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Just wait until the iWatch is widespread and doctors' offices become like Macrumors Forums.

"My heart rate drops slightly when I am resting but increases when I walk around. Do I need a heart transplant?"

"My blood pressure is really high at 120/80. Is this normal?"

"I sweat more when it's 95 degrees outside. Please help!"

"Hello user. I noticed your heart isn't working to optimal levels. I have scheduled a heart transplant with Dr. X and added a reminder to your calendar. Your iTunes account has been charged a deposit of $435,503.99 for the procedure."

***** Siri
 
how can the FDA really need to approve this ? It looks something straight out the 1980's movies..

Just pass it along and bring to market.. if people buy it, then looks aren't everything.
 
Health tracking is not the next big thing.

There's a reason why those Fuelbands and Fitbits never caught on.
But they have caught on.


2.7 million fitness bands / fitbits sold in a couple years is no small feat. Especially when Fitbit accounts for more than 50% of those.

Sure, we're not talking Apple iPhone sized markets here. But 3 million sales of a brand new sort of device from a relative upstart company?

they have to start somewhere. and thats the start.

the companies that make them are profitable. They caught on. Deluding yourself that because YOU don't want one, doesn't mean that they haven't caught on

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...g-Sales-Digital-Fitness-Category#.U6SEh_ldVlk

I am excited to see what Apple can bring. They have this tendency of taking previous smaller market devices and blowing the door wide open on general acceptance.

however... I'm wondering what a Sweat detector will do... "yo are sweating"...... NO ****! most of us know that
 
Bhowever... I'm wondering what a Sweat detector will do... "yo are sweating"...... NO ****! most of us know that

Lie detector. The iWatch will sound a warning to others, if the sweat, heartrate and blood pressure sensors indicate that you're telling a fib :)

How would the swear sensor work? What would it be looking for?

Well, you see, the movie "Demolition Man" was really about Steve Jobs and Apple in the future.

The iWatch's min-Siri app will be constantly listening for swear words. The moment it hears one, you'll be fined ten iTunes credits for unsocial behavior.

There will be Joy-Joy happiness all over. Everyone wearing iWatches, being healthy, telling the truth, and no cursing. The mass absorption of humans into the Apple San Angeles based collective continues. Resistance is futile.

All that's left to make it happen, is for Tim Cook to get on the board of Taco Bell.
 
Of course there is a market. There were over 29 million diabetics in the US in 2012, paying $29.00/mo in copay for the testing strips. You bet they are interested.

That's just one use. Any other uses can it have outside of telling the time, let us count the possibilities.....
 
As the owner of a Nike Fuelband, Fitbit Force, and Garmin FR620 running watch I've done a lot of sport/fitness band research and monitoring the past couple of years. I'm not so sure anything like the discussed features of the "iWatch" does exist in any one existing current product.

I have similar. been using a fitbit for a while as a quantitative way of measuring my health and changes to my activity levels. I'ts been a great tool (when i remember it).

but it is missing some things. And the rumour mill around the iWatch seems to include a few things I haven't seen 'yet'.

One thing I would love is a wearable heart rate monitor that can do historical tracking of my heart rate. I had a heart scare a year back before I decided to change my fitness and health for the better. But it still is a concern to me and would like to see what levels i'm pushing myself to and would love to see some sort of graph data over a peariod of time of my heart rates peaks and falls.

Currently, the only heartrate monitors I've found don't really lend themselves well to my sport of choice. I'm a ice hockey goalie. I frequently use my chest area to block shots. My chest protector is really good, but the idea of wearing a device over my chest, isn't very promising. A good hard shot there might shatter / break it, or drive the device into my chest, more than it should normally acomodate. A wrist worn device that could measure heart rate would be much much better as my wrists are never exposed.

Also, think about the life saving potential of a wrist worn discreat heart monitor that also masks as a watch. Get lots of people wearing them. detects you're having a heart attack, BEEP BEEEP BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP the entire area aroudn you knows and help is immediately there (not talking about online calling 911 or anything, just ppeople in your immediate vicinity). it would reduce time to receive CPR by minutes!
 
