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Apologies! I know it's a tad late now, but I've changed the title of the thread lol :eek:

You might rename it as "new rumored..." since it's not quite out yet
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Professionals and businesses buy what they need when they need it. They don't usually care when a new update might be happening. The productivity gained from buying the current machine is far more valuable than a measly speed bump if it means waiting 3 months. I don't know what "professionals" people are talking about...

If your iMac can't take it any longer, whatever "it" is, and you were running a business responsibly, the productivity you'd likely gain from buying a Mac Pro now would far outweigh sitting on your hands waiting for a 200Mhz speed bump in a phantom machine that doesn't exist except in rumor-world.

You are talking about a professional looking to buy one or 2 macs. I'm talking about businesses that use a lot of computers. Not a true business, in the business sense, but I worked for the 10th largest school district in the USA and at one time Apple was king. Computer purchases by the district was in the thousands each year. But over the years, my district gradually switched from Apple to a more dependable source of computers and one with some idea of what they could expect next. The Windows option was more expensive, by needing more people for technology support, but the hardware options were better. Apple is almost exclusively a consumer orientated company now.
 
I talked with an Apple salesman in the Apple store yesterday and I asked him about what he knew about the upcoming new Mac Pro release. He said that if he told me, then he would have to kill me and he didn't want to do time for murder. He also stated that he would lose his job with Apple for telling Apple customers about new products in the Apple pipeline for which he knew nothing about!:D

So I think we can bank on it that new Mac Pros are coming some time in the future. I can't wait for the future to get here!:)


Wishful thinking. The guy nkows nothing. No one in Apple retail knows anything about new products.

The guy that's been "waiting since September"...that's nuts. He must not really need a computer.

It's reasonable to expect that a new Mac Pro is coming out soon, and it's likely to be tweaked. It will likely some degree of performance increase over the current models, but evolutionary, not revolutionary.
 
Yes... absolutely consumer oriented by their own admission. And doing quite well at it too...it seems like that must have been a good move.

Since the topic of this thread refers to Mac Pros, then the Mac Pro is a consumer computer and not aimed at professional?:confused::confused::confused:
 
Macaphobia

As far as professionals waiting for a new release, it rarely happens in business. We purchase what we need, when we need it. If a new version comes out a month later, if it is within our budget and the changes are signifiant enough, we upgrade again. We cant hold off on business waiting for something to "maybe", "hopefully", "one-day-soon" come out. We get it when we need it, or our competition does and we are left behind.

Speaking of being "left behind", I just ordered a Mac Pro set up for my work which set me back a little over $20,000.00 and am very nervous that it will be too difficult and time consuming to catch onto the Mac Leopard system after using PC's exclusively for over 20 years.

I had to have the sales person at my local Mac shop show me how to open and close a program because I couldnt find the little red "x" that I am used to on the PC's.

I feel like such a dinosaur, remembering my first Comodore computer, before they came out with the color version, lol. I guess I have a severe case of "Macaphobia". I m just hoping that I can catch onto this new system without it causing problems with my business as this is a very busy season for us and can not afford any "down time" with training.

Is anyone running a copy Windows on their Mac Pro? If so, what are the results?
 
The guy that's been "waiting since September"...that's nuts. He must not really need a computer.

Lol, I think other people have been waiting longer than I have....and remember, I currently am using a single 1.8GHz PowerMac G5...talk about old!!!
 
Speaking of being "left behind", I just ordered a Mac Pro set up for my work which set me back a little over $20,000.00 and am very nervous that it will be too difficult and time consuming to catch onto the Mac Leopard system after using PC's exclusively for over 20 years.

This might help...

Oops, sorry, the links are not working. Bad apple.

Edit: removed outdated link
 
Anyone else have a sinking feeling?

I know i'll probably be shot for this, but what if Apple are not planning on releasing a MacPro at MWSF. It is a consumer show afterall. remember that wonderful 90 minutes or so last year. Nothing but the iPhone!!. There are normally some rumours about products starting to appear. There is nothing on the MacPro. Not even rumours of different graphics cards or a possible speed bump. I seriously doubt there will be a case re-design.

With all the rumours about this life saving world changing ultra useless portable coming, I have a horrible feeling we are going to be left waiting again. As other posters have mentioned Apple Inc is purely a consumer company now, sadly the professional users seem to be forgotten about.

I would really love to be wrong, however I think WWDC is more likely, that way they can have a major redesign of the whole unit. Case, motherboard, Nehalem, GPU's, oh and give us bluetooth and wireless as standard, like they do all the other Mac computer users? Although as they have never thought the users of their Pro workstations worthy of such a feature I guess expecting them to change this is a little to much.

PLEASE DON'T KILL ME!

