The copium strikes. This is what you wanted. Heavy handed regulation. Well, you got it!
The EU always knows best, right?
No, no one always knows best, but in this one case the EU did know, and Apple did not.
The copium strikes. This is what you wanted. Heavy handed regulation. Well, you got it!
The EU always knows best, right?
There's so much wrong here I don't know where to begin.Is what someone would say they doesn’t know how many iPhones, and thereby MFi-verified Lightning accessories Apple has sold every year.
Apple wasn’t just earning extortionate profit margins from selling the same USB 2.0 ports year after year after year. They were earning billions in royalties from all the third parties that had to pay Apple to get MFi certification.
-No business in their right mind would add a cost and lower their profit margins if consumers aren’t boycotting them and there are no laws prohibiting from doing what earns them the most.
Regardless of the exact reasons why, consumers weren’t buying any less iPhones because of the outdated and proprietary ports.
Who cares about more advanced tech if adopting it means you lose out on MFi royalties and have to spend more on components?
Hardly anything can earn a business as much as selling something that’s both high in demand and completely proprietary to their products.
Apple loved Lighting and would have never parted with it.
Anyone who says Apple would have adopted USB-C without getting forced by the EU doesn’t understand business or why anyone makes consumer electronics to begin with.
Under capitalism, you don’t get rewarded for making the best. You get rewarded for earning the highest possible amount in relation to your costs, the amount you’ve invested.
If no consumers or laws are objecting to your outdated, proprietary products, then you’d obviously be an absolute fool to change anything as that would mean lower profit margins for every product sold.
And now with this law most likely we will never see a new connection type as no one will want to deal with the EU. They would have much better off baning micro/mini usb which was the real problem.Unlikely. They have been switching their devices to USB-C for a few years now.
There's so much wrong here I don't know where to begin.
No Apple was not making "billions" in royalties from MFi. If Lightening was such a money grab for them, why did they introduce wireless charging using the Qi standard instead of their own proprietary system? Why did Apple move iPads to USB-C? Why did Apple go all-in on USB-C on the Mac well before any other computer manufacturer?
When they introduced Lightening, Apple said it was their connector for the next decade. And despite being demonstrably better than the connector it was replacing in every way, customers were IRATE. Slow walking a change to a connector that, while maybe better for nerds, has no easily identifiable benefit over the existing cable makes complete sense.
Prime example: my mother in law has not upgraded her phone BECAUSE the new ones are all USB-C and she doesn't want to go out and buy a bunch of new cords everywhere. For normal users the change to USB-C is annoying.
I don’t know what the argument is here, you would prefer that iPhones were still doing Lightning/USB 2.0?The copium strikes. This is what you wanted. Heavy handed regulation. Well, you got it!
The EU always knows best, right?
A lot of the items you lised I bet had micro usb ports on them especially flip phones, controllers, and speakers.Normal users have had USB chargers around for years. Hell, my parents flip phones have USB-C. MacBooks have had them, Nintendo Switch, Bluetooth speakers, all android devices, other gaming consoles and controllers, Chromebooks, Windows Laptops, on and on and on.
I don't or care how much Apple was or wasn't making, we don't need more proprietary hardware. Your mother is the exception.
A lot of the items you lised I bet had micro usb ports on them especially flip phones, controllers, and speakers.
I bet you there are a lot of people put off by the changing of ports simply because people hate change. And at the end of the day, Apple would have changed to USB-C for the iPhone without this law, but not before ten years of use because Steve Jobs said it would be the port for the next decade.Of course they did, and printers used to have centronix and my mouse to be serial. So what?
The point is that usb-c has been around for years at this point. To act like it’s a new and rare charger that no one has is disingenuous.
Normal users have one or two devices. They don't have bluetooth speakers, game consoles, multiple computers, etc. We're the exception, not the rule.Normal users have had USB chargers around for years. Hell, my parents flip phones have USB-C. MacBooks have had them, Nintendo Switch, Bluetooth speakers, all android devices, other gaming consoles and controllers, Chromebooks, Windows Laptops, on and on and on.
I don't or care how much Apple was or wasn't making, we don't need more proprietary hardware. Your mother is the exception.
The EU tried to mandate micro-USB in the early 2010s.Goodbye lightning. You were a great connector in dark times of micro usb.
I bet you there are a lot of people put off by the changing of ports simply because people hate change. And at the end of the day, Apple would have changed to USB-C for the iPhone without this law, but not before ten years of use because Steve Jobs said it would be the port for the next decade.
I think it was Phil Schiller who said that.I bet you there are a lot of people put off by the changing of ports simply because people hate change. And at the end of the day, Apple would have changed to USB-C for the iPhone without this law, but not before ten years of use because Steve Jobs said it would be the port for the next decade.
The only correlation is in your head. The MFi Program made Apple the equivalent of change found in couch cushions. Gruber reported that multiple Apple sources told him it was "a rounding error". They certainly weren't deciding which connector to use or not use because of it.Gee, I wonder if there’s perchance, maybe, just maybe, a correlation between iPhones being Apple’s top selling and earning product throughout all of its history by far(!) and its reluctance to ditch Lighting and move to a port that doesn’t earn it any royalties or forces consumers to replace all their smartphone accessories to MFi Lightning accessories if they switch from another smartphone brand to iPhone?