I have been against the idea of smartwatches. This does not sound like a watch though. More like a healthband as it's primary functionality.

or maybe iWatch as in "I am being watched", "it watches I (me)" ... get it the i watch watching the vitals of the user 'i'
 
Sweat detector would be useful as a way to measure exercise vigor among other things.
 
Sweat detector would be useful as a way to measure exercise vigor among other things.

Combined with blood oxygen levels, skin temp, etc.

What I can tell by some of the posters here going "why is sensor X, Y, or Z included, no one needs to know that!" is that people really don't understand the power of connecting multiple sensors together. You can combine motion, blood oxygen levels, and skin temp to find a variety of things out:

Sleep cycles
Current mood
Triggers for panic attacks, heart attacks, asthma attacks, etc.

Tim Cook said at D11 last year that the exploding market of sensors and their miniaturization is going to redefine industries….this year we get a first glimpse. :)
 
Combined with blood oxygen levels, skin temp, etc.



What I can tell by some of the posters here going "why is sensor X, Y, or Z included, no one needs to know that!" is that people really don't understand the power of connecting multiple sensors together. You can combine motion, blood oxygen levels, and skin temp to find a variety of things out:



Sleep cycles

Current mood

Triggers for panic attacks, heart attacks, asthma attacks, etc.



Tim Cook said at D11 last year that the exploding market of sensors and their miniaturization is going to redefine industries….this year we get a first glimpse. :)


Yes.
It's just more data.
How the data will be used will ultimately matter much more than what sensors are there.
 
The non-invasive continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) device, the HG1-c, may prove an end to finger-prick BM glucose monitoring. This is an impressive stride in technology! However, i fear the technology being in it's infancy, will not see it's way into clinical areas till confirmed as reliable and robust means of monitoring BMs
 
It sound very contradictory to me.
Awaiting certification and finalising specifications is not compatible with FDA or any notified body for that matter.

The article said the design and specs had been finalized and Apple was awaiting FDA approval before starting mass production. This is consistent with FDA Design Controls (CFR 820.30). The approval is not based upon whether the FDA likes the product, it is based upon whether Apple demonstrates it followed an internal design control process that is consistent with the FDA guidelines (i.e. is there a clear linkage between design inputs and design outputs).

Medical devices must go through the "510K Premarket Notification" process before the product can be put on the market.
 
What I can tell by some of the posters here going "why is sensor X, Y, or Z included, no one needs to know that!" is that people really don't understand the power of connecting multiple sensors together. You can combine motion, blood oxygen levels, and skin temp to find a variety of things out:

Sleep cycles
Current mood
...

Yep. Apple already has a patent pending on using sensors to determine our current mood, and serve up the appropriate ads.

This could, of course, be embarrassing if you're out on a blind date and your device keeps coming up with "Lonely and sad" advertisements.

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My question is: will we need new privacy laws? Lawyers already subpoena vehicle computer logs to see if we were speeding, smartphone logs to see who we texted and called. Imagine how much health insurance lawyers would love to see our health data. Or detectives to know if we were experiencing sex-like exertions during the time we were meeting with a co-worker or old flame.

Mind you, I'm all for our devices knowing more about us, as long as that info stays private.
 
Based on what I have read so far, I have a feeling that the iWatch will look more like a traditional watch, being its primary goal to gather health data from the user. I don't expect it to have a large colorful display with a lot of functions in it, as it would primarily work as an accessory for the iPhone.
 
This could, of course, be embarrassing if you're out on a blind date and your device keeps coming up with "Lonely and sad" advertisements.

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Still, could be worse...

at a funeral and it starts saying your aroused...
 
Yep. Apple already has a patent pending on using sensors to determine our current mood, and serve up the appropriate ads.

This could, of course, be embarrassing if you're out on a blind date and your device keeps coming up with "Lonely and sad" advertisements.

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My question is: will we need new privacy laws? Lawyers already subpoena vehicle computer logs to see if we were speeding, smartphone logs to see who we texted and called. Imagine how much health insurance lawyers would love to see our health data. Or detectives to know if we were experiencing sex-like exertions during the time we were meeting with a co-worker or old flame.