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Since the topic of this thread refers to Mac Pros, then the Mac Pro is a consumer computer and not aimed at professional?:confused::confused::confused:

Nothing about Apple is aimed at the computing professional, including the Mac Pro. Yes, it's a fast computer. Yes, professionals use it. But look at Dell's web site and look at Apple's. Look at the difference between Latitude and Inspiron, then look at the differences between MacBook and MacBook Pro. Then look at the differences between Dell's workstations and the Mac Pro's. Don't look at the machine specs, look at and compare how those machine are marketed, sold, and supported. A computer professional can't afford to have his/her machine be out of service. Where is Applecare's "next day, on-site" service option? If my Dell Latitude laptop goes down within the 3 year on-site plan I bought for $240, they'll be out to my house here in rural Minnesota day after tomorrow to fix it. If my MacBook Pro goes down within the $340 Applecare time frame, I'll get "yeah, either mail it to us, or bring it on over to the Apple Store". Nice, except a trip to the Apple Store means 4 hours on the road for me and a day off work. THAT is not appropriate professional-level support.
 
HMac, have to agree 100% with your post. Apples warranty service stinks. For the money we pay them I would have thought a 3 year plan isn't to much to ask, or do they know that so many of their machines will fail in that time frame, that they will lose a substantial amount of money?

Acer offers free 3 year coverage, granted it's mail in, but the experience of their phone support - that I have had - has been excellent, I got through in 2 minutes, yes minutes not hours!.

I guess it's all part of the "Apple experience" that we pay for.
 
I know i'll probably be shot for this, but what if Apple are not planning on releasing a MacPro at MWSF. It is a consumer show afterall. remember that wonderful 90 minutes or so last year. Nothing but the iPhone!!. There are normally some rumours about products starting to appear. There is nothing on the MacPro. Not even rumours of different graphics cards or a possible speed bump. I seriously doubt there will be a case re-design.

My new prediction, based on absolutely nothing, is that we'll see the new Mac Pros the week before MacWorld, on Tuesday. That way they can be talked about, but not take a lot of time. I'm also going to predict no case redesign, just a bump in specs. Again, this is all just my thoughts and guesses, I don't have any "sources." :eek: Just something to think about.
 
I'm waiting for the imminent next release as well but would happily buy a MP now. What's stopping me is that I want a new Cinema Display with a built in iSight. As I'd buy both the MP and CD together, I won't be buying either until they announce the new CDs. Until then I'm happy to keep using my PC desktop with CRT for my photography.

Anyone else thinking the same?
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Agree...

yeah I'm about on the same page as you. I built my PC about 18 months ago, so I'm still O.K. with computer power and being able to do everything I need to do. Getting a MacPro is more a want than a need at this point, so I'll wait until they release the latest and greatest, simple as that. (Of course I'd rather that be sooner than later).
 
I'm waiting for the imminent next release as well but would happily buy a MP now. What's stopping me is that I want a new Cinema Display with a built in iSight. As I'd buy both the MP and CD together, I won't be buying either until they announce the new CDs. Until then I'm happy to keep using my PC desktop with CRT for my photography.

Anyone else thinking the same?
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Oh you are going to be waiting a lot longer than you think if you want a camera in your Apple Cinema Display ...
 
Naahh, I think they'll stick em in there soon. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Looking forward to the imminent announcement of new CDs with built in iSights at MacWorld.
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Naahh, I think they'll stick em in there soon. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Looking forward to the imminent announcement of new CDs with built in iSights at MacWorld.
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In that case Apple would lose all the corporate market and professionals who work on sensitive cases and what not. No camera policy.

They might make a consumer line of LCDs and keep their professional ACDs though. That is as far as I am willing to stretch ;)

Besides, I doubt the majority of professionals even want a crummy 1MPixel camera embedded in their screen. Time will tell I guess.
 
I'm waiting for the imminent next release as well but would happily buy a MP now. What's stopping me is that I want a new Cinema Display with a built in iSight. As I'd buy both the MP and CD together, I won't be buying either until they announce the new CDs. Until then I'm happy to keep using my PC desktop with CRT for my photography.

Anyone else thinking the same?
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I'm thinking I don't want an iSight camera in my next pair of ACD's. It would make more sense to bring back the iSight camera with a slick way of attaching it to the top of the ACD.
 
I could image that after last years macworld with the iphone taking over that maybe this year they'd focus more on the real mac computing pro stuff again?

How about introducing new designs and cpu's for macbook pro's, mac pro's, new cinema displays. it's about time for a facelift. and then maybe there'll be a slimmer, more sleek macbook too (which is being called the sub-notebook on the blogosphere) and ontop of it all i don't mind if they do the tablet thingy.

But please please please PRO-STUFF this year. Let's not turn apple into toys 'r' us only.
 
If we see a phone, iPod or AppleTV for more than 10 minutes at a time I will cry.

In other news: Visit the link in my sig to petition for live streaming of MacWorld '08!

Here's the details.
 
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