References to Next-Generation AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule Found

[8CoreWhore]

I agree, put Thunderbolt on the Base Station. A HDD connected there, and a GBNetwork = fast LAN.

OTOH, it may not be technically possible, as TB is an extension of PCI-E.

Imagine a Mac Mini with Server, and the guts and software for Time Capsule... and AppleTV all in one.

BOING!

I'm still waiting for an Apple built HDTV. Down boat me! It WILL happen! : )

 

[aleni]

I was planning on upgrading to a nice new dual-band n router running DD-WRT, but now I'm going to wait and see what happens. The wireless network extending functionality of the Airport Express is really tempting too. I always wished I could do that with my DD-WRT router.

i have 2 airport express, and the wireless network extending functionality is really helping my home clutter free

 

[Halon X]

Because of this, so when im downloading an app, it means for apple to waste 3 times more bandwidth and makes higher for monthly bandwith cost.

if i were steve jobs, i would make this new device can store iCloud locally and sell it for only $15-$20, so people who have more than one iDevices would buy this and they can even have 3 of them connected as backups in case of **** happening.

so subsidized money in new device taken from saved monthly bandwidth cost.

Bandwidth is cheap, especially at the capacities Apple is purchasing it in. Selling an AP/TC at $15 - $20 would be a much greater loss overall than any bandwidth costs ever would be.

I'd also imagine that any overhead such as bandwidth, data center costs, etc are factored into Apple's take from the sell of each app.

Also think about the cheap cost of their new Music Match and the bandwidth that will be chewed up through this. Most people I know have 100+ GB music collections. Apple is only charging $25 a year for the service. Cost of bandwidth is hardly a concern.

 

[aleni]

Bandwidth is cheap, especially at the capacities Apple is purchasing it in. Selling an AP/TC at $15 - $20 would be a much greater loss overall than any bandwidth costs ever would be.

I'd also imagine that any overhead such as bandwidth, data center costs, etc are factored into Apple's take from the sell of each app.

Also think about the cheap cost of their new Music Match and the bandwidth that will be chewed up through this. Most people I know have 100+ GB music collections. Apple is only charging $25 a year for the service. Cost of bandwidth is hardly a concern.

well maybe, but not for us with crappy internet connection. i paid $50 a year for a 1mbps download and 0.2mbps upload speed.

maybe iCloud isn't meant for me. but good thing is it backups app data

 

[LarryC]

Oh well...

I just bought my first Airport Extreme Base Station about two months ago

Oh well, it works perfectly and I am very happy with it.

 

[Jeaz]

It'll be interesting to see what updates they are planning, but either they have to add some really cool new features or seriously lower the price to make an upgrade worth it in my case. In particular, the Time Capsules have had a ridiculous price up to now.

 

[Prallethrin]

Ya, I agree with some people here that it would be nice if it acted like a mini-cloud.

Just in case your internet connection goes down for some reason. You still kind of have a back up.
Ya, I know rare scenario for the internet to die along with your device losing data.

Still it would be cool to have, your own personal mini-cloud.

Heck if there is a way to disable uploading to Apple, it will be good for people who want cloud functionality (syncing of everything) without having their stuff sent to Cupertino - limited to WiFi range of course.

 

[kennycheng93]

TC + Apple TV

What if Apple builds a TC with integrated Apple TV?

 

[ansalmo]

Hmmm, so this will only work if you route through your AE/TC? That's a disappointment, though I can see why that decision was taken as it makes it a whole lot easier to implement - there's no need of any tweaks at the client end to make it work, it's all done on the AE/TC.

For those of us that use AE/TC as an access point rather than a router, I wonder if it will be possible to make this work by pointing the software update addresses to the AE/TC in our LAN DNS? I guess not, though it would be nice if that did work.

 

[ArmCortexA8]

Well surprise surprise, just updated my AirPort Utility Software and now my current gen Apple Airport Extreme info says "AirPort Utility found an AirPort Extreme 802.11N (4th Generation)" Notice the "4th Generation" title has now been added, so 5th generation will be next.

 

[Reason077]

Hmmm, so this will only work if you route through your AE/TC? That's a disappointment, though I can see why that decision was taken as it makes it a whole lot easier to implement - there's no need of any tweaks at the client end to make it work, it's all done on the AE/TC.

I'd be surprised if they implemented it this way, actually, despite the wording of this article. More likely, the software update utility will simply know to look for cached ASUs on the local network automatically.

 

[simulacra]

Hmm, I was going to buy me an Airport extreme when I'm in the US early Juli, hopefully they'll be in stores by then, I rather not buy something that gets replaced a couple of week after I purchased it.

 

[colmaclean]

I need to postpone my flight to Titan for this.

Two weeks later...

I postponed my flight to Titan for THIS??????

 

[caspersoong]

I am getting mad of waiting... practically everything is don't buy!

 

[dawnrazor]

New APE for me once they come out. My 1st Gen is showing it's age, it's range is piss poor and it forgets who it is from time to time....

 

[NightFox]

... and one more annoying thing is when i download an app, it takes 3 times longer because the iPad and my wife's iPhone will download it too. if i want to play NOVA 3, i buy it, so now download takes 3 times longer before i could play it. and i know i can turn the feature off, but i don't want to call my wife at home and tell her to temporary turn off the automatic download, it's much of a hassle.

Not sure I'm understanding what you're saying here. Why would it take 3 times as long? With updates, one single download will take place over your slow broadband connection to your Extreme/TC. This will then be served out to your devices over your home WiFi which is going to be much, much faster. If you're not talking about Airport but just iCloud syncing in general, if you're not at home when you buy an app even if it does also push at exactly the same time to your wife's iPhone at home, you'll be on different connections so why would it be any slower? And it would only push if she has the same iTunes account as you anyway.

