Maybe start with changing your own oil and spark plugs?
What's the analogue for a cell phone? Maybe, idk, the battery?
Maybe start with changing your own oil and spark plugs?
Look, I’m not interested in a facetious conversation here. There is a lot of risk to disassembling a smart phone press connectors are fragile, that’s the reality of the situation. There’s a lot more to getting into a battery on a smart phone then you’re letting on. It’s the wrong device category to learn these skills on.What's the analogue for a cell phone? Maybe, idk, the battery?
So you did the are you happy to see me ...Umm, I've been carrying a cell since 1999 and I've never clipped them to my belt. That always looked too dorky for me.
I’m in the same boat with my mechanical work. I’m an IT systems administrator so it’s fun for me to work on mechanical things when I’m done dealing with technological things for the workday.I'm a pretty talented mechanic, though I haven't officially worked as one since college (I'm in healthcare, now). Anyway, I still enjoy working on my vehicle and my collection of various older machines and implements. I change my own oil, transmission fluid, brakes, tune-ups, all that. I've does timing belts, timing chains, and even engine builds and rebuilds in my garage. Working on a car is relaxing after dealing with the inside of a hospital all week.
Anyway, I think a cellphone is infinitely harder to work on than even the most modern vehicle; tiny screws, tiny clips, fragile ribbon cables, etc.. I can still do it, but I don't like it and it stresses me the F out.
I'll leave my battery replacements to Apple.
lol there are too many people that actually still say this for it to be read as sarcasm by defaultLike, didn't we used to have replaceable batteries in the days of 'dumb' phones? I always carried a spare with me - and my battery used to last for a week!
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Note: I posted this comment before my morning coffee, and it wasn't intended to be taken seriously. However, seeing that several people have quoted me, I realize I should clarify that this was meant as sarcasm.
Well, it isn't. So you have a choice to make. Buy 4 tools, or don't. There's no reason for people to be questioning why Apple does it the way they do. They design the phones, so they design them how they want. You can choose not to buy them if it's that big of a deal.Yes, you are stating the obvious. Tools are required to open and work on the phone. But the difference is it could be one tool instead of four.
People just can't deal with a company doing something in a way they don't like. They want laws changed and everything else. It's goofy. No one is forcing you to buy Apple products. If you don't like how they do something, don't buy it. It's pretty simple.That’s like complaining that torx drivers exist when you prefer to use a Philips head.
Pentalobe is in no way proprietary and a good screwdriver for it costs like $8. If you’re the type of person who actually repairs stuff you’d have bought one years ago…
Kinda sad to read this, you actually said real truth. Maybe you need to cut on your coffee for a week or so? I have replaced it with some nice water+lime+tea mix and can tell that having a week-long battery life is cool. My Galaxy M33 (2022 phone!) could work for 4 days of usual smartphone use before I drowned it in a toilet lol.Note: I posted this comment before my morning coffee, and it wasn't intended to be taken seriously. However, seeing that several people have quoted me, I realize I should clarify that this was meant as sarcasm.
And yeah, replaceable batteries and waterproofing are compatible,
I wonder how do these people replace lightbulbs at home🤔Look at the thread, tons of users seem to be mystified by how to use a screwdriver 🤷♂️
No one is arguing directly that they are exclusive. There would just have to be trade offs made in the design process. So what are you guys willing to trade off to get to that goal, and do you think consumers en masse are if the same mindset?Of course!
I can't believe anyone is arguing that we can't have swappable batteries because of "dust" or "water proofing" concerns.
Absolute nonsense
Anything fr. It is Apple and I am sure they know how to make things look beautiful and functional at the same time. We could have had 1 year long battery life if batteries used plutonium instead of lithium, but I doubt anyone wants to glow at night. Also, notches are tradeoffs too, aren’t they? These things have always looked ugly and distracting, yet Apple says that everyone needs a selfie camera and Face ID (I doubt it, fingerprint scanner built in Apple logo on the back could suffice)No one is arguing directly that they are exclusive. There would just have to be trade offs made in the design process. So what are you guys willing to trade off to get to that goal, and do you consumers en masse are if the same mindset?
I'm asking for a real answer.Anything fr. It is Apple and I am sure they know how to make things look beautiful and functional at the same time. We could have had 1 year long battery life if batteries used plutonium instead of lithium, but I doubt anyone wants to glow at night. Also, notches are tradeoffs too, aren’t they? These things have always looked ugly and distracting, yet Apple says that everyone needs a selfie camera and Face ID (I doubt it, fingerprint scanner built in Apple on the back would suffice)
I assume this is a joke. But try it. Battery fires are kind of entertaining. They are not at all like a gasoline fire where it is an emergency. The last time I accidently set a Lipo battery on fire I picked it up with some pliers and walked it outside and set it down on the concrete. There is no way to put the fire out, you just have to wait. I can only imagine some untrained consumer trying to pry a battery out of an iPhone with this tool, As said, it would be entertaining at least.
They don't have one, at the end of the day the majority and average users are not looking for swappable batties. People want easily replaceable batteries when their battery gets close to the end of life.I'm asking for a real answer.
We might go full circle
Instead of encasing the battery in metal, encase it in plastic and have a clip on clip off backing to iPhone.
It was popular 20 years ago
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My entire point is that we should be making it easier to learn that skill. And while not everyone has a laptop, virtually everyone has a phone. Why not make that a great place to start?
We can’t replicate a parallel world where Apple does that, but we had many cases of flagship Android phone with easily replaceable battery in the past, and they failed in the market compared to their non-replaceable equivalents. All recent “modular” projects like the fairphone haven’t gained traction either. So at least I’d say there is no huge customer demand for it.
The problem with waterproofing is not (mainly) the battery itself but the fact that you can’t seal the phone nearly as good with clippings, you can’t ensure the effectiveness of gaskets after opening the device, etc.
In the past breaking the dsplay glass didn't often happen as now (at least to me). I have always thought that when a phone dropped on the floor, the energy was "discharged" on the weakest point, the connection between the phone and the battery and this saved the display.Remember the days when in an airport or grocery store someone dropped their phone? The phone went one way, the battery flew off in another direction and the removable battery case went under the trashcan or display case. Looks like the bureaucrats will be taking us back to the past. Sad
Learning to repair things should be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
I don't want to repair anything and I don't want any increase in size, volume or weight to make it easier or cheaper to repair for small devices.
I use my phone to take pictures while diving, and one time my case cracked around 100 feet underwater. I kept swimming for another 30+ minutes. My phone survived. I had issues charging for a day or two due to it detecting water in the charging port, but after a few days it was literally as if nothing happened. Pretty incredible lol.Yes we did, and those mechanical mechanisms to eject them take up space and greatly reduce water ingress protection. A little rubber seal is not adequate to result in the stories of "my phone sat in a pond for two weeks". There are actual engineering tradeoffs that need to be made to accomplish that kind of ease-of-access for swapping batteries.