Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
so does Apple is apparently why it hasn't released yet. but I'm not sure I buy these doom and gloom claims by some random blogger who makes his money off page hits anymore than I would believe them from a stock analyst who makes money by driving down the share price before a release so he can buy low and sell high
[doublepost=1537197973][/doublepost]

and they probably were. it's that last 10% that caught them up

Then, in my layman opinion, they need to change their testing milestones.
 
and by 100% reliable you mean a non-apple cable
main-qimg-62189444303449567aff3271d7c64596

In my house, it's the 3rd party cables that fail and it's the Apple cables that endure.
 
It’s not the produce per se, it is the way the company is handling things, but keep repeating everything is fine, it might work.

How are they handling it wrong?
[doublepost=1537201700][/doublepost]
Maybe its issues with the wireless AirPod cases too and there was no point to pushing ahead. Or how would they get the Apple Watch to sit on the pad too?

Some bands it'd be fine but with bands like the Mailanese Loop, you can't open it up to lay it flat. You'd have to unhook the band from the watch itself each time.
 
I don’t think it’s ever going to see the light of day.
It already saw the light of day. They announced it, that is part of the problem. Better that they didn't even show the video last year, but they wanted to keep people from buying other wireless chargers when they thought theirs would be ready. A year late and $150 short at this point.
[doublepost=1537202387][/doublepost]
Well, you could all have bought a 3 port Qi charger at IKEA years ago for a fraction of Apples price :)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10308315/
That doesn't work with the watch, nor do we have a wireless case for AirPods, but I've already bought third party chargers over waiting for this vaporware.
 
Not all of the time, Apple announced the iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods and HomePod well in advance of their actual release dates and they seem to have done quite well. When there are insurmountable problems and the product gets scrapped before it even reaches sale it can make a company look pretty silly though.
Apple just ain’t going to fail because of not bringing out an AirPower charger!
 
Even standard Qi chargers are about 85% efficient. Finer tuned chargers with higher wattages can get into the high 90s.



The iPhone was announced (and demo'd) while it still only worked for just a few minutes at a time, six months before it finally went on sale.

Of course, Jobs was also still around to kick butts :)


Qi Charging is not that high. Qi peaks at 65% efficiency. I know the article you are quoting and pulling that 90% number from. It isn't a practical reference for what people are getting for real-world results. Even Texas Instruments states that you need to supply 2A @ 5V to a Qi transmitter circuit to reliably charge a device wireless @ 1A 5V.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/qi-more-efficient-than-rezence,29501.html

http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/slvuaj7/slvuaj7.pdf

On page 15 they claim the circuit shouldn't pull more than 1.7A while supplying 1A to the load. That is a 58% efficiency and it is working as expected.
 
It already saw the light of day. They announced it, that is part of the problem. Better that they didn't even show the video last year, but they wanted to keep people from buying other wireless chargers when they thought theirs would be ready. A year late and $150 short at this point.
[doublepost=1537202387][/doublepost]
That doesn't work with the watch, nor do we have a wireless case for AirPods, but I've already bought third party chargers over waiting for this vaporware.

Airpods charges super easy with the same cable used for the iPad :)
 
I've not read the article, but you'd have thought they'd been like 90% of the way into testing before announcing this thing.
Apple like to announce new categories very early

They announced the first generation of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, homepod and others way too early to 'block' competition. Only the first generation, then they go to regular (order next week /next month) cycle

This one clearly wasn't thought through
 
You know, while I think they should be more careful in the future, given that they make this sort of mistake almost never, I think it would be better (for Apple as a company and the customers) for them to just admit in some sort of press release that they bit off more than they could chew here are will table this until they could work out some more of the tech. They might be tempted to pretend they never make mistakes, but for me, admitting this one would do much more for their credibility here. Unless they really have figured this out, I think some sort of acknowledgement is inevitable ... better to get out in front.

But...but...it’s September. Why not give Apple the benefit of the doubt over what unnamed sources are saying? I mean, wasn’t the Apple Watch Series 4 screen only supposed to be 15% larger than the Series 3 screen?
 
Apple like to announce new categories very early

They announced the first generation of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, homepod and others way too early to 'block' competition. Only the first generation, then they go to regular (order next week /next month) cycle

This one clearly wasn't thought through

Huh? iPhone, they had working devices shown at the launch event. iPad there were working devices shown at the launch event. Apple watch there were devices shown at the launch/reveal event.

HomePod was shown to the press I believe in the hands-on area after the event, but AirPower has been absent in all physical forms
 
Now that wireless charging pads are the new "feature" on new lamps and clocks as well as the new freebie at trade shows I do not care about the Apple product. Sone everyone will have these chargers all over the house and car. Apple... don't bother... Airports were a better products to work on... bad call Apple management.
 
So they’d rather compromise on the quality just to make it thinner and smaller even if this results in massive issues with heat... so basically it’s the same as their computers then

This exactly sums up the Apple I have learned to hate (will maybe hate is too strong, but none-the-less) its why Macs are screwed up (too small to house real power), its why the watch is now too big (tried to stuff too much into it and made it larger, when it was already too big), its why I went out and bought an SE in the last few days (phones are too large so they can release technology that is neat, but dubious). A charger is a charger, who cares, within reason, about how big it is.

What we have here is a failure to communicate, or a failure of common sense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ChrisMoBro
The problem with all this was the premature announcement.

It is OK if You experiment with new technology, put resources in it, and in the end, You admit that it fails.

This happened with Apple before, also with Steve Jobs.

The BIG issue is, that they designed the final look and already presented the product. You must not do that until You are a 100% sure, that it works.


This is another perfect example for Tim Cook as a failed CEO. HE doesn't have the strategic thinking. He could have been super secretive about wireless charging, and when the day comes: POW! Surprise! Everyone freaks out.

Instead, everybody is disappointed and things of Apple as a loser bozo company.

Tim Cook needs to know, who works for him, who is able to come up with a breakthrough. He needs to push people to the limit, freak out, fire a few, get furious, get them to compete each other. Instead, he sits down at a presentation at the design department, munches on his power bar and says: "Fine, lets push the release date a few months further, now, who wants to join me on a visit to a water slide park? Lets have fun!"
[doublepost=1537207137][/doublepost]
With that level of complication the price would be way beyond acceptable levels. Wireless charging as it is now I find completely useless. There is no difference for me if i place phone or watch on the mat or hook it up via cable. I charge overnight anyway. Not to mention that efficiency is very low what directly translates to loss of power.
That technology is not promising. Once the real wireless technology will be available I will maybe change my mind. Lets say 3m range.

Real innovation would be: I plug the phone to a cable and my 5% full battery gets to 90% within 60 seconds. That would be a breakthrough. The company is headless, heading to wrong directions...
 
This is another perfect example for Tim Cook as a failed CEO.

Hardly. One product That never launches is _not_ the demise of Tim Cook and certainly does not deem him a failure, especially given the success of Apples growth over the last five or six years under his tenure. Not to mention, the Airpower may not have been a success as Apple intended to be, but you can’t Correlate a product to the magnitude of Tim Cook‘s Position as a CEO as a ‘failure’. Two things are not mutually exclusive in your argument.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.