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Report: Apple Developing Custom Batteries for Launch in 2025
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There are three people in the world that care about this, and they are all on this site..
Seriously though, what's the big deal?
Again, electric cars are not safe due to Lithium-ion batteries.
Massive opportunity — great use of r&d. An entirely new battery technology not reliant on materials from certain countries would be very disruptive.
I for one think this is great news. The world’s largest and richest tech company should be pushing the boundaries in all areas. They’ve already disrupted the CPU industry with SoC, if they can make a giant leap in the battery game, it will benefit everyone and the planet in the long run.
Incredible how everything thinks it shows their sophistication by claiming that batteries haven't improved in 30 years, or that this is impossible.
If you want to say improvements in density have been limited over the last TEN years you'd be closer to accurate. But over the past ten years other features, like safety, lifetime, and fast charging have been a higher priority.
As for improvements, you'd have to be living under a rock not to know that the next buzzword in batteries in LiIon solid state batteries, and that Toyota claims to have achieved stunning results with these (... in the lab..., which is why you can't buy them right now.) https://www.pcmag.com/news/toyota-inks-deal-to-mass-produce-solid-state-ev-batteries-with-932-mile
It certainly is not impossible that Apple could spend the money to commercialize this tech faster, for Apple purposes.
Of course, in true internet fashion, the general response will be fury that Apple batteries cost twice as much while ignoring the benefits/quality you get for that twice as much...
If you want to say improvements in density have been limited over the last TEN years you'd be closer to accurate. But over the past ten years other features, like safety, lifetime, and fast charging have been a higher priority.
As for improvements, you'd have to be living under a rock not to know that the next buzzword in batteries in LiIon solid state batteries, and that Toyota claims to have achieved stunning results with these (... in the lab..., which is why you can't buy them right now.) https://www.pcmag.com/news/toyota-inks-deal-to-mass-produce-solid-state-ev-batteries-with-932-mile
It certainly is not impossible that Apple could spend the money to commercialize this tech faster, for Apple purposes.
Of course, in true internet fashion, the general response will be fury that Apple batteries cost twice as much while ignoring the benefits/quality you get for that twice as much...
You might still be able to use third party batteries with reduced battery life, unless they throw a proprietary controller in the battery which is prohibitively expensive for anyone else to copy...
I guess it's up to one's definition of "slow". Tripling in 10 years seems pretty impressive to me. I think the problem is that people get board by linear. Moore's Law and that compound interest song from Mary Poppins have people excited about exponentials. But linear with a good slope isn't bad.
Energy density of gasoline is a good reminder of how much energy we're truly able to store in these. Another good reminder is that those pineapple looking hand grenades from WWII hold about 50-60Whr of energy. A Macbook Pro basically holds two hand grenades that are just discharging a bit more slowly than a weapon would.
I hope they can finally move the iPhone up from a 500 cycle rating to at least 1000 like most of their other major products, from the Watch to the Macbook Pro. That was also my hope with the stacked battery rumour that didn't pan out for the 15. It's the only real wear item on the phone and probably the single biggest cause of a lot of waste.
Custom módem with a custom battery? Yes please. The power savings hopefully should be enormous
Apple is developing custom batteries with significantly improved performance that it aims to bring to its devices starting in 2025, ETNews reports.
Apple's custom battery technology has reportedly been in the works since 2018, with the company actively seeking patents and hiring new personnel related to the project. The company is reportedly seeking to create an "all-new" kind of battery with significantly improved performance by becoming directly involved in its use of materials.
Apple is apparently curating the battery's cathode materials to determine its performance, energy density, output, and stability. The battery apparently uses a completely different composition from those that currently exist on the market, adopting a new composition of nickel, cobalt, manganese, and aluminum.
The company is considering the use of carbon nanotubes to improve the conductivity of battery materials, delivering better performance from lesser-used battery materials. Apple is also looking to increase its battery's silicon content, replacing graphite to increase capacity, and shorten charging and discharging times.
The result is expected to be an innovative battery type that has not yet been commercialized. A source familiar with Apple's plans suggested to ETNews that the Vision Pro headset has dramatically increased the company's need for high-performance batteries. The headset features just two hours of battery life. Other devices such as the Apple Watch and iPad have been left with the same "all-day" battery life since their introduction.
Apple's custom battery project was reportedly co-developed with the company's electric vehicle project, but the mobile applications are now the main target for the technology. It is expected to begin being added to Apple devices starting in 2025.
Article Link: Report: Apple Developing Custom Batteries for Launch in 2025
Again I said hopefully because knowing the modems are built on intel tech which is absolutely dog 💩 🤣
This is great! But unfortunately likely limited to ’Pro’ and ‘Ultra’ lines for first couple of years if released under Tim Cook, especially as the points of differentiation between the various lines become smaller and smaller over the years (low hanging fruits picked a while ago…).
Nothing is without risk, but did you know how the engine in a gas powered car works?
It's internally combusting. It has a relatively higher rate of catching fire than eletric cars...
No, Millions of Cars Are Not Catching Fire Every Year
A New York Times story about U.S. car fires references a study that gets the frequency wrong by a factor of at least 60.
Also, Lithium is as old but gold as it gets. think about how many laptops, smart watches, smartphones are out there all at once right now.
Good question about how Apple would implement an improved battery. I'd guess possibly both smaller and more run time. Kind of the way Hybrid car tech works.
But I disagree that batteries are a sustainable energy source. First, there is a limited supply of materials, same as oil. Second, those access to those materials is largely owned by China, who has been buying land in every place they've been found. Geopolitical concerns re: war with Taiwan would be a large risk factor. Third, depleted batteries contain multiple hazmat, and disposal is a huge and growing problem.
No one is suggesting any other alternatives to batteries for portable devices, so sustainable or not, they're here to stay for the foreseeable future, I'll grant you that!
Nothing you say is untrue. And sure there are more fires and explosions in IC vehicles than EVs (but less than hybrids, according to the article you provided). But we're talking about phones & consumer electronics here. And just for snicks and giggles, why not check out this episode of Mythbusters Jr. about lithium batteries?:Nothing is without risk, but did you know how the engine in a gas powered car works?
It's internally combusting. It has a relatively higher rate of catching fire than eletric cars...
No, Millions of Cars Are Not Catching Fire Every Year
A New York Times story about U.S. car fires references a study that gets the frequency wrong by a factor of at least 60.www.caranddriver.com
Also, Lithium is as old but gold as it gets. think about how many laptops, smart watches, smartphones are out there all at once right now.
Actually ICE cars catch fire at a greater rate than EV cars:
Study: Electric Vehicles Involved in Fewest Car Fires - Kelley Blue Book
A new study shows that hybrid-powered cars are more likely to catch fire than gasoline-powered cars or electric vehicles.
www.kbb.com
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Right, batteries store the intermittent energy produced by said sources.
Actually the recyclability of EV batteries is one of their strengths. They can recover 95% of the material and the companies in the U.S. doing it are already profitable. Great video on one such company: