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Any noticeable increase in video quality? Skype has never been my ideal choice due to lack of quality audio & video.
 
Why, oh why can't I sign in to my Skype account with my Facebook account like on my Mac? I hoped MS would add this feature in this brand new release. :mad:
 
Skype?

That's the thing that is like facetime but is made by that company we all hate right? Bros?

It's the thing like Facetime, but Apple didn't shut it off on my phone.

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The sooner Microsoft gets over their hideous UI design, the better.
Let's see, their hideous design ability first reared its head in the 1980s.....and it still sucks. So, keep hoping!
 
Sometimes I actually have to wonder if a group of people here would actually defend Apple if the iPhone only ever was able to call other people with iPhones.

dumastudetto. This guy would be the first in line with a defense like this:

"Apple is right for doing this. They care about us and we should support them by purchasing more products so they introduce more features for the loyal customers who love Apple. Besides, who wants to talk to someone that doesn't use Apple products?. Only Apple users understand what a quality user experience is."
 
If I was silly enough to suggest someone buys hardware for just to use FaceTime it'd be an ~$200 iPod Touch. Nobody is suggesting that happens. I was simply saying FaceTime is better for me.

Also not sure about you, but I mostly call video call people I know fairly well. So I know before calling them whether they have an iOS device. There is very little "worry". If I know they don't have an iOS device/Mac I fire up Skype/Line etc. and use that.

I'm not exclusive to any one app. But if I know the contact can receive FaceTime calls I currently go that way as it's a superior experience.

Ah sorry I didn't spot the "for me" part. I thought you were just saying "Facetime is better"
 
Keeping telling yourself that ... over and over again ... while the rest of us will use something that has proven itself across many platforms.

Skype + Whatsapp / Viber are better than Facetime + iMessage, someone here once said Apple suck when it comes to services. I agree.
 
I have to agree with dumastudetto. The quality of calls, ease of call initiation, not having to ensure a contact is online/available - all make FaceTime better for me. I dropped Skype as my go to solution when FaceTime was introduced.

Skype has certainly proven itself, but that doesn't make it better for everyone.

Cross platform and group chatting are the big strengths fro Skype. If you require these features, then it's a no brainer.

I have to admit it's been a few months since I last used Skype but the quality was just not as good as FaceTime (both audio and video) when making calls iOS to iOS. This may not be the case via desktop - it's not something require so I've not tested.

Keane is simply stating facts. I've used both Skype and FaceTime a LOT talking to Asia.
There was a time, maybe three years ago, when Skype had great audio. But then they changed their protocol in some way, and ever since they have been MUCH more susceptible to audio dropouts than FaceTime. They both sound great on high quality US networks, but FaceTime is simply much more robust when the remote network is not great.

There is a second, MASSIVE, problem with Skype for iOS, which is that it is an energy vampire. Anyone who tells you their iPhone doesn't last long enough probably has Skype as the culprit. The problem is not when the app is active, it's that it burns so much power when it is doing god knows what as a background app.
MS has known about this for at least two years --- you can read plenty of online complaints about the issue --- and has done nothing to resolve the problem in two years. I see no mention of energy efficiency in the release notes.

(Personally I think Apple's single biggest reason for providing per-app energy usage in iOS8 was that Skype is the app they want to shame, the app that makes Apple look bad because it is on so many iPhones, making them all look like they have bad battery life. I am unaware of ANY other app that is both extremely widespread AND that wastes noticeable amounts of energy while running in background.
It will be interesting to see what people report when iOS8 comes out.)
 
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dumastudetto. This guy would be the first in line with a defense like this:

"Apple is right for doing this. They care about us and we should support them by purchasing more products so they introduce more features for the loyal customers who love Apple. Besides, who wants to talk to someone that doesn't use Apple products?. Only Apple users understand what a quality user experience is."

You forgot to use commonly slung words like "abomination" and similar. I also think your guess is too positive. You need a sentence or two that bashes all other phones. Maybe a "Die _____, Die!" reference too? There should also be a 99.9% reference. Here's my cut at it...

"Apple is absolutely brilliant for doing this. They care about us and this is the best way to guarantee an exceptional user experience that just works. No other phone experience comes close. I had to use my friends ________ phone the other day and the quality was far inferior… a complete abomination. It's stupid to even try to communicate with anything other than an iPhone. 99.9% would be much better off with an iPhone than a _________. I told my friend this and had to toss his _______ phone in the toilet to make him consider replacing it with an iPhone. My friend is usually pretty smart but he's dumb as rocks about this one. Die ____________, die."

When someone pushes back with some objective info that shows ______ phone delivers better voice quality, bash them and call them trolls. However, if the evidence piles up a bit that ________ is better, go with the usual of either trying to change or twist the subject or fall back to the good old "but which single phone is the most profitable" line.

