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Seeing as Lion implements the AFP 3.3 protocol now, DHX2 authentication is mandatory
Apparently there is a Terminal hack to not require this. Though of course Apple would not expect people to use this with their products.
Time Machine in Lion requires no less than AFP 3.3. Reducing most current third-party NAS's to a doorstop in terms of Time Machine use, until those manufacturers release a firmware update to include Netatalk 2.2 (AFP 3.3 port) they're pretty much dead for Time Machine :(
Netatalk 2.2 was released on June 9 (http://www.netafp.com/netafp-netatalk-2-2-0-is-available-437/). Lion is still pre-release software and many will wait for a few point releases for any major bugs remaining to get sorted out and waiting for apps to get updated to work better on the new OS.

Then there'll also be those waiting to see if Apple will relent and offer a physical media alternative to get Lion.

Lion will not be worth upgrading to for many NAS users for a while.

Considering Lion is due for release in July there's still a bit of time for NAS manufacturer's to get Netatalk 2.2 into firmware updates though it may be pushing it to get it into production firmware before Lion's release.

One would expect NetGear or QNAP would be first looking at http://www.netafp.com/status-of-netatalk-and-afp-support-by-nas-vendor-322/

Having software updates cached by the Time Capsule would be interesting and a good feature. However if they cripple it by keeping a single non-user replaceable hard drive in it then many will remain not interested in the device.

I have an AEBS for my wireless N network, but I backup using Time Machine to a NetGear ReadyNAS unit.

To consider the Time Capsule, I would like the Time Capsule to have two user replaceable hard drives so one could use RAID-1 for redundancy. If one disk failed one could replace it to rebuild the redundancy rather than having to restore a backup of a Time Capsule e.g. to a new one. A good option for backing up the Time Capsule over a network or to a Thunderbolt peripheral would be good.
 
I wonder if Apple is going to provide a Time Capsule backup migration strategy. As of now if you buy a new Time Capsule (and are an existing Time Capsule owner who has been using it for Time Machine backups) there is no simple, automatic way to have the new one copy all your backups from the old one and seamlessly pickup where the old one left off.
 
My 15 month old Time Capsule was zapped during a storm recently - despite surge protection etc. etc. :mad:
Fingers crossed (dangerous I know) that I don't need a backup until the next gen comes along!!
Any of you guys have any ideas of timescale for new gen release or is it the usual 'hold your breath for as long as possible and pray that nothing fails in the meantime?'
 
'hold your breath for as long as possible and pray that nothing fails in the meantime?'

No one has any idea, unfortunately. Rumour is that supply is being constrained so hopefully it will only be a couple weeks. Maybe they'll wait until Lion is released.
 
Bad without a noose.

This is seriously bad unless there is major throttling of the automatic downloads. We have a very limited connection as is typical in rural areas. If the Airport decides to suck up all of our bandwidth it leaves us choking. I would want this to be turn off-able and for it to automatically throttle itself down if there is any other network activity. This feature should get lowest priority.
 
To consider the Time Capsule, I would like the Time Capsule to have two user replaceable hard drives so one could use RAID-1 for redundancy.

I think you're wanting more than the time capsule is intended for.

However, 2 synced time capsules might do that job. Perhaps a sync between 2 time capsules in different locations.
 
hell no, with 0.2mbps upload speed, my battery will be dead before it even finishes uploading.

I think you didn't get it. You take 100 MB worth of photos on your iPhone. You come into range of your Time Capsule, the iPhone uploads the photos to your Time Capsule within 10 seconds. The Time Capsule then uploads the photos to iCloud, taking a bit over an hour. It does that on its own, your phone is not involved after the first ten seconds. At least that would be the idea.

You'd even be able to download the photos to your iPad, as long as the iPad is in range of the same Time Capsule. If your iPad is somewhere else, you'd have to wait over an hour until the photos are uploaded to iCloud, and then wait again to download.
 
I wonder if Apple is going to provide a Time Capsule backup migration strategy. As of now if you buy a new Time Capsule (and are an existing Time Capsule owner who has been using it for Time Machine backups) there is no simple, automatic way to have the new one copy all your backups from the old one and seamlessly pickup where the old one left off.

Isn't there? Can't you archive and then manually copy the sparseimages? (EDIT: OK the restore could be better).
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1281

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this means it will download the updates without even asking you, which means if you're playing an online game at the moment you're doomed to lag :cool:

You don't give Apple any credit for being smart at all, do you?

These things aren't just developed at a whim by a random person at Apple, then released to an 'oops! we forgot about people playing online games!'. No - this is not how business works. Many people over many weeks/months in meetings decide on the features of a product, and find it's short-comings, and try to correct those.

I bet in the first few minutes of the first meeting about the next-generation Airport/Time Capsule, slowing speeds by playing online games was brought up, and my knee-jerk reaction to the solution is to look at network traffic, and not download updates while a computer is using the network - try to find a non-busy time.

There are reasons that Apple Engineers are one of the best.
 
To consider the Time Capsule, I would like the Time Capsule to have two user replaceable hard drives so one could use RAID-1 for redundancy. If one disk failed one could replace it to rebuild the redundancy rather than having to restore a backup of a Time Capsule e.g. to a new one. A good option for backing up the Time Capsule over a network or to a Thunderbolt peripheral would be good.

This is exactly what I have on my "NAS". It's actually a cheapo linux server with two RAID-1 1TB hard drives with LVM on top. It runs as Time Capsule and other stuff as well (http etc.) - at half the price of an actual Time Capsule. It's not as pretty but it's in my closet so I'm OK with that.

I think it's a form factor issue. In order to support two drives you'd have to make the Time Capsule thicker and that does not compute at Apple. :)
 
I personally would love to have a new generation time capsule if it will hold and serve my videos as well as music. iCloud had a glaring omission in TV shows and movies at the WWDC keynote.

My computer still isn't rebuilt since moving to the US, and with a time capsule that can serve/sync all media with my idevices, I don't see a real need to build it (apart from aperture, I guess, but I might buy an iMac for that eventually).
 
I don't think you can call the Apple engineers who designed the current Time Capsule 'one of the best' after all the reliability problems it has suffered.

This is like saying Luongo is not 'one of the best' goalies after all the goals he gives up every game.

Nothing is perfect. But compare the Airport Extreme / Time Capsule to all the problems with Linksys routers, and I can tell you Apple is much better. I know, I had many Linksys routers before, and they were all crap compared to my Time Capsule. I've had 0 problems with it.
 
It would be genuinely awesome IMO if they'd add iTunes hosting to the time machine. I don't mean it for external access but as a replacement for the Mac when watching you movies, listening to music on the AppleTV. Now you need the Mac and iTunes turned on to do that, which is a bit backwards IMO. Basically, make the TM a light media server.
 
I've had 0 problems with it.

I'm glad to hear that and I hope it's one of the later ones with the slower and cooler running green drives hard fitted.

The design of the Time Capsule case is very poor with no ventilation and a incorrectly placed fan which doesn't cool anything when it eventually starts spinning. The heat build up on earlier models which came with standard hard drives results in the capacitors in the power supply overheating and swelling over time causing it to eventually fail.
 
We've got ATT U-Verse, and we've got their 3Wire router/modem with it. I'm really interested in a Time Capsule/Airport Extreme, but I'm not really sure how well it would integrate with the hardware ATT provides.

Either way, Apple's doing exciting stuff even with routers, it seems, and that's cool to see.
 
More router functions, please.

What about adding more real "router" functions like QOS tagging (essential for VoIP applications), static NAT options, port triggering, and timed rules? These features are found on routers that cost less than half of what I paid for my AEBS.
 
If you were steve jobs you'd leave your country with ****** internet, migrate to one where it's fast, where Automatic Downloads won't seem 'stupid' to you like it doesn't to most of us and stop complaining about things that don't work for just for you.

LOL. I voted your post up! I too can't stand people complaining about everything!!
 
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Argh again. Another rumor. Means I should hold out at least another week. Current wifi setup not getting it done. And now that GF is back from being out of town, her hulu use must be taken into consideration. That is why I have two cable lines set up. But right now only one has wifi (AEBS) due to broken TC which was supposed to be connected to other line.
 
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