Regarding the new Mac Pro..

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Composer87, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. Composer87 macrumors newbie

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    Hi all, I'm new to this site as a registered user, but have been popping in and out reading all the threads for a few months now. Like you all, I am another mac pro waiter...desperate for the update to come out. Thought it would be worth mentioning that I spoke to a guy in the uk apple store chat service today about the new mac pro, and this is what he had to say...

    Me: there are so many people waiting for the new mac pro, it is getting ridiculous. i have been waiting since september, and had i just bought the mac pro then i would have had an extra few months use

    Me: it is a shame it hasnt been released yet

    Mick: I understand

    Mick: Hopefully there won't be too much longer to wait

    .....perhaps this is a hint to its imminent release???
     
  2. ErikAndre macrumors 6502a

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    Keyword: Hopefully.

    This genarally means he has no idea. Generally. I have a friend in Apple Sales and he hasn't said a word other than there's something big around the corner... but he did admit he is significantly limited to the knowledge of what's coming out, other than he knows his stock will be going up.
     
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    Oh boy, another very useful thread...

    - Martin
     
  4. Mr.Noisy macrumors 65816

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    Hopefully Translates as Never, there wont be another one, this is the end of the line. :eek: :eek: :eek:

    ..... i asked a couple of guys in UK apple stores about the release of the new MP's, 1st one said "no idea, don't know anything about a new mac pro" and the other one just said "I like the one thats available now, but i would like to see more updated version" both replies failed to put a fire in my belly that a new updated models due soon :eek:
     
  5. MovieCutter macrumors 68040

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    He doesn't know squat. Trust me, I worked in Apple Retail for 3 years...

    People need to get it out of their heads that Retail (or any other Apple sales) employees have any clue about future products. We usually just end up laughing at you behind your back after you leave because you think we actually know something is coming out...just fyi.

    The only people who know about new product releases are Apple engineers who sacrifice their first born to work there and are sworn to secrecy out of fear of losing their manhood, the marketing/printers for all the materials who don't give a **** either way, and the upper level execs and launch team members, none of whom are saying squat.
     
  6. dpaanlka macrumors 601

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    Apple Store employees probably know less than we do.
     
  7. Mr.Noisy macrumors 65816

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    In total agreement ;)
     
  8. MovieCutter macrumors 68040

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    The only time we get an inkling about what's coming down the pipe is if we have to do an "overnight" or swap a percentage of the store out when the store is closed. Depending on the size, we can usually determine if it's new product. Inventory specialists can also tell when a new part number pops into their system, but that doesn't reveal anything.
     
  9. chameleon macrumors regular

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    Are you saying "in general", or "in specific"?

    In other words, did he say "The only way I would know is if..."

    Or is he saying that he actually knows that his stock will be going up soon?
     
  10. Roy macrumors 6502

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    I talked with an Apple salesman in the Apple store yesterday and I asked him about what he knew about the upcoming new Mac Pro release. He said that if he told me, then he would have to kill me and he didn't want to do time for murder. He also stated that he would lose his job with Apple for telling Apple customers about new products in the Apple pipeline for which he knew nothing about!:D

    So I think we can bank on it that new Mac Pros are coming some time in the future. I can't wait for the future to get here!:)
     
  11. mcarnes macrumors 68000

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    :p 3 months is not that long of a wait. You should have been around in the G5 days...
     
  12. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Holy Steve in a handbasket. Are you Jonathan Ives? Have you come down from the highest...archy to speak of Apple's innermost secrets and desires?

    *shakes head fervently* Sorry, eh. It's just that when I read things like this after 12 years of waiting for my own personal workstation Mac that will be the most powerful single computer on campus at my college, I get a little antsy. You understand.
     
  13. Artofilm macrumors 6502a

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    Im waiting til MWSF 2008.
    That's the only reasonable time for them to release new ones.

    If they don't release one...I may have to make a high-end hack-intosh for myself instead.

    Seriously though, I know a few ppl who have already chosen to forget the MacPro because it doesnt have a release date. Professionals and businesses don't want to be surprised. They want to know when and how much so they can budget!

    Ahh, it's driving me crazy..my iMac can't make it much longer...
     
  14. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Hey, that is insulting to the retail electronics sales industry ...

    Just look at all the people trying to sell you a tv at best buy. OK, bad example.
     
