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Removal of iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Was Essential for Water Resistance, New Camera System
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I cant stand people like you that try to validate this. I dont know what technology with specific accessories you are talking about, but we are talking about mobile devices and headphone jacks here. You are clearly under Apples spell! Snap out of it
What about an idea that we ditch the old standard and create a new one? What if that device could work so that if a person who uses wireless headphones/other hearing device could simply press a button and he/she would now hear the other devices audio? Also for blind users this kind of standard would be much better because I can imagine it being a pain finding the headphone jack if you for example want to quietly use a computer at a library.
Then there are standards available, wireless standards. Available for at least 2 years.
Providing a headphone jack does not mean iPhone shouldn't provide wireless connection option. Blind can still use iPhone 6s with wireless headphone and press a button to switch between devices if applicable.
Holy **** man, just let it die. You don't have to carry around two sets of headphones. Take the included adapter and plug them into the headphones that you use and then when you want to listne to stuff using your headphones, plug the cable in. People are making a HUGE deal over this. It's like people used headphones 24/7 before.
Bluetooth has been around for several years, but if you walk up to a random device and want to use your bluetooth headphone with it, it's much more complicated than just pressing a button. For example with current bluetooth standard, if you walk up to a random ATM, you would have to put your bluetooth device to pairing mode, pair it with the ATM, do your thing, put your headphone back to pairing mode and pair it with your phone/computer/what have you.
But if could instead just walk up to a random machine... and it would ask you "Do you want to play the audio through your headphones?" Answer "yes" and it would just work. And afterwards you could just walk away and your phone would automatically continue playing music through your headphone.
Did you even read the post? How does a person requiring accessibility plug their lightning headphones in to an ATM?
Apple provide a 3.5mm to lightning adaptor but not a lightning to 3.5mm.
You should realise the amount of negativity towards Apple is a direct result of the path Apple is taking.
Would be nice if you communicated in a nicer tone
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Sure create a standard and switch to that, that would be great, bluetooth is one like you mention, so too is 3.5mm or usb-c.
Lightning is not.
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Validate? You all have been using a phone that has proprietary charging cables for years without a peep. It's a headphone jack. Wireless has been taking over steady for the past 4 years.
It won't be missed on a WIRELESS mobile device.
I believe that's essentially what the W1 chip aims to do. Apple is on the Bluetooth SIG board, and had a major hand in devloping BT 5. The W1 is likely a direct result of their work on BT and I would bet that the SIG board will be looking at ways to implement this kind of feature into the next BT upgrades. By that time Apple will have made their use of W1 to draw in new customers and leverage Beats for the Apple base, and then Beats will be poised to take advantage of the new tech for everyone.
Frankly, reliable wireless audio tech that does as you describe for blind customers at ATMs would be a step in the right direction. Imagine expanding it to cross walks -- instead of chirping signals one has to hear over traffic: guided instructions. Landmarks that identify themselves and so on.
Apples Lightning headphones can't even be used with Macs. There's literally no adapter of any kind that allows it to be used on anything other than and iPhone 7 and some newer iOS devices. So this is a bit moot.
Anyone who needs to connect their headphones to multiple devices throughout the day is going to be using the 3.5mm adapter with their old headphones, assuming they bought an iPhone 7 in the first place. Those that don't need or prefer wired headphones will be using AirPods -- oh wait ... I guess Apple screwed that one up too.
Oh well. Looks like it's adapter city for a while, or stick with the 6s. By the way USB-C is not like 3.5mm or Bluetooth. There is literally nothing on the market that supports it for audio. So what good does switching the USB-C do now? The same problem would still exist for the ATM user, except the headphones might also work on a new MBP.
Apple is pushing wireless, though they're not doing a very good job at the moment. Lightning appears to be a bridge for their devices, and clearly at the moment isn't for everyone considering how limited the support it has even with Apples own products. So wireless it is, and the W1 chip seemingly is going to make a difference as to how most people receive it. As I pointed out above, a wireless ATM makes much more sense for the blind.
By the way, in order to use TTY, a special headphone adapter is required already. So adding an adapter to the iPhone for use with the impaired is not any bigger problem than it was before. Wireless would certainly solve that problem for everyone, and eliminating headphone jacks from mobile devices will hopefully push the industry in that direction.
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The thing about the lighting cable is that everyone has one everywhere you go, so it has never been a problem.
Have you not been reading this thread? Maybe you wont miss it but peoole that use it for their profession absolutely do.
Lightning cables can be used on Macs. The 5K iMac comes with a keyboard and mouse that is charged with a lightning cable.
Lightning headphones can't.
And try using the Mac with Lightning for anything but charging.
OK, and your point? You still can't currently use Lightning headphones, or any Lightning accessory with a Mac -- and that is my point.
Lightning headphones aren't even cooled off yet and you're bitching about not being able to use them on a new laptop? Do you guys just find stupid **** to bitch about?
Really missing the point, still.
Apple provided Lightning headphones with the iPhone 7, removed the headphone jack from it, and there is no method to use them on anything else, including Macs, not even a hint. This has the effect of encouraging customers to continue using their old 3.5mm headphones with the inconvenience of the adapter if they want to use them with their MacBook (or anything else) -- and it's not even clear the New MBP supports audio input via the headphone jack. Add to that, the alternative cross-platform, signature wireless headphones aren't even available and nobody knows when. That's a pretty substantial failure for a tech transition that's so important for the iPhone 7.
And you still haven't explained how your two previous posts apply to this discussion at all, other than stating the obvious about unrelated features of Lightning.
Most people own a headset that is a standard port. You are aware you can still use those, right?
And my mention of the lightning cable was because you said you couldn't do anything with it, and I said you could. Learn how to read a response directed towards you.
I never stated anything of the kind. I have included my original post above for your convenience. I quite clearly wrote that Lightning headphones can not be used on anything else (not Lightning cables). I also clearly wrote in my most recent post to which you are responding that Apple is encouraging using told 3.5mm headphones -- so yes, I guess that makes me aware.
So if anybody needs to work on reading comprehension it's you. Have a good day now.