I'm surprised that Apple hasn't resolved the Masimo conflict using a big bundle of their cash for either a licensing deal or a buyout of the company. If anyone could afford it, Apple could.
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Report: Apple Watch Series 10 to Offer Larger Screens and Faster Chip, but New Health Features in Trouble
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Because they need to keep selling watches but they don’t know what else to do with them. Increasing the size is an easy way to pressure people to buy the new one because “something obvious changed”. (Unlike re-releasing the same SoC every year.)
Also, making the watch slightly larger probably takes very little R&D effort. Almost everyone in my family has one and not once have I heard any one of them say it should be larger.
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Yeah it’s largely vestigial now, especially in “the AI era” where they feel they are “behind.”
Only years of mismanagement and R&D cost cutting could have led to Apple being so out maneuvered as to not be able to release new functionalities for 2 years running.
They spent 30 billion on R&D in 2023. Is this the new narrative people are running with? They’re not spending enough?
People acting like nobody should care if the design is largely unchanged are silly. Watches, including the Apple Watch, are heavily marketed for their design. Many people chose Ultra for the dramatic design change compared to the stagnant base Watch. It’s fine if some people like Apple Watch but want to see a notably refreshed look.
They did not spend that on the Watch.
Added: Or more importantly most of that was on the car, or otherwise spent towards a poor strategy.
Where are those “most of us”??? Ain’t here. And seeing the wearables selling charts from Apple, its definitely in decline for years.
Are you really honest by saying most of us are satisfied with AW-batterywatch for example?
Half baked features like blood oxygen levels that change every minute…
When cycling… half of the time it only noticed I’m cycling after ten minutes. Same for walking.
Quality my a**
I actually ‘downgraded’ from the 42 to the smaller model when they went to 45mm as I thought it was getting too large - to hear that the small watch may now be as big as the Ultra is a letdown.
If you look at the whole Apple lineup it’s exactly the same for Mac, iPads, iPhones, studiodisplays, etc.
The whole lineup has gotten stale under Tim Cook.
I wonder how long their chipbusiness can keep up now there is pressure from Qualcomm.
Why can’t we have a poll here for most wanted Apple features? Does MacRumors support polls?
I believe you've labelled that incorrectly. That's the upcoming Apple Watch Max Pro.
My Freestyle Libre 3 CGMS uses a tiny little needle to measure interstitial glucose, and sits on the backside of my upper arm. Not a particularly useful location for a watch.
It'd be great if someone figured out a way to measure glucose levels non-invasively, but it would have to be consistently reliable and accurate to really serve as more than a toy.
Unfortunately, choosing a larger Apple Watch is not as easy as choosing a larger Mac. Most people don't want flat screen TV's on their wrists. The Ultra is cool, but to be fair, I much prefer the design of the regular Apple Watch, and the size too...
Well, AW S7 is still a pretty recent model, of course there is not much of a reason to upgrade to S8 or S9.
If S10 doesn't come with new health features and a new refreshed design, then I don't see a reason to upgrade.
I'm still on AW S4, this was the first model with EKG and it was the main reason why I decided to finally get an AW.
I would be compelled to upgrade if the new generation would have hypertension detection and better battery life.
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Well, there is usually a 3 year span between redesigns, so perhaps we will see a new Ultra next year with new features. I think the regular watch was due for a redesign this year but if nothing major is ready, yet, at least there is a faster chip and a bigger screen.
Apple would probably have to thread its way through quite a few needles to do that. Masimo makes a lot of the sensors used in hospital equipment - at a minimum, the government would probably want guarantees that Apple would never pull the plug on that part of the business.
Plus, healthcare devices fall under a lot of additional regulations, which Apple might not like.
Even worse. 30 billion for an Apple car and VR glasses. So it is more like „you‘re spending it wrong“ - 30 billion without any ROI.
Same here. I use my ultra mainly for workout and wanted to use it to track my sleep. But I can’t be bothered to charge it before bedtime and the watch feels uncomfortable to sleep with. Looking at replacing the aw with the whoop or oura or the soon to be released Samsung g ring.
My AW6 is still going and short of it failing I won’t replace it for the same features. Please don’t make the battery so inferior it Pops the screen off the watch! I had two of those and I’m sick of poor design!
The next device has to have a larger screen so I can reasonably see it, I’m not 20 and I’m part of the largest generation with $$$ so listen up! Screen size is first and foremost! I want a modular face that I can actually read the weather date and time at a glance!!
I need blood pressure and real time health info! No excuses!!!! F the patents! If the other companies don’t have an active unit trounce them. Patents are worthless if there holders are not employing them. Progress should be above all. F the patent trolls!! Battery life must be days not hours! How about a portable charger too. Give me a 10k battery pack so I can travel the world and use the watch! Geese guys this is the best advertising you can get, boomers using the watch and interacting with the ecosystem!!!!!!! How many boomers do you see using Apple Pay on the watch, none. Because it sucks, get motivated Apple. Steve has all but burnt in his grave watching you dismantle the company get real or get out! It’s not about valuation, it’s about the product! Stop failing, please!
The next device has to have a larger screen so I can reasonably see it, I’m not 20 and I’m part of the largest generation with $$$ so listen up! Screen size is first and foremost! I want a modular face that I can actually read the weather date and time at a glance!!
I need blood pressure and real time health info! No excuses!!!! F the patents! If the other companies don’t have an active unit trounce them. Patents are worthless if there holders are not employing them. Progress should be above all. F the patent trolls!! Battery life must be days not hours! How about a portable charger too. Give me a 10k battery pack so I can travel the world and use the watch! Geese guys this is the best advertising you can get, boomers using the watch and interacting with the ecosystem!!!!!!! How many boomers do you see using Apple Pay on the watch, none. Because it sucks, get motivated Apple. Steve has all but burnt in his grave watching you dismantle the company get real or get out! It’s not about valuation, it’s about the product! Stop failing, please!