reMarkable's New 'Paper Pro Move' Takes on iPad Mini

[Eric_WVGG]

When Amazon releases a Kindle version of this is going to be killer. I have a Kindle Scribe but it's just a bit too big for portability. The screen and writing experience is delightful and is superior to an iPad for actual note taking and writing. Kudos to Remarkable for advancing the technology and lighting a fire under Amazon. Sadly I don't expect Apple to ever do e-ink.

If Amazon was going to, IMO they would have done it years ago.

 

[ChrisA]

First, let's admit it. iPads are mostly used for media consumption. Watching movies and YouTube. Or maybe web browsing. E-ink can't do that. This is a very Niche product

 

[tonie walker]

awkward size and expensive!, i tried the Pro though it’s a good device for writing but you will end up replacing the pencil tip often and OS is too limiting can’t render pdf properly and if you read ebooks, you will need separate device.

 

[cymac777]

Loved my RM2 - however it was impossible to read when darker. Remarkable Paper Pro with backlight was my hope for a solution, but it was HORRIBLE to use since the backlight was not strong enough and hence useless and most annyingly the screen refreshes 3 (!!) times after every input. Constant bliniking. If this new smaller one also has the same tech it is a useless paper weight.

That said, the RM2 monochrome with a strong backlight would be still amazing. The software is 10 times better than all the writing software for the iPad and it gives a clear folder structure and good sync capabilities for your documents. Loved that and miss that on my iPad.

 

[Rollinpebble]

I use my iPad Pro for note taking and use a magnetic screen protector that mirrors the feel of paper. With my hybrid schedule it’s way more convenient then a physical notebook that would require me to constantly replace. I spend a bulk of my work day on the phone with insurance companies writing down info by hand then adding my notes into the system after is a lot more efficient for me.

Writing with the protector on it doesn't require a grip of steel because the glass makes the pencil slide like lubed up skates on ice?
If that's the case, what screen protector are you using?

 

[contacos]

I don’t get it!

I can already take notes, do reminder lists, scribble pictures on my iPhone.

Why on earth would I want to take notes on this? Lumping the blooming thing all over the place?

It's a million times better to write on. It feels like you sre literally writing on a piece of paper. You don't really need to charge it and you can focus on one thing it does well, no other distraction by 4728282828 other features.

Another example. I used to have an iPad but I was never able to use it for reading cuz id just end up answering messages or surfing the web. That's why I also still got a kindle for one particular purpose = reading

 

[FasterQuieter]

I am happy to never see my feeble handwriting ever again, thanks.

 

[BigMcGuire]

As someone that has a collection of small moleskin notebooks and an extensive use of the Notes app, I will say that pen and paper just feels so much better and more intuitive to sketch out ideas

Love paper notebooks. I could never replace the feeling of Japanese Nolty or Campus paper with a Jetstream Uniball L refill… And I tried, I used iPad Pro, with a matte screen protector - just could never get it to work well - felt terrible, looked terrible - tried for years (I have almost 500 Notability handwritten Apple Pencil notes).

So I’m a pen and paper guy - despite being able to type 160wpm (I use OneNote and Apple notes extensively with pen/paper). I use them to complement my brain. Nothing like a blank sheet of paper to empty the mind - something I could never replicate with the Apple Pencil or typing.

I also don’t like the idea of having my digital handwritten notes on a service that may disappear tomorrow and/or charges a monthly fee.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I will stick with my tried and true iPad mini.

 

[Plutonius]

I would get an E ink watch for the battery performance but I have no interest in an E ink tablet.

I'm sure some people will like it and it will sell well although many will be turned off by a subscription.

 

[d686546s]

It looks great.

But in making something that so closely emulates paper does beg the question … umm why not just use paper?

Despite trying endlessly, I just can't get used to taking notes by typing. It just doesn't work for me.

I would still like if I could properly archive all my notes, categorise them and make them searchable.

I don't think this thing is for me considering the price and I'm entirely dependent on what kind of IT my employer provides, but I'd love to have something that enables handwritten notes that I can make electronic.

 

[Eric_WVGG]

am I alone in hating color e-ink? If you can't be good at something, don't do it!

