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I can see putting the sleep/wake there...thats what samsung does and it works well...but that is a button that definitely feels more natural on top. There's a reason just about EVERY phone these days has a home button on the bottom center of the front...it makes the most sense

also, itd be a pain to use when holding the phone in your left hand (trust me, I have 2 phones, 1 is a samsung focus, and the sleep/wake is inconvenient to use when holding the phone left handed).

I do however like the touch sensitive idea, and changing the size to allow for a larger screen. perhaps even a software home button like on ICS
 
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*yawn* your lame attempt at an insult would be amazing if my iq was lower :)

How about this idea . have the option of using the proximity sensor to unlock the screen. Could assign its use by 3 clicks of home button. though i use that to switch white on black i'd be disappointed having to chose between them but most likely I'd choose the proximity unlock as I'd find that useful in a lot of situations.

Not trying to insult you...

This is an insult
you obviously lack the knowledge on how to push a button on the side of the iPhone without using both hands.

And if you are trying to get out of that one, read your previous posts and tell me that isn't true.
 
The majority of the display is touchscreen. Apples got to get with the current times and make a touch sensitive home button. It's so obvious it's silly.

But then again legions of their followers fear change. So it may always be an old school design.
 
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*yawn* your lame attempt at an insult would be amazing if my iq was lower :)

How about this idea . have the option of using the proximity sensor to unlock the screen. Could assign its use by 3 clicks of home button. though i use that to switch white on black i'd be disappointed having to chose between them but most likely I'd choose the proximity unlock as I'd find that useful in a lot of situations.

Not trying to insult you...

This is an insult
you obviously lack the knowledge on how to push a button on the side of the iPhone without using both hands.

And if you are trying to get out of that one, read your previous posts and tell me that isn't true.

Insult? Hmm show some manners, atleast read my previous posts.

now seeing as were movin into arguing with one another I'll bow out first cause in sure you don't need it either :)
 
I kinda agree with ZXXV's argument. If the phone were sitting somewhere, currently u can reach over and press the home button with just an index finger. What i dont agree with Is having to grab the phone with two hands just to press the button on the side.

ZXXV, it's still a one hand process. Just grab the phone with either hand. Its not hard to flip or swivel a phone with one hand. Yea grabbing takes more effort than just pressing, but thats not enough added work for me to not want to move the home button to side.

But again, I understand the point you were trying to make.
 
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*yawn* your lame attempt at an insult would be amazing if my iq was lower :)

How about this idea . have the option of using the proximity sensor to unlock the screen. Could assign its use by 3 clicks of home button. though i use that to switch white on black i'd be disappointed having to chose between them but most likely I'd choose the proximity unlock as I'd find that useful in a lot of situations.

Not trying to insult you...

This is an insult
you obviously lack the knowledge on how to push a button on the side of the iPhone without using both hands.

And if you are trying to get out of that one, read your previous posts and tell me that isn't true.

Insult? Hmm show some manners, atleast read my previous posts.

now seeing as were movin into arguing with one another I'll bow out first cause in sure you don't need it either :)

I honestly think you read my previous post as something I didn't mean as an insult, just saying how I would insult to show you the difference. Not trying to get into a fight of any kind. I was just stumped at how hard it seemed to be for you.

+1 on blakjack's post!
 
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It's ok :)

I was also stumped seeing as I'd sAid I could use finger thumb but know situations when I can't. Dryin dishes is another one where I can quick dry hand and touch button with little finger but gripping over phone with finger thumb I wouldn't because my hand maybe wetter than I'd thought.

For me I like the top down button. And like someone posted earlier what about left handed people? All this talk seems to be for a feature for right handers.

With the top down button feature I think it's more useable in more situations.
 
Keep in mind, I don't think anyone designs a phone based on how wet, or dirty, or whatever your hands are when you are using the phone.

I think removing the button is a good idea. I am not sure what I think about Apple's thoughts on removing it. It has become pretty iconic to the look of the iPhone, IMO, and I feel Apple would be hesitant to remove it. Also, Android phones are getting away from the hardware buttons with ICS (4.0+) and with Apple suing about how Android phones are copying iPhone, I am sure they wouldn't want to be on the other end of that specific lawsuit.

Of course, these are all just guesses, so take them as you will.
 
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I see what he's getting at though: If the phone is sitting on a desk, let's say, you can press the home button and unlock it without picking it up. If the home button were moved to the side, in order to have enough force to 'press' it, the phone would have to be braced against another object...or picked up...otherwise, it would be impossible to press a button on the side of a device.

Try it now with your own iPhone....can you successfully press one of the volume buttons with one hand or one finger with the phone on a table or desk? How about the home button?:eek:

Sure you don't need 2 hands to do it, but you don't need to pick it up like you would with a side-mounted home button.

Although I understand where both of you are coming from...that just sounds like some seriously lazy ***** when you really think about it.
 
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Lazy ? Another way of saying economical and efficient ;)
 
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Lazy ? Another way of saying economical and efficient ;)

Efficient I can go on board with. Economical? I mean I guess you may need to spend money on five less cheerios per year with the calories you might save. :rolleyes:
 
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Economical in movement. That's what I meant :)
 
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Economical in movement. That's what I meant :)

I was very surprised to find that the home button on the iPhone 4 wasn't capacitive like the majority of Android phones these days. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that Android devices have a patent for capacitive buttons on a mobile device, and it's common knowledge that any mechanical button requires more room to operate than a capacitive one.

That would be the ultimate in a less-work-to-operate plan.
 
I was very surprised to find that the home button on the iPhone 4 wasn't capacitive like the majority of Android phones these days. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that Android devices have a patent for capacitive buttons on a mobile device, and it's common knowledge that any mechanical button requires more room to operate than a capacitive one.

That would be the ultimate in a less-work-to-operate plan.

They are used for different tasks, thought. The capacitive button won't wake the phone from sleep. On iPhone, it can be used as a sleep/wake button.

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Economical in movement. That's what I meant :)

I know bud. Just giving you a hard time. :D
 
On the wish subject... How about a touch or pressure sensitive (both?) sensors embedded into the sides.

So no matter which hand holds it, both sensors will configure as they follow the contact / pressure. So when picking your phone up, pulling it from your pocket, or otherwise, it won't register false-inputs. Hell, tie it into the accelerometer, so it ignores input during specific movements. If they make it pressure sensitive - it will likely work through most soft-cases, or even wearing gloves.

I hate having to smear my fat thumb across the display when reading a document to scroll. Imagine if a little downward slide of your thumb on the side of the device could scroll? Not thinking blackberry rocker-wheel - hell no.

Watching a video - in landscape, pointer finger across the top edge forwards / backward and scrubs. (but my fat fingers obscure the cursor and I have to peek around to see the time display)

Listening to music, quick tap of the sleep/wake, and slide of thumb along the edge flicks tracks / albums.

Is nice to dream... :eek:
 
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