  15. Roy macrumors 6502

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    3 months is not that long, but the original and current Mac Pro (one and the same) has been around since August 2006 and is at the same price as it was in August 2006. August 2006 to December 2007 is a fairly good amount of time when one speaks of technology.
     
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    that's a lot or reading, how many monitors are you running? :D
     
  17. Roy macrumors 6502

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    Exactly the reason Apple will never make it in the business world. Steve likes to keep everything "close to the vest" and keep everyone in the dark until he's ready to show his hand. It might make for excitement for consumers for when they might be getting a new "toy", but business doesn't like being kept in the dark in trying to make business decisions that might make or break their company.
     
  18. MovieCutter macrumors 68040

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    Professionals and businesses buy what they need when they need it. They don't usually care when a new update might be happening. The productivity gained from buying the current machine is far more valuable than a measly speed bump if it means waiting 3 months. I don't know what "professionals" people are talking about...

    If your iMac can't take it any longer, whatever "it" is, and you were running a business responsibly, the productivity you'd likely gain from buying a Mac Pro now would far outweigh sitting on your hands waiting for a 200Mhz speed bump in a phantom machine that doesn't exist except in rumor-world.
     
  19. Composer87 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Too many to mention :p

    I'm at my wit's end with all this hanging around...I'm waiting for the new MP simply for using Logic Pro and running highly processor- and memory- intensive orchestral samples (Vienna Symphonic Library)...do you think it's really going to be worth the wait for me? Shall I just give in and buy a current 8 core (may not even require an 8 core considering what im going to be using it for)? It's not as if the current models won't do more than I need them to. Any suggestions/opinions?

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  20. MovieCutter macrumors 68040

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    Depends on what you're running now. The new Mac Pro is not gonna be earth shatteringly faster than what it is now. You'll get a small speed bump, but it's likely what you're using it for...you'll have PLENTY of headroom as it is. Do you really think an 8 core Mac Pro with a potential 16GB RAM capacity isn't going to cut it for audio??? I'm running a 4-Core Mac Pro with 2GB RAM running DVCPROHD in Uncompressed 10-bit, which is likely far more intensive than what you're using it for. It performs beautifully. But more importantly, while some people have been sitting and waiting with much slower machines, I've been getting work done...in fact work that would likely pay for a NEW Mac Pro in the time most people have decided the current Mac Pro wasn't new enough anymore and started waiting.

    Are you sure you're not just waiting so you don't get buyer's remorse and the fact that you won't have the absolute newest, latest and greatest if and when the new Mac Pro DOES come out??? That's just bad business sense.
     
  21. TripleCore macrumors regular

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    If you have a paying client job that pays decent, getting a MacPro now would be the way to go--make sure you find one with a rebate though.

    If it's not a big paying gig, or can wait, then what is another 4 weeks to be on the safe side?

    Many of us are just bearing it out as best we can. I have some paying projects and a couple exploratory ones until then, and plan to enjoy the holiday break, catch up at the gym, etc.
     
  22. MovieCutter macrumors 68040

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    Without any information, another 4 weeks then risking ANOTHER 4 week+ wait is 4 weeks productivity lost. I don't care WHAT people do with their time. I'm just saying from a freelance/business/production perspective.
     
  23. TripleCore macrumors regular

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    Risk is not having another system right now to work on client projects.

    I was actually replying to Composer87...but...I am speaking from the same perspective.
     
  24. Composer87 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    To be fair, I am a university music composition student, so am not thinking in terms of making money. But productivity is certainly an issue, and as it is I am not able to carry out the composing I like and really need to be doing. I am currently using a single 1.8GHz G5 and it's just not cutting the orchestral samples...I'm constantly getting audio overload messages, and have tried many potential solutions, of which none have worked.

    To be put simply- the processor is just not powerful enough. I'm sure a quad core would make the world of difference...but it's about getting value for money. Why buy now when I will probably be able to get something twice as processor-powerful for the same price? But in hindsight, I wish I just bought the current mac pro in september at which time i had saved up enough money to be able to afford one.

    There's no guarantee it will come out at MacWorld...these are, at the end of the day, all just rumours....ahh:confused:
     
  25. Brianstorm91 macrumors 65816

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    :eek: I thought there had been an update from the title!
     

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