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Report: Apple to Release 5th-Gen iPad Air With OLED Display Next Year
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I wouldn't worry too much about OLED burn in on an iPad too much, as if by rare chance you do get some kind of burn in, you could just take it to an Apple store, and they will have no choice but to replace it if clearly noticeable, even after your warranty expires.
After having massive amounts of burn in on 2 OLED TVs, I really hope Apple sticks to the mini LED tech.
It is indeed far superior to OLED for color accuracy. Apple used OLED as a higher end selling point for a couple years to make money and now putting it in the lower end devices like iPhone 12 and now iPad Air.
Care to elaborate your use case that caused the burn in? There seem to be die hards out there that swear by OLED but your situation seems like proof of potential long term issues with the tech. Not to mention is way more expensive to make than mini LED in general. OLED Tvs will go the way of plasma in a few years.
I have heard very few people with iPhones complain about burn in but I have seen people with other manufacturers complain about it, like I said in the comment above, it probably won’t happen, but it can, all it takes if for somebody to leave it on a child for example (although most screen have safety features to prevent it) and you‘re risking it. For me personally, I would rather not have that, but I find oled saturates colours too much, especially on the ones I have seen. They may not have been calibrated properly but straight out of the box you do need to fiddle with it
Playing a video game or running a news channel with a chyron on the bottom of the screen. I have an LG 55 currently and my fathers TV is a 65. Both of us have burn in on it, though, mine is much worse (since he doesn’t play games). Last time I went to their house, I pointed out the burn in and now he wants a new TV lol.
My TV is horrific.
I think they are just waiting for other better OLED displays to be available and then move to micro led
Got myself the 12.9” M1 iPad Pro a few weeks ago and went through all the testing I could with black backgrounds and white text, etc. While it’s undeniable that bloom is a thing, it’s really only ever a problem on a nearly wholly black screen with white highlights, especially if viewed in a dark environment. Having said that, I much prefer the Mini LED’s overall contrast and fidelity compared to my 2018 12.9” iPad Pro’s screen.
Where things got interesting for me was when I ran the same 4K HDR video on my 65” LG C7 OLED TV and the new iPad Pro, simultaneously. I was expecting the OLED TV to show-up the iPad quite badly. To my surprise, the opposite happened; the iPad made my OLED TV look pretty poor by comparison. The brightness on the iPad was massively higher than the TV’s, the near black fidelity was vastly better on the iPad and overall the image just looked plain better to me on the iPad than the TV. Go figure. I can honestly say I am a massive fan of OLED displays, but these new Mini LED iPad displays are pretty incredible too!
Can’t imagine them putting an OLED into the 12.9” Pro in the next couple years now, tbh. Probably just go Micro-LED when the tech’s proper viable for mass production at a reasonable cost and that’ll be that!
Where things got interesting for me was when I ran the same 4K HDR video on my 65” LG C7 OLED TV and the new iPad Pro, simultaneously. I was expecting the OLED TV to show-up the iPad quite badly. To my surprise, the opposite happened; the iPad made my OLED TV look pretty poor by comparison. The brightness on the iPad was massively higher than the TV’s, the near black fidelity was vastly better on the iPad and overall the image just looked plain better to me on the iPad than the TV. Go figure. I can honestly say I am a massive fan of OLED displays, but these new Mini LED iPad displays are pretty incredible too!
Can’t imagine them putting an OLED into the 12.9” Pro in the next couple years now, tbh. Probably just go Micro-LED when the tech’s proper viable for mass production at a reasonable cost and that’ll be that!
I’m not saying it’s coming soon, but what I can tell you is that ultimately, MicroLED is coming. If we can figure out how to fit 10 billion transistors into an iPhone chip, we can figure out how to fit a few million LEDs behind a screen. And it’s going to be amazing
How can ‘near black fidelity’ on your mini led ipad be better than 100% true ‘pixels turned off’ infinite contrast ratio black on your OLED tv?!?
Keeping an eye on this to finally upgrade my tab S3. Stuck between rock and hard place at the moment. I don't want 16:10 so all Android tablets are out of the question and I'm not giving up oled either.
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No pro motion, smaller screen and same RAM as the 2018 11”, less brightness, and risk of burn-in = hard pass for me.
Darth Tulhu
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I highly doubt it. They are vastly different hardware features-wise. And the 11” Pro is probably the better seller than the 12.9”. That sucker is BIG.
Because the OLED’s near black dark areas are so dark, you basically can’t discern any detail in those areas, at least in the HDR test videos I ran the two devices head to head in. The iPad rendered them very dark but at least you could tell what there was there in the image. No question the iPad did a better job with those than my TV did.
Depends on the OLED, the software playback algorithm, and the ambient lighting. The source material also matters.
Some OLEDs may crush blacks, but it varies. However, properly rendered blacks may still look crushed if there is too much ambient lightning in the room. In that context, a FALD/mini-LED might bring out more detail, but that sometimes may be because the display actually has incorrect raised blacks. The other issue is the decoder. For example, sometimes recent Sony OLEDs will do better for near-black performance than LG OLEDs, especially older LG OLEDs, despite the fact that Sony OLED panels are made by LG. The difference is the image processor, which for many features is better on the Sonys than the LGs. The other place this matters is with the source material, because LG sometimes doesn't output near-black content as nicely as Sony when the source material isn't perfect.
OTOH, Sony OLED TVs clip whites. LGs generally do not. Instead, LG remaps uber bright whites along a gradient, so that uber bright whites are darkened to bring out the detail. Sony on the other hand faithfully displays the brightness up to close to 1000 nits, and then throws out everything above that and displays it all the same. To put it another way, for say detail at 1000 nits and 1500 nits, Sony will display both the same. LG will display them differently, but both at under 1000 nits. In that context, many prefer LG's approach to Sony's. Again, it's the same OLED panels, but the video decoding behaviour is different.
You should also note that your C7 is not really the best indicator of what OLED can do these days, because it's an old TV. It's over 4 years old after all. A good comparison would be against something like a Sony A90J, in a light-controlled room. For LG, the one to test would be the LG G1 (which is the same panel as the Sony A90J, and which is a different panel than the LG C1).
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