Sorry if I've misunderstood, full of flu at the moment

 

[GregA]

..a new A4 powered AEBS with built in iTunes server to act as a home media hub (very much in keeping with the home sharing concept) would be amazing

I was disappointed that Steve showed a slide saying that the computer was just another device now, and yet the subsequent demonstrations really needed a computer to sync to for lots of stuff. I couldn't sync a small subset of songs/photos to my laptop and free up a heap of space.

Ya, I agree with some people here that it would be nice if it acted like a mini-cloud.

Just in case your internet connection goes down for some reason. You still kind of have a back up.

Yes, that would be great. All my data on the Time Capsule, plus a backup copy on the cloud perhaps?

Hmmm, so this will only work if you route through your AE/TC?

Well, apart from their being nothing known at all... if it caches software updates then I'm sure a Mac or iPhone could notice a Time Capsule on the network, and try to get its software there if available. Apple likes the "zero configuration" stuff.

What if Apple builds a TC with integrated Apple TV?

I hope not.

If Apple builds a TC media server, then better to have the separate AppleTV focussing on displaying media and playing stuff straight from the media server. The 8GB cache on the AppleTV will make it as good as local.

Basically anyone who is 100% Apple is in for a real treat.

That'd be nice. A partnership between the iCloud and the Time Capsule would be brilliant. There are lots of other possibilities that others have already done that Apple could make easy too.

Even a simple mail/calendar/file server with integrated iTunes server would be great though.

 

[gekko21]

I am getting mad of waiting... practically everything is don't buy!

Agreed. I've been waiting since earlier this year to push the button on a new home theatre solution. Was going to go Mac Mini but it's been months of rumours as to when that will get refreshed. Recently, I've changed tack and pretty much decided to go Time Capsule, Apple TV, iPad. I've been waiting for the TC refresh (looks like soon) and now there are more rumours about new iPad updates later this year (not sure I believe those at the moment though). You really can't win and in the meantime, I've held off for months waiting to see what sort of media server solutions Apple would put out this year.

I think there comes a point where all the endless speculation backfires a bit for the company as my credit card has been secure in my purse for six months now due to it never being the right time to press the button. Also, I need a network backup solution fast due to an aging iMac that's crippled by copious amounts of media. If I don't order something by the end of this week, my other half has threatened to take me to the Apple store and ask for an upgrade .

 

[initialsBB]

And here's me just hoping the 7.5.3 update will fix the cripppled 7.5.2 update on my 1st gen AE...

 

[Hairball]

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Great products, but WAY too expensive. It'll be interesting to see what the new products and corresponding prices are.

 

[Menopause]

automatic downloading for music and apps is stupid too.

i hope this new device will act as a server, so when i download an app from my iPhone, when it finishes, the iPhone will upload the app to the new device and then the device will push it to my iPad and my wife's iPhone.

i know i can turn off the automatic download, but i'd really love to enable it without it consuming my internet bandwidth. and one more annoying thing is when i download an app, it takes 3 times longer because the iPad and my wife's iPhone will download it too. if i want to play NOVA 3, i buy it, so now download takes 3 times longer before i could play it. and i know i can turn the feature off, but i don't want to call my wife at home and tell her to temporary turn off the automatic download, it's much of a hassle.

apple will waste bandwidth too because of this, so when im downloading an app, it means for apple to waste 3 times more bandwidth and makes higher for monthly bandwith cost.

if i were steve jobs, i would make this new device can store iCloud locally and sell it for only $15-$20, so people who have more than one iDevices would buy this and they can even have 3 of them connected as backups in case of **** happening.

so subsidized money in new device taken from saved monthly bandwidth cost.

and about that instant stuff like u working a document in iPhone, do u really need it to be pushed to your iPad at home right away? this local iCloud is instant too, by the time u arrive at home and your iPhone is connected to wifi, the iPad will get the document too.

If you were steve jobs you'd leave your country with ****** internet, migrate to one where it's fast, where Automatic Downloads won't seem 'stupid' to you like it doesn't to most of us and stop complaining about things that don't work for just for you.

 

[Darlo770]

Faster hardware needed for DHX2 authentication?

..Not the only motivation for a chip upgrade obviously, but..

Seeing as Lion implements the AFP 3.3 protocol now, DHX2 authentication is mandatory, and (as i have found) not many NAS devices support DHX2 currently, as it does require a slightly more beefy processor.

This is probably one of the reasons for the coming refresh and rumoured A4/A5 chips. Not the only motivation for a chip upgrade obviously, but it makes sense.

Also, does anyone know what version of AFP the current gen' Time Capsules run? If it's <AFP 3.2, we can expect a firmware update before the release of Lion.

Time Machine in Lion requires no less than AFP 3.3. Reducing most current third-party NAS's to a doorstop in terms of Time Machine use, until those manufacturers release a firmware update to include Netatalk 2.2 (AFP 3.3 port) they're pretty much dead for Time Machine

 

[chaosbunny]

Anyone else still uses one of these:

 

[rdlink]

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Great products, but WAY too expensive. It'll be interesting to see what the new products and corresponding prices are.

Why, exactly, are they way too expensive? Can you point us to a device that does what the AEBS does for a much lower price?

 

[gramirez2012]

Good thing I sold my AEBS last week!

Anyone else still uses one of these:

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I sold one of those about a year ago for $60. Got it at Goodwill for $10.