I wonder, I wonder.
Satire of course, but there will be some who actually believe this.People in the EU should be celebrating! You guys brought Apple to its knees! You got Fortnite! You got side loaded apps and you even got the connector you wanted!
Who cares about lower cost phones affordable to less fortunate folks?
Those people don't matter, right?
People in the EU should be celebrating! You guys brought Apple to its knees! You got Fortnite! You got side loaded apps and you even got the connector you wanted!
Who cares about lower cost phones affordable to less fortunate folks?
Those people don't matter, right?
Funny thing is my current phone is my first USB-C phone. And it is also the first iPhone I’ve had that is completely, utterly, 100% unreliable with wired CarPlay (my car doesn’t have wireless CarPlay unfortunately). My wife and daughter both have a Lightning iPhone…and with both, CarPlay works flawlessly if they connect to my car. My USB-C phone…CarPlay freezes and disconnects multiple times and then finally just refuses to connect to the car. Which is a very inconvenient issue considering the amount of time I spend in my car.There's so much wrong here I don't know where to begin.
No Apple was not making "billions" in royalties from MFi. If Lightening was such a money grab for them, why did they introduce wireless charging using the Qi standard instead of their own proprietary system? Why did Apple move iPads to USB-C? Why did Apple go all-in on USB-C on the Mac well before any other computer manufacturer?
When they introduced Lightening, Apple said it was their connector for the next decade. And despite being demonstrably better than the connector it was replacing in every way, customers were IRATE. Slow walking a change to a connector that, while maybe better for nerds, has no easily identifiable benefit over the existing cable makes complete sense.
Prime example: my mother in law has not upgraded her phone BECAUSE the new ones are all USB-C and she doesn't want to go out and buy a bunch of new cords everywhere. For normal users the change to USB-C is annoying.
Funny thing is my current phone is my first USB-C phone. And it is also the first one I’ve had that is completely unreliable with wired CarPlay (my car doesn’t have wireless CarPlay unfortunately). My wife and daughter both have a Lightning iPhone…and with both, CarPlay works flawlessly if they connect to my car. My USB-C phone…CarPlay freezes and disconnects multiple times and then finally just refuses to connect to the car.
Lucky for you, then. I’ve tried multiple different cables. Apple cables with an Apple adapter. Cables from Amazon. Dirt cheap cables. Not so cheap ones. No luck.USB-c to usb-a and has been super reliable for my me in my ‘19 VW using a cheap Amazon-basics cable.
You write about other people ignoring the billions of dollars Apple makes with Lightning, but do you even provide any number?Is what someone would say they doesn’t know how many iPhones, and thereby MFi-verified Lightning accessories Apple has sold every year.
Apple wasn’t just earning extortionate profit margins from selling the same USB 2.0 ports year after year after year. They were earning billions in royalties from all the third parties that had to pay Apple to get MFi certification.
-No business in their right mind would add a cost and lower their profit margins if consumers aren’t boycotting them and there are no laws prohibiting from doing what earns them the most.
Regardless of the exact reasons why, consumers weren’t buying any less iPhones because of the outdated and proprietary ports.
Who cares about more advanced tech if adopting it means you lose out on MFi royalties and have to spend more on components?
Hardly anything can earn a business as much as selling something that’s both high in demand and completely proprietary to their products.
Apple loved Lighting and would have never parted with it.
Anyone who says Apple would have adopted USB-C without getting forced by the EU doesn’t understand business or why anyone makes consumer electronics to begin with.
Under capitalism, you don’t get rewarded for making the best. You get rewarded for earning the highest possible amount in relation to your costs, the amount you’ve invested.
If no consumers or laws are objecting to your outdated, proprietary products, then you’d obviously be an absolute fool to change anything as that would mean lower profit margins for every product sold.
I would not be surprised if iPhone 14 and 14 plus is discontinued completely by March in favor of iPhone SE. Apple could try to streamline iPhone lineup in anticipation of iPhone air in September.Meanwhile, the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus likely would have been discontinued in September,
That is just the regular way these things go: companies develop new things, those things become commonplace and eventually you have to standardize it to prevent vendor lock-in and allow healthier competition. Nobody complains about being eternally stuck with whatever power plug standard they have, even though arguably in many countries they are under-engineered. In the end, the benefits of having one standard is more important than minor design deficiencies, as the alternative is a nightmare.Normal users have one or two devices. They don't have bluetooth speakers, game consoles, multiple computers, etc. We're the exception, not the rule.
I'm glad the iPhone switched to USB-C. It makes my life easier. But just because it makes my life easier doesn't mean we need the government coming in and mandating it. Remember the EU tried to do this to make Micro-USB the connector. If they had succeed there would be no USB-C or Lightening! And now we are literally stuck with USB-C forever! No one has any incentive to design a better connector when you'd have to convince the EU to allow it.