Are you aware how big EV battery packs are, and where they're located?
You'd need a forklift and a mechanic bay.
I believe sir Ive was also being sarcasticI wager the charging port is on the under carriage, requiring the car to be flipped over for access and charging.
edit: I'm being carcastic. I mean, sarcastic.
This was tried 20 Year’s ago, did not work out, and a lot of money was lost, not to mention the the los the people who bought the cars, that were useles.I would buy a electric car as long it can do this concept.
Removable battery pack - go to Station (like petrol station) remove the battery from the car like a long cubic shape and put them into the charging dock, pay for the fresh battery and install back to the car and drive off (all done in between 2-5 mins).
Just pay for the battery performance as low/medium/long mileages - that figure should include AC heater/cooling.
The tragic lack of software quality control at Apple would be my number 1 reason.Well considering, no one here knows what the Apple car possibilities offer, what reason wouldn’t somebody not want an Apple Car?
As a tesla owner I can safely say that time to recharge is easily managed. There are many times that cars sit idle.Removable battery pack should be tamper proof, drop safely & light weight and can be charge at home or replace quickly at the station if one see very low battery power.
Since we all live in very dynamic world, people need to move all the time no time to waste.
Amazon flex or Uber drivers will not like to wait for 30 mins to charge up.
Yep. Much easier to plug in to a super charger for 15 minutes.Yeah, over on Ars, there's a discussion about battery swapping going on. Some of the things they identified that you'd need to run a battery swapping station:
Forklift and mechanic bay or some kind of customized hardware to handle half ton packs safely.
Dedicated personnel to handle operations, like mechanics but also people to handle the paperwork for your leasing of a $10k battery.
Dedicated warehouse with multiple $10k battery packs, into the 6 or 7 figure range of battery pack inventory.
Workflow to handle transporting battery packs around different stations and to handle charging them.
Not to mention the technical challenges. Battery packs are actively heated and cooled so swapping will need to handle electrical cabling and also coolant lines.
Battery swapping is one of those things that seem ingenious at first, but end up looking more like solar roadways.
Are you aware how big EV battery packs are, and where they're located?
You'd need a forklift and a mechanic bay.
I bought a Tesla 3 last week. My first electric car. I'll never go back to gas. Utterly blown away. But if Apple ever comes out with a car (I'm still doubtful) I'll certainly check it out. Apple is often late to market yet seems to be creative enough to change it.
Even on the good old 1701-D they had a guy that pressed a button to accomplish that.Autopilot function? Finally, I can say Engage and it will actually do something...
The issue is clearly far more complicated than throwing a lot of computational horsepower at it. I don't see truly self driving cars out in the wild this decade. It's not like you can just have a minor bug, get notified and it'll get fixed in the next update. It's more like you have a minor bug, people die, and then you're Boeing having 5000 planes grounded. This stuff needs to be as safe as a pillow in bubble wrap, and I'm not confident we're even close to there yet. Even if statistically self driving cars would produce less accidents than conventional cars, people will go mad about every single incident of an autonomous vehicle running over grandma.I wonder if Apple is actually capable of doing what other companies haven't been able to do so far; create a fully autonomously car. My guess is no.
I disagree. When Elon Musk, also kindly known as the King of BS, can get rich on building electric cars so can Apple or anyone else with enough pocket change to enter the market. The questions is: will it ever be any good? That's indeed doubtful.It’s doubtful we’ll ever see one. The nonsense keeps going.
They would technically have to buy into an established manufacturer and take it from there, agreed. Hyundai has been floated as a possible partner for that multiple times. Considering most cars are made out of parts from other manufacturers it's highly doubtful any mass produced car out there isn't more brand than actual engineering.The list goes on. Apple isn't well positioned to succeed in the EV market.
I’m replying solely so I can come back to this comment’s terrible aging in a few yearsIt’s doubtful we’ll ever see one. The nonsense keeps going.
There’s already plenty of competition. Just about every major car company has released or will soon release a bevy of EV’s and we’ll even see a pickup from Ford before Tesla. This is significant because more pickup trucks are purchased by the most hypocritical and entitled generation who claim to care the most about the environment than any other generation.True. The Prowler and Viper reportedly didn't have air conditioning because having it 'robbed' power from the engine. I was amazed, when I bought my first car, that turning on the AC caused a noticeable change in idle. Ironic that as 'climate change' causes more heating in the environment, more people will be driving with their AC on, increasing pollution out the tailpipe.
The second car I owned had a 96 horsepower motor. I used to joke that the only way I could pass people on the highway was with a tailwind and going down hill. The air conditioner was a joke, and I rarely used it. It seemed cruel to even have it installed, as using it was like adding a couple hundred pounds of weight for it to haul around. Most owners actually disconnected it, and used a shorter fan belt to totally bypass the compressor, and got a spike in MPG.
To leverage the electric car, get the most from it, people should expect to have to make some compromises. The US automakers watered down electric, and 'hybrid' cars adherence to 'old car habits' makes them kind of a joke. An electric car doesn't need electric seat warmers, AC, etc. An electric car needs performance, and efficiency. Anything that robs from that is counter productive. Adding such fluff and performance stealing extras should make the average car shopper wonder what they are getting. (A hubbled throwback with 'all show and no go', or a serious attempt to make a serviceable car that provides more than lip service to people concerned about our future) *shrug* But if it doesn't have AC, etc, would it sell. Maybe not, but then, compared to the state of the environment, the electric car market is pissing into the wind. The forces of global climate change are roaring forward like a freight train, and this electric car market is kinda like waving your hands to stop it. We need meaningful change. Like I think asphalt is heavily contributing to warming, and no one is addressing it. People aren't even saying it doesn't, which makes me think that it's a 'protected industry', unironically linked to fossil extraction conglomerates.
I DO hope that Apple releases an electric car. I think it really could be a game changer. I think that it will end up being elegant, from a technological sense, and meaningful from addressing appeal for electric cars. I hope it's not full of meaningless drivel like 'self-driving' and other 'too soon' sparkles. I mean, some might be nice, but like in the flying industry, people have been telling pilots not to rely on their automation as much for years. Adaptive cruise control is frightening. All of that 'tech' is frightening in the short amount of time that a driver has to react when it doesn't work as designed.
Go Apple!!! I will have an open mind on whatever they come up with. Competition in that market is going to be fantastic. The industry can't be controlled by one erratic voice. There was an article I came across that mentioned how many times the Tesla has been recalled. Yikes... Talk about 'public beta testing'?
This was tried 20 Year’s ago, did not work out, and a lot of money was lost, not to mention the the los the people who bought the cars, that were useles.
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Which may be the case, but if it is why would the ride-hail providers sell the vehicles to end users, then turn around and have to pay the end users to use the vehicles in the ride-hail service, when they could just cut out the middle man, so to speak.The discussion I find here is basically the same as on the Tesla forum.
Making, selling and owning a car is part of the bigger picture called "personal mobility".
Four aspects that play a major role:
1. Enjoying a car, Fahrvergnügen etc. has a lot to do with controlling the car
2. The joy of manual mode has a lot to do with car ownership, design, performance etc.
3. If you can't control (don't have to steer) the car, why own the car?
4. If you don't own the car, a driverless vehicle can be more utilitarian
Below is a depiction how car automation may "disrupt".
Have the money to own a car (many do), hang on to one (or two).
Don't have the money, or the parking space like in many Asian and European cities,
and my prediction is that (subscription-based) personal mobility through AVs may
well turn out to be cheaper than Public Transport!
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