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Apple is a private business, not a society or government. Democracy doesn't factor into it, but if you can get Apple to separate those toggles out then more power to you. That being said, I liked the old animations and the new animations are fine as well.

right, but you speak as if you own the business since your criteria for acceptability is your own satisfaction (not the shareholders', which i am one of btw)
 
right, but you speak as if you own the business since your criteria for acceptability is your own satisfaction (not the shareholders', which i am one of btw)

No I don't. I merely said that Apple is not a democracy. Which it is not.

Want something changed, complain loud enough to Apple.
 
I got disabled Parallax in 7.0.2 because I thought it probably used a tiny bit of battery and it did not seem useful to me.

The new fade out in 7.0.3 bugs my eyes for some reason, so I'm back to standard motion setting. Oh well.

Ditto. I found the animations entertaining.
 
No I don't. I merely said that Apple is not a democracy. Which it is not.

Want something changed, complain loud enough to Apple.

no, you said you like it, so you're fine with it—that being your criterion for acceptability (never mind how anyone else feels).

and you're right about the complaining loudly part—has gotten me superb results.
 
no, you said you like it, so you're fine with it—that being your criterion for acceptability (never mind how anyone else feels).

and you're right about the complaining loudly part—has gotten me superb results.

1. I'm allowed to like the animations.

2. I never said you had to like them, and I never said you were wrong for wanting to disable them separately from parallax.

3. If you can get apple to implement a change you will be happy with, then go for it.
 
look, everyone. this is not a matter of like/dislike. It is an objective fact that they have taken a toggle that used to control one (1) thing, and assigned it two (2). from a ui standpoint, this is regressive.
It seems like it was meant to control more than just parallax. It's called reduce motion, not disable parallax or something like that--they actually did rename it to that in one beta, but then changed it back. So, it's somewhat logical to say it was always meant to apply to more than just disabling parallax and reducing motion around the OS in general (where the animations more or less fall into that kind of category). So perhaps Apple corrected/enhanced a setting that was supposed to work that way to begin with, or at least in the end.
 
1. I'm allowed to like the animations.

2. I never said you had to like them, and I never said you were wrong for wanting to disable them separately from parallax.

3. If you can get apple to implement a change you will be happy with, then go for it.

You said (and I quote) "I'm fine with it being a single toggle" which I took to literally mean "I like it, and would leave it the way it is based on that". If I misunderstood you, I apologize.

And I really believe that during the beta process this forum's discussions shaped the final version of iOS 7. That's part of what makes me think the whole motion sickness thing was bogus—would've been addressed during that process. We got it nearly perfect—that was the point of the beta!

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It seems like it was meant to control more than just parallax. It's called reduce motion, not disable parallax or something like that--they actually did rename it to that in one beta, but then changed it back. So, it's somewhat logical to say it was always meant to apply to more than just disabling parallax and reducing motion around the OS in general (where the animations more or less fall into that kind of category). So perhaps Apple corrected/enhanced a setting that was supposed to work that way to begin with, or at least in the end.

to call two things one does not make it so
 
You said (and I quote) "I'm fine with it being a single toggle" which I took to literally mean "I like it, and would leave it the way it is based on that". If I misunderstood you, I apologize.

You understood me correctly. I like both the animations and parallax so I'm fine with them being controlled by single toggle. so what. My interaction with iOS has bearing on one person in this world, me. It doesn't mean that you should do things the way I do. It doesn't mean you should like the things that I do.

It most certainly does not mean that I am trying to control either the way you interact with your device or feature you might want.
 
You said (and I quote) "I'm fine with it being a single toggle" which I took to literally mean "I like it, and would leave it the way it is based on that". If I misunderstood you, I apologize.

And I really believe that during the beta process this forum's discussions shaped the final version of iOS 7. That's part of what makes me think the whole motion sickness thing was bogus—would've been addressed during that process. We got it nearly perfect—that was the point of the beta!

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to call two things one does not make it so
It can make it so if the one thing involves more than one thing. The setting is for reducing motion, and therefore by its name/definition it should reduce motion, whatever that motion might be--as parallax involves motion, it should reduce that, and as animations involve motion, it should do that as well.

That said, if you saw my earlier replies, I do agree that having separate controls would be better, but given the single control that is there now, the behavior that applies to it now in 7.0.3 is more consistent with that control vs. the behavior that applied to it before 7.0.3 (where it was really just treated as a parallax on/off setting, and not a general reduce motion setting as its name implied).

As for the whole beta process--in theory it is as you described it, but in practice it doesn't work out that way more often than not unfortunately. So nothing surprising there (again, unfortunately).
 
This.

I had parallax off because I don't like the effect, but I loved the animations, now I must have it on in order to see them :(
 
1. I'm allowed to like the animations.

2. I never said you had to like them, and I never said you were wrong for wanting to disable them separately from parallax.

3. If you can get apple to implement a change you will be happy with, then go for it.

So if he doesn't like it and doesn't care that other peoples preferences it's ok and if you like it and don't care about other peoples preferences it's not ok...

So in short if he doesn't like it you shouldn't and it shouldn't be the other way round... Funny people man... ###
 
I too am not a fan of parallax but I like the zooming animation. It doesn't make me sick at all.

Now, I'm stuck using parallax if I want the zoom animation? This is lame!

Why didn't they just add another toggle?
 
It is an objective fact that they have taken a toggle that used to control one (1) thing, and assigned it two (2). from a ui standpoint, this is regressive.

Well, animation is a motion! And so is the parallax! Toggle does exactly what it says when ON. It reduces these motions.

And personally I will never have it ON.
 
Animations are beautiful but, on my 4S, with reduced motion on and this "fade" new animation is all faster. Really faster. Keeping reduce motion active. Love it.
 
OK but answer this—why do we have to drill down into another menu to access a single toggle? I know the three-tap rule is no longer feasible, but does that mean we stop trying to optimize UI?
 
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