Did I miss anything?
 
Keane is simply stating facts. I've used both Skype and FaceTime a LOT talking to Asia.
There was a time, maybe three years ago, when Skype had great audio. But then they changed their protocol in some way, and ever since they have been MUCH more susceptible to audio dropouts than FaceTime. They both sound great on high quality US networks, but FaceTime is simply much more robust when the remote network is not great.

There is a second, MASSIVE, problem with Skype for iOS, which is that it is an energy vampire. Anyone who tells you their iPhone doesn't last long enough probably has Skype as the culprit. The problem is not when the app is active, it's that it burns so much power when it is doing god knows what as a background app.
MS has known about this for at least two years --- you can read plenty of online complaints about the issue --- and has done nothing to resolve the problem in two years. I see no mention of energy efficiency in the release notes.

(Personally I think Apple's single biggest reason for providing per-app energy usage in iOS8 was that Skype is the app they want to shame, the app that makes Apple look bad because it is on so many iPhones, making them all look like they have bad battery life. I am unaware of ANY other app that is both extremely widespread AND that wastes noticeable amounts of energy while running in background.
It will be interesting to see what people report when iOS8 comes out.)




Truth. You pretty much have to kill off any push notifications with Skype or background refresh or it'll kill your phone. Then the usefulness of the app is removed.
 
When running in background the new v5 drains the battery as much as previous versions did. So no running Skype in background for me :(
 
Group chat (at least, audio) is coming to iOS 8 / Yosemite.

I'd love to use FT all the time, but the lack of cross-platform kills it. Apple will never budge on that, sadly.

I'd say Skype's BIG strength is the interconnection with the traditional phone system. I find that really convenient for calling other countries from my iMac and even, occasionally, from my iPhone.
I'd like for Apple to provide similar infrastructure, but I imagine they reckon the payoff from this is not worth pissing off the telcos. And, let's face it, while that inter-connectivity is useful today, it's a declining source of revenue: every year there are going to be fewer people you can't connect to via a VOIP service rather than a traditional phone number.

I wouldn't be TOO quick to dismiss FT as a cross-platform service.
- Apple claimed that was a goal when they released it (though obviously they've done nothing about that since then)
- it obviously IS a limitation to the service that it's not cross platform
- they're still willing to provide other services as cross platform, not just iTunes but even the newest cloud stuff.

My guess is the decision hasn't been made yet and remains in limbo. They're still considering the balance of how much it costs to provide the service (some underlying Apple infrastructure is needed), the win of more AppleIDs (require everyone who uses it, even on Android/Linux/Windows to have an AppleID and get them one step into the Apple eco-system?), and, my guess is THIS is the big one --- pissing off the telcos.
In the US this may not matter so much --- they're probably resigned themselves that voice is never going to make any more money for them --- but voice may still be a hot issue in plenty of other countries, especially since most countries have never had the US' tradition of an expectation of more-or-less free voice (that is, you pay something per month, but mostly don't bother tracking per minute, whether it was local calls in the old days, or large baskets of minutes plus free nights and weekends plus free to others on the same network of cellular).

My guess is that, for now, Apple is content to let others --- Skype most obviously fight this battle and establish the precedent. Once they feel they can move without much carrier anger, at that point (bit no sooner) they'll reconsider the issue.
 
100% NSA spyware.

You're actually on to something here. Coincidentally, NPR ran a story about this this morning, against a set of services and ISPs. The results, relative to Skype:

Skype
  • Encrypts Data Links: unknown
  • HTTPS: yes
  • HSTS: unknown
  • Forward Secrecy: unknown
  • STARTTLS: unknown
  • Share of Outgoing Email Encrypted: 0%
  • Share of Incoming Email Encrypted: 0%
What We Found: Skype was leaking parts of users' contact lists. We contacted Skype. It said the issue had been spotted before we called and Skype has now patched it in the most recent version of the app.

WhatsApp is worse. They revealed users phone numbers in clear text.

There is more that can be said about other services, including Apple, but that is for another thread.

BL.
 
Ugh. I wanted to like this. I really did.

I deleted old Skype and installed new one.

So far I can't find a way to delete conversations, you can no longer edit a message after you send it, only delete it, and I STILL don't get group chat notifications when the phone is locked or Skype isn't open. And it's riddled with bugs. I've had 4 crashes in the last hour, there is a weird void that pops up when dismissing the keyboard, and switching between conversations is laggy as heck because it tries to reorder them on the fly.

Granted I'm on an iPhone 4, but it annoys me how each version of Skype gets progressively worse. I just want to receive my group chat messages when they come in, not thirty minutes later. Is that too much to ask, Skype?!
 
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