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Report: Apple Discussed Buying Mistral AI and Perplexity

CyberGene said:
I jumped on Perplexity mainly because I snagged a free Perplexity Pro account when I signed up for Revolut Premium—it was like a dream come true! I’ve totally ditched DuckDuckGo (or Google, or whatever search engine you’re into). The deep research feature in the Pro account is seriously amazing.
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shansoft said:
I do not understand why would anyone bother with Perplexity? That company is heavily overvalued and provides no benefits or innovation to the existing technology, especially you can easily have a LLM+Web Search on your computer with only a few click. Langflow + Qwen3 + DDG MCP get you the entire setup for free. Some 1 click installer like Ollama or LM Studio even includes the search function within now as well. Not to mention with Perpexlity's recent bad business practice by ignoring the robots.txt on purpose.

Pretty much the company worth nothing to begin with.
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I too got a year's free Perplexity Pro sub, and have ended up basically ditching Google. Using Claude Sonnet, Perplexity is ok? The writeup is 50/50, or maybe 60/40, but the list of sources is great. I get better search results using Perplexity than with Google.

In all but a few very specific cases, Perplexity is a thousand times more useful than ChatGPT, or any other web chatbot, or any search engine.
 
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Mistral, please, stay away from Apple. Stay in France and Europe, as independent as possible. Apple is so dumb with AI the only thing they are able to do is buying something. Don’t fall in that trap.
 
Regardless of Apple acquiring a larger Ai company, the smaller AI acquisitions it has made are a good sign in what direction they are going in what each specializes in. All of its recent AI acquisitions look pretty good on paper.
 
Shouldn’t be allowed. These giant tech companies are too big and it’s stifling innovation and the job market

The fact that Apple was beaten to this by companies so much smaller shows that we need smaller companies to succeed and grow

Apple has become its own version of IBM
 
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maxoakland said:
Shouldn’t be allowed. These giant tech companies are too big and it’s stifling innovation and the job market

The fact that Apple was beaten to this by companies so much smaller shows that we need smaller companies to succeed and grow

Apple has become its own version of IBM
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This 👆

We're reaching the end zone here on letting all this consolidation and monopolization take place and being reminded of exactly why it's not good and should not be allowed.

Apple has turned into a big 'ol steamship that can barely do anything but power straight ahead on its existing course. Making any "turns" requires huge distances, and it happens slowly, if at all.
 
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Hopefully next week's dog and pony show (Apple event) does NOT have a bunch of deceitful lies like last years event with false images of something working that did not even exist. I was more than angry when the truth came out having bought two iPhone 16 Pro Max units. Our iPhone 13 and 14 Pro Max units were working just fine, but at least family members got them.

Do not worry Tim, we will probably not buy any new Apple products for many more years. We will have to wait until the following year to see if those models actually do what was claimed and perhaps buy them then or not at all.

I was an early adopter for many years and have lots of Apple gear. Been a customer since 1990. A business is in decline if they loose long established customers because of deceit.
 
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Apple will be fine. The many Apple enthusiasts will see it remain as popular as ever. It lives off of not being Microsoft. It's currently stagnating share price rise waiting for Facebook (lol meta) and Google to catch up valuation wise. That search agreement evidently didn't mean much to apple, who pulled the rug out from under it and gave its potential gains to OpenAI instead. Back in my day, when you got into bed with people, you could turn out the lights. It's a brave new world. Apple will be fine
 
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Another +1 on a free year of Perplexity Pro here. It's incredible.

Not sure I want Apple to possibly ruin it, although it is exactly what they need.
 
Steve01234 said:
consider if Apple had bought Tesla 5-6 years ago, making Tim Elon's boss 🤯 especially if Elon was let go entirely . consider how differently the current timeline would of played out -
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2x prices of the cars
$19.99/mo subscription required for dashcam/sentry mode
supercharger blocked off from all other EVs
proprietary charge port that will never be standardized
lidar making cars ugly that adds unnecessary bloat and costs to making a car self drive

that timeline would be awful
 
Dirk Pieters said:
Things like steering wheel indicator buttons, windscreen wipers which rely on camera vision instead of a rain sensor and the lack of parking sensors.

