i'm a bit confused as to how apple refurbished their products. i'd imagine if someone truly returned a product that has a deficiency and they fix it, why can't they just resell that as new?
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Refurbished Late 2013 15-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Now Available in Apple's Online Store
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Apple refurbs are an excellent choice. There is literally no reason to buy new vs. refurb.
Same warranty, same return policy, lower price. Also some people actually regard refurbs as having a higher chance of being "perfect" since Apple goes through them with a fine toothed comb.
Same warranty, same return policy, lower price. Also some people actually regard refurbs as having a higher chance of being "perfect" since Apple goes through them with a fine toothed comb.
Uh you may be thinking of an iOS thread. Typically Mac thread posters are concerned with "gimme the best components for the money I'm spending". iOS threads can be comically sad with the name calling.
On topic: I've never gotten a refurb from Apple. Do they only fix what's broken or is it a near complete rebuild?
well the only downside is you can't exchange it. your'e at the will of the stock and you have to wait for shipping
correct...you can't send it back and ask for a same day exchange...but you can send it back and reorder....or if its a manufacturing fault you can go to any apple store and they will handle the exchange.
Anyway you are fully protected...and you save some serious coin.
i find that having the original box improves resale value. refurbs, in my experience, ship in plain boxes, not the regular retail box.
buyers *may* be just a bit more skeptical on buying one in a plain box. i'd suspect that the financial hit is minor, but you never know.
one can't legitimately claim 'original owner' status on a refurb.
If they sold it as new, they would run afoul of the lawyers. So they, by definition, cannot be "new".
Most of these (IR-Ghosting-Tint) refurbs are returned by OCD people (fuss pots) on this forum (like me) 
Proberly nothing wrong with them!
Proberly nothing wrong with them!
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Because strictly speaking it's not new.
Apple does, however, clean them up (or replace whatever pieces are dirty or dinged). So it's actually a pretty good deal. I have had great success with Apple refurbs. Other than the plain box instead of a glossy one, indistinguishable from new.
(My 2007 refurb MBP has a sticker inside the battery bay that says "Certified Apple Reconditioned" and it carries a special refurb serial number. That's the only visual indicator that it wasn't retail-new. I'm not sure if the unibody refurbs also carry a similar sticker inside, but if they do, most users wouldn't ever see it.)
My new 13" rMBP isn't actually an Apple refurb but an open-box from the local Future Shop. It was in flawless condition and $200 off retail. I don't know why the first buyer returned it (maybe they saw a yellow tint or IR that I don't?) but I'm not complaining...
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When will we see iPad Mini Retinas?
And from what I've come to understand, the only thing new on a refurbished apple product is the outside casing. Which is fine by me.
And from what I've come to understand, the only thing new on a refurbished apple product is the outside casing. Which is fine by me.
Two thumbs up for Apple Refurbs. The best savings can be found when a new model is released. The previous generation models which were the current model a day earlier, will drop an additional amount resulting in a total savings of $400-$600. I have yet to have any issues with an Apple Refurb.
In the UK Apple charge £1499.99 for a 13" rMBP with 8GB RAM/512GB SSD. You can find it as low as £1249 on sites like Amazon & eBay. The same applies for other Mac's. All brand new & sealed, obviously.
Buying direct from Apple is certainly not the cheapest option which is why refurbs are the way to go for a lot of people.
Given how many of the rMPBs have screen issues, I'd be worried about buying a refurb. I'm not confident Apple considers all the ones I sent back defective, but I definitely wouldn't want one with yellow blotches for 2000+ dollars. I guess you can always just send it back if it isn't to your liking though.
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If you are eligible for the education discount in the UK, you do get Apple Care (without the phone support) for free.
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If you are eligible for the education discount in the UK, you do get Apple Care (without the phone support) for free.
Difference between 2012 MBP Retina and Oct one?
I'm eyeballing the 2012 Retina MBP with 768 SSD. Is there a realworld difference between that MBP and the newer models. Yes, I know intellectually from a "spec sheet" perspective there is, but I mean in real world use - battery life, speed, etc? Because I have to say the price is really attractive on the Refurb and I can save almost $1K.
I'm eyeballing the 2012 Retina MBP with 768 SSD. Is there a realworld difference between that MBP and the newer models. Yes, I know intellectually from a "spec sheet" perspective there is, but I mean in real world use - battery life, speed, etc? Because I have to say the price is really attractive on the Refurb and I can save almost $1K.
Since you put it that way, i'll start saving up for the iphone 6s.
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Perhaps he's a student. I started saving for my 2013 retina model last winter. Why? Because I don't make a lot of money. Between my car insurance, cell phone bill, adobe cloud subscription and paying interest on my school loans, I have to plan in advance to save money.
You can go out and splurge the minute they're released? That's good for you. Not everyone has the same financial situation as you.
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When will we see iPad Mini Retinas?
And from what I've come to understand, the only thing new on a refurbished apple product is the outside casing. Which is fine by me.
Especially for an iPad. Whoever returned probably barely used it.
These are some really good deals! I'll have to keep these units in mind a little later down the road. 
Obviously most of these were returned for yellow screens. Does Apple usually replace the yellow screen or pawn off the yellow screen to refurb buyers??
Everyone seems to be really praising the Mac refurbs.
I've used two iPhone 3GS refurbs, and I was not happy with either one. One had a sunken-in display (most likely caused by having a damaged & replaced display), and the other was scuffed up with obvious signs of wear.
I've used two iPhone 3GS refurbs, and I was not happy with either one. One had a sunken-in display (most likely caused by having a damaged & replaced display), and the other was scuffed up with obvious signs of wear.
Seriously I gave up.
Listen to me folks, I'm not some crazy guy on the internet who has some idealistic measure of quality that Apple cannot meet. I had five of these notebooks and they all had issues with their screens.
I have have four previous Apple Notebooks, no yellow on any of them, I still use my current Apple notebook yellow free. I have an iPhone 5, no yellow. I have an iPad Air, no yellow. All perfect displays.
If you get one of these refurbs, good luck, because you will need it.