silly. It's all because a developer doesn't want to pay for (or can't afford) the fees to access the website another company owns as an overlay. People need to realize that.

If Apollo or whatever is worth it, they would charge users a fee so they can afford paying Reddit, same thing that Tweetbot did. And this is NOT the same as Twitter. Twitter just completely shut off all access to third-party apps.

 

[anselpela]

What's stopping Reddit from banning the insurgent mods and reopening those subreddits?

The fact that Reddit let's volunteers run their website. They need paid moderators that are actually educated and trained in doing such a thing. Not the emotional children they have today. Which is something I think is definitely coming post IPO.

 

[gigapocket1]

No significant impact because everybody that uses those apps didn’t see ads anyway

 

[Killbynumbers]

That's just what some of the mods were thinking would happen. They warned that some of their subs may not come back depending on what the CEO said. Nothing much to do on Reddit with my favorite subs gone this week and if they don't come back, I won't.

 

[kemo]

I can only speak for myself, but I'm doing more than just deleting my account, come June 30th.

First, I did a data request, so I can download all saved content myself with jDownloader.

In a few days, assuming this ship isn't turning around anytime soon, I'll be nuking my account. Reddit won't continue to benefit from the content I've contributed over the years...

I look forward to seeing what comes next, and helping to build that into something even better.

This is the way! I did delete 9 years worth of content a few days ago before deleting the account itself. I can only wish more people would do the same.

 

[Killbynumbers]

No significant impact because everybody that uses those apps didn’t see ads anyway

My adblocker caught all the ads on the website on my Mac. I just always used the official Reddit app because I never knew there were alternatives.

 

[kemo]

I think it's a little silly. It's all because a developer doesn't want to pay for (or can't afford) the fees to access the website another company owns as an overlay. People need to realize that.

If Apollo or whatever is worth it, they would charge users a fee so they can afford paying Reddit, same thing that Tweetbot did. And this is NOT the same as Twitter. Twitter just completely shut off all access to third-party apps.

You are seeing it wrong sir, the fees are absurdly high.

 

[Yodalogger]

I'll just go back to individual web forums.
Any way to add a filter to DuckDuckGo to remove search results from Reddit?

 

[CarlJ]

In a few days, assuming this ship isn't turning around anytime soon, I'll be nuking my account. Reddit won't continue to benefit from the content I've contributed over the years...

I want some 3rd party organization to get a copy of all the data before everyone (who is intending to) nukes their account - because there's a ton of information there that is useful to everyone - I've found all sorts of extremely useful answers in 5-10 year old reddit posts, found by google searches. I'd hate to lose that entirely. I totally get wanting to keep Reddit from profiting off the information, but everyone nuking their posts out of existence hurts a lot more people than just the Reddit board of directors. The thing that makes Reddit special is not the Reddit app or website or CEO, it's the communities that have grown there - and erasing those communities (or punching big holes in them) permanently from history hurts everyone.

 

[Killbynumbers]

You are seeing it wrong sir, the fees are absurdly high.

Didn't he estimate those fees at being several million a year?

 

[Longplays]

This is not enough as it is just half of the story, deleting all the content you posted (posts, comments) is way to go. Less content = less traffic = less ads shown = less profit for Reddit.


I am sure there will soon be much easier and more solid solution, but this is what I crafted in 10 minutes and within a few minutes content I posted for the last nine years is gone.

EDIT:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/popular-reddit-app-apollo-shutting-down-on-june-30.2392262/page-21?post=32239948#post-32239948

Will this cover 3rd party websites that archive your post.

So that plug-in script may not totally scrub out Reddit posts.

 

[ricketysquire]

At the end of the day, it's a business and there's nothing wrong with running a business and making money from it. The underlying problem for me has always been that businesses have become so anti-consumer this last decade or so. Literally the lifeblood of a business is its consumers, yet businesses are actively attacking them. Like we need a change from "shareholder" capitalism, to "consumer" capitalism, where we start treating the consumer better and trying to maximize their value and positive experience in order to drive profit and growth.

I know that the advertisers are the "consumer" in the case of reddit, but its users are paying in their time, knowledge and participation, without said users there would be nothing for advertisers to advertise to.

 

[cthompson94]

I think it's a little silly. It's all because a developer doesn't want to pay for (or can't afford) the fees to access the website another company owns as an overlay. People need to realize that.

If Apollo or whatever is worth it, they would charge users a fee so they can afford paying Reddit, same thing that Tweetbot did. And this is NOT the same as Twitter. Twitter just completely shut off all access to third-party apps.

The Apollo dev stated that he would and tried to work with Reddit for an appropriate fee amount, but it was something along the lines of like 20 Million dollars per year with current Apollo traffic

 

[TheDauterive]

Yeah, that's cool but someone will start /r/apple2 and that'll become the default apple subreddit.

Reddit for better or worse is going nowhere because there's no alternative and nothing to stop someone starting a new subreddit with the same aim as the closed ones.

What do you mean no alternative? Haven't you ever heard of Mastodon?

 

[kemo]

Will this cover 3rd party websites that archive your post.

So that plug-in script may not totally scrub out Reddit posts.

Of course it will not remove it off of third parties. They (Reddit) do not show ads (profit) on third parties though - and thats what matters, the traffic will not lead to your content on Reddit.

 

[CasualFanboy]

Anyone who still has any interest or investment in reddit at this point has sat by and watched without concern, or possibly cheered, the banning and censoring of thousands of communities for simply not being sufficiently on-board with reddit's loony political agendas. The place is a hellscape now.

So yeah, bad decision by the company. But I don't feel too sorry for anyone who still cares about reddit.

 

[kemo]

The Apollo dev stated that he would and tried to work with Reddit for an appropriate fee amount, but it was something along the lines of like 20 Million dollars per year with current Apollo traffic

They could price the API access more reasonably so even third party apps could charge the users (reasonably). And I am sure many would happily pay for their private API key to access Reddit (without ads) through third party apps.
This whole thing could have taken very different route.

 

[CarlJ]

I think it's a little silly. It's all because a developer doesn't want to pay for (or can't afford) the fees to access the website another company owns as an overlay. People need to realize that.

The phrase "confidently incorrect" comes to mind - you're saying "people need to realize" something which is not true. I suggest you educate yourself on what is actually going on here.

 

[Janichsan]

Starting last night, about a thousand subreddits have gone private.

*doubt*

 

[macsplusmacs]

Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social)

It's a real shame that Reddit seems to care this little about the community that rather than making an effort to talk to developers and moderators and apologize for how this was handled, they'd rather just wall themselves off and and dare users to keep going...

mastodon.social

(creator of Apollo App on iOS)

 

[Naraxus]

These protests are amusing to see. Unless every Subreddit shuts down indefinitely this is nothing more than shouting to the wind. Huffman is 100% right. This will pass, people will forget and Reddit will go on as usual.