 

[Pezimak]

I love the idea of this. Great device, no distractions on an iPad, a MUCH better screen for scribbling notes, and support promised for at least TEN YEARS!! Yes ten years.. and with a 2 week battery life it will still be going in ten years too. It is not a device they will be replacing every year with a new model.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Love paper notebooks. I could never replace the feeling of Japanese Nolty or Campus paper with a Jetstream Uniball L refill… And I tried, I used iPad Pro, with a matte screen protector - just could never get it to work well - felt terrible, looked terrible - tried for years (I have almost 500 Notability handwritten Apple Pencil notes).

So I’m a pen and paper guy - despite being able to type 160wpm (I use OneNote and Apple notes extensively with pen/paper). I use them to complement my brain. Nothing like a blank sheet of paper to empty the mind - something I could never replicate with the Apple Pencil or typing.

I also don’t like the idea of having my digital handwritten notes on a service that may disappear tomorrow and/or charges a monthly fee.

My note-taking is still done on a spiral-bound steno pad and an actual #2 pencil (non-mechanical). I've yet to find a better substitute.

 

[Pezimak]

It's a million times better to write on. It feels like you sre literally writing on a piece of paper. You don't really need to charge it and you can focus on one thing it does well, no other distraction by 4728282828 other features.

Another example. I used to have an iPad but I was never able to use it for reading cuz id just end up answering messages or surfing the web. That's why I also still got a kindle for one particular purpose = reading

Yeap, my iPad Pro is for media consumption and doing a bit of animation, Kindle I use for reading, I want one of these for note taking and making lists.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

am I alone in hating color e-ink? If you can't be good at something, don't do it!

I've never seen color e-ink. I know it's a thing, but it's pretty rare.

 

[Eric_WVGG]

I've never seen color e-ink. I know it's a thing, but it's pretty rare.

There's demo units at B&H Photo in NYC.

They look like old, faded, color newsprint, like the Sunday comics.

 

[Swissfashion]

The reMarkable Paper Pro Move is a device for focus management and therefore can’t be compared to the iPad mini and other multi-function tablets. Think of a reporter’s notepad in digital form. I have the Paper Pro and ordered this as a companion device for on-the-go when carrying the larger tablet would be impractical. As all data syncs between devices (with a Connect subscription) I can choose the device best for the task.

 

[klasma]

I’d like to have the iPhone with white bezels from that picture:

 

[mcscot]

So I've spent the last decade trying to get to a decent note taking solution, through every iPad size iteration / pencil / paper-like screen covers, and also all the different eInk devices (Sony/SuperNote/Boox). My current flow, and the one I'm actually using day-day for the last six months or so is:

* Remarkable Paper Pro for note taking. It is a great device and there are a number of features that are just well thought through in terms of a paper substitute. It also has an app for desktop and also iPad that lets me synch and read (but not annotate) notes and PDFs. I had the other eInk devices, loaded them up with apps, but never actually used the apps as the experience is poor!...

* iPad Pro (smaller one) for wider content consumption (News+, Video) and the ability to read the Remarkable notes (so I have all my notes, I just can't write on them, useful when travelling on holiday). I really don't like the Apple Pencil for not taking (noise and friction, bloody thing always drops off the device), but can see for many wanting a single device how it works.

Looking at the new Remarkable, I immediately thought "that would be cool", but then realised it would still mean carrying 2 devices round with me, albeit lower weight.

 

[dlopan]

Ipads have been doing this or similar since the first Ipad. Why bother.

 

[CapitalIdea]

I’m guessing it’s just easier to carry this device that basically has endless paper.

My phone also has endless paper. Notes.

 

[klasma]

This can't be right. An extra $50 to get an eraser? I'm not motivated enough to go to their site and confirm, as this is already a solution in search of a problem.

“Marker Plus has a finely textured finish for better grip and a built-in eraser.”

Also color and weight:

 

[spunkybart]

It's remarkable how cool these things look in real life

I was just looking at the picture and thinking that it looked really nice!

 

[klasma]

This is for people who like to write by hand. If you’re a type-first person, you’re correct, this. device might not be for you. The better question would be, is this a superior experience to doing the same thing on a iPad with an Apple pencil and pencil-feel screen protector.

I don’t know the answer to that - someone else might - but I think it’s a better question. 😀

The one clear advantage is that it’s more practical to hold the reMarkable with one hand without support while writing with a pencil in the other hand, than with the iPad mini, the latter being 25% wider (and also 25% heavier):