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I am in the exact same boat. My late 2013 iMac is still chugging along, but now that it has become my everyday work machine (working from home in the age of Covid) I could *really* use an upgrade. Waiting until 2H21 would be... ugh.

Cannot bring myself to purchase another iMac with the same design. If they had a new-design Intel iMac I'd *consider* it, but I really want Apple Silicon for whatever reason. Please Apple, 1H21 for new iMac.
My sandy bridge machine I built in 2012 still screams, and cost half as much as a comparably built Mac.
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Trolling much?
Yep. You caught me. 🙄
 
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Ugh. You, sir, just described hell.
Since when has Apple been interested in (serious) Mac gaming? I don’t think devs are much interested either. If you expect that to change due to an architecture switch you might want to give that thought another shot. PCs or consoles, that’s where I’d be looking if I were a gamer.

Apple could always switch course sometime in the future, but I don’t see much evidence of it. I’m sure they’re looking at a lot of high-performance AR and VR applications though in the R&D dept.
 
I hope it won't be all form over function. It doesn't have to be that thin. Give user upgradable RAM at the very least.
 
The new generation coming from Nvida and AMD are going to set a very high bar. I am worried Apple is going to flat out ignore gaming that people are used to on Mac and instead lean heavily towards iOS type games.

Apple don't seem to know the difference and those iOS type games are the ones that generate Apple more revenue. The 'golden' era of Mac gaming ended with the 32bit drop and threatened OpenGL drop, now we had decades of games that had made it to macOS suddenly disappear. Even Blizzard seems to have just given up on the Mac. So now expect to see all this Apple Arcade level rubbish fill the top lists of Apple games.
 
this could be the bigger imac....the smaller 24" that replace the 21.5" Intel, maybe will come this year, WITHOUT custom GPU, why? because i bet the iGPU from the A14 based chip for the AS imac will be already stronger than the current 21.5" amd dGPU that we already have today
Please be correct, I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
 
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I won't be surprised if the larger ARM iMac starts at $3,999 and everything soldered in even the ram and ssd.
I’m sure they’d like to hit $1,499 or so but who knows, maybe it will just stay at $1,799 initially until they recover some R&D 🤷‍♂️
 
All of you need to realize that the A12Z is already easily outperforming the most powerful integrated GPU in any intel chip.

These rumors are talking about a much more powerful GPU, one that will likely outperform the 5700xt while being integrated into the SoC.

It may not beat it in raw performance but thanks to unified memory, extra tile memory, hardware accelerators and very high efficiency and utilization, it’ll give you better real-world performance.

No driver issues either.
 
2021 will be show case year for Apple Si MACs with 2nd gen Macbook/s, 1st gen iMACs. Improved 5+nm, high performance CPU/GPU, WiFi 6E,low power memory, mini led display,longer battery,etc will come together nicely. Have dry powder $ to buy.
 
All of you need to realize that the A12Z is already easily outperforming the most powerful integrated GPU in any intel chip.

These rumors are talking about a much more powerful GPU, one that will likely outperform the 5700xt while being integrated into the SoC.

It may not beat it in raw performance but thanks to unified memory, extra tile memory, hardware accelerators and very high efficiency and utilization, it’ll give you better real-world performance.

No driver issues either.
You seem to know something about this topic, would it in fact be integrated into the SoC? How big would that be? I guess I just assumed it would be a discrete chip at the higher performance (and wattage) levels. Thx.
 
Power == heat output, and heat (fan noise, CPU temperatures, thermal throttling, wear and tear due to large temperature changes) is a massive issue in all current Macs. Even in the Mac Pro, with no size constraints, a lot of that expensive engineering is there to achieve efficient, quiet cooling. Not to mention the constraints it places on designing CPUs and GPUs that won't melt themselves...

So power efficiency is very important in desktops - especially if, like Apple, you specialise in small-form-factor/all-in-one designs and also sell a lot to the audio/visual production market where fan noise is especially unwelcome.

My 2020 13” MBP is a disaster when it comes to heat and noise. Fans always spinning up to 6000 and sounding like a small drone. Only way to make it livable is to turn off TurboBoost.
 
So another year before an Apple Silicon iMac is released. Add another couple of years before I consider it safe to buy myself one ...

Li'fuka :)

It's clear from reading the context that good performance on any of these Macs will only be achieved with new software written for them. The X86 world that everyone else is on will move like an astronaut walking on the moon.
 
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Hmmmm...well, hopefully my 2013 27” will hang in there.
I hear you, my 2012 iMac is still chugging along just fine. I usually refresh around the 10-year mark so the announcement of the Apple silicon Mac's has been fortuitous. With my slow replacement plan there is little incentive to get the new Intel Mac's. Why get something inferior and will also not be Apple's focus for the next 10 years? Doesn't make sense.
 
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It's clear from reading the context that good performance on any of these Macs will only be achieved with new software written for them. The X86 world that everyone else is on will move like an astronaut walking on the moon.
Don't know dude. I've been following some developers that are trying out the new Apple silicon dev kit and to a person, they are blown away by the transition software Apple is putting into the new Mac's. Between the faster and better silicon and the well-implemented software, there is no difference when executing and in some cases, the software runs better.
 
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