Sounds like the average piece of Apple hardware to me! :cool:
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stalks are back
ultrasonic parking sensors are terrible, bumper cam fixes all of that.

only valid criticism is camera vision wipers. indefensible.
 
Bungaree.Chubbins said:
I too got a year's free Perplexity Pro sub, and have ended up basically ditching Google. Using Claude Sonnet, Perplexity is ok? The writeup is 50/50, or maybe 60/40, but the list of sources is great. I get better search results using Perplexity than with Google.

In all but a few very specific cases, Perplexity is a thousand times more useful than ChatGPT, or any other web chatbot, or any search engine.
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The point is, you don't need Perplexity to achieve all that. You can pretty much plug any search engine to LLM to make the same thing or better. MCP just become widely available recently to make it even easier to achieve it. Perplexity is only relevant before MCP / Langchain or Langflow into the market.
 
shansoft said:
The point is, you don't need Perplexity to achieve all that. You can pretty much plug any search engine to LLM to make the same thing or better. MCP just become widely available recently to make it even easier to achieve it. Perplexity is only relevant before MCP / Langchain or Langflow into the market.
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How recent is this? I've tried using Ollama + Chatbox for doing web search queries, and it was a dreadful experience, no matter the LLM I used. What combination of apps and services do you need to cobble together to make it halfway useful?

Perplexity mightn't be anything particularly special, but it works well with no faffing about.
 
germanbeer007 said:
You're saying Tesla lowered production? That's hilarious.



Completely ignoring the new Model Y L that's just released, also production changeovers for new refreshes of Model 3/Y. Nice.
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If I decide to make 10 iPhones a year, I am sold out and cannot make enough to meet demand! Wahoo!

Releasing new products always show an initial sales bump but Tesla is on track to have lower sales this year than 2024.

And you're missing Tesla's biggest problem, loss of brand value. Elon's political stunts have lost him more goodwill and customer loyalty than anyone could've imagined. Tesla is in for a rough next few years.
 
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wigby said:
If I decide to make 10 iPhones a year, I am sold out and cannot make enough to meet demand! Wahoo!
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Imagine selling 10 Model Ys makes it #1 best selling car in 2023 and 2024, globally...? lol.

I'll say this again: "You're saying Tesla lowered production? That's hilarious.". Tesla did not lower production to create "artificial scarcity".

wigby said:
Releasing new products always show an initial sales bump but Tesla is on track to have lower sales this year than 2024.
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Inventory of old models sold out in many markets in usa.

Tesla is on track still having Model Y be #1 best selling car in the world.

wigby said:
And you're missing Tesla's biggest problem, mindshare. Elon's political stunts have lost him more goodwill and customer loyalty than anyone could've imagined. Tesla is in for a rough next few years.
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Yet, configuring Model Y today availability is now 4-5 weeks out in usa.
 
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germanbeer007 said:
Imagine selling 10 Model Ys makes it #1 best selling car in 2023 and 2024, globally...? lol.

I'll say this again: "You're saying Tesla lowered production? That's hilarious.". Tesla did not lower production to create "artificial scarcity".



Inventory of old models sold out in many markets in usa.

Tesla is on track still having Model Y be #1 best selling car in the world.



Yet, configuring Model Y today availability is now 4-5 weeks out in usa.
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#1 best selling car globally??? It was best selling EV CAR until BYD ate their lunch. You just laughed at the idea of artificial scarcity and then quote availability at 4-5 weeks. That's laughable. And you ignore Tesla's biggest problem, brand. No one likes Elon or Tesla anymore except for sycophants and investors. Good luck.
 
germanbeer007 said:
You're saying Tesla lowered production? That's hilarious.



Completely ignoring the new Model Y L that's just released, also production changeovers for new refreshes of Model 3/Y. Nice.
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Recent sales of MY are only slightly up from the previous version. There was very little impact of the model.
 
Tagbert said:
Recent sales of MY are only slightly up from the previous version. There was very little impact of the model.
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there is zero mention of exact timeframe in your comparison and you're not even mentioning which versions you're talking about, so I'm going to assume this is something you randomly guessed.
 
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