Mind you, I'm all for our devices knowing more about us, as long as that info stays private.
Given Apple's recent tangent on privacy,expect a lot more talk about secure enclaves and the such. Yes there is still data that can be collected, but NO ONE else is even giving thought to these services as ad tracking has been a way for the Nokias/Samsungs/Amazons to skim a bit of extra profit from it's consumers, and given that Android is designed to serve ads through data aggregation (google services) I don't see privacy being a selling point for a while.

Privacy from apple recently:

DuckDuckGo is now an option (search engine with no advertising hooks)
The ability to reset the ad identifier at will
Upcoming end to end encryption for emails


A big one: iOS8 now totally kills anonymous ad tracking. It sends out scrambled MAC addresses when scanning for wifi networks. Advertisers and police have been using MAC address logging on public wifi (as well as places like Starbucks and McDonalds) for a few years, and Apple's new MAC randomization stops it dead in its tracks.

Frankly I don't trust any multi-billion dollar company to not collect data, however, Apple is the only one that seems to be focusing on cracking down on third party data collection (like their implementation of third party keyboards) while not tooting their own horn about it.
 
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

If this rumour is indeed true and Apple has a glucose meter functionality in its iWatch then this will be a game changer that will rival the iPad.

Why is this? There are millions of Diabetes 1 and 2 persons reliant on glucose meters. The test strips for those alone generate a yearly global revenue of 10 Billion for that entire market combined. Considering the lack of convenience with test strips (ask any diabetes patient) they will gladly switch to a non-invasive version and pay premium amounts for it.

If indeed true, than Abbott Diabetes Care, Lifescan, Bayer and Roche have a serious problem.

And that is only the glucose part. If the other sensors are also FDA approved, then this watch will replace a whole host of different sensors that people use both from a personal fitness but also health perspective (as in prescribed blood pressure monitors etc).

I work for a technology consulting company that works in wearables, health monitoring and other medical applications. We see our market growing explosively and very rapidly expanding into consumer territory.

Fitbits and Fuelbands are only the tip of the iceberg here. Accurate (hence FDA approval) Health Tracking and data management is the next frontier. You personally might not be interested in it, but it is the case.

p.s. the global amount of people with diabetes increases with 2.3% each year. Mostly in China, Middle East and the USA. This is a fast growing market with the need for a consumer ready replacement for the test strip model.

No, it won't. That's a niche market. Features like that mean nothing to the majority of Apple's customers. Think of the "Your Verse" ads; people can do a lot of cool stuff with the iPad too, but you're not going to see most people writing orchestras on their iPads.

Will the iWatch be successful? Absolutely. There's very little Apple could sell that would not be successful. But it won't make the big splash that everybody is expecting. It will end up a hobby like the Apple TV was when it first came to market.

If you truly believe this is going to be the next big thing, I have some bridges I'd like to sell to you.

Tablets never caught on until Apple made one
Smartphones never caught on until Apple made one
MP3 Music Players never caught on until Apple made one.

;)

I expected somebody would comment that :p It's true, Apple has worked their magic in a lot of markets. But cell phones and MP3 players both have had mass appeal. Apple reached into a market that was ready to be blown open by a breakthrough product, and Apple delivered it. Health tracking does not have that same mass appeal. And while the iWatch is sure to be the most successful in the category, it's going to have a hard time establishing itself outside of its niche as a truly useful and successful product. If it doesn't offer anything substantial outside of the fitness market (other than being a glorified phone accessory) then it will have some trouble after the buzz wears off.

Is this extreme sarcasm? They caught on immensely.

That must be why Nike discontinued the Fuelband, right? :p
 
No, it won't. That's a niche market. Features like that mean nothing to the majority of Apple's customers. Think of the "Your Verse" ads; people can do a lot of cool stuff with the iPad too, but you're not going to see most people writing orchestras on their iPads.

Will the iWatch be successful? Absolutely. There's very little Apple could sell that would not be successful. But it won't make the big splash that everybody is expecting. It will end up a hobby like the Apple TV was when it first came to market.

If you truly believe this is going to be the next big thing, I have some bridges I'd like to sell to you.



I expected somebody would comment that :p It's true, Apple has worked their magic in a lot of markets. But cell phones and MP3 players both have had mass appeal. Apple reached into a market that was ready to be blown open by a breakthrough product, and Apple delivered it. Health tracking does not have that same mass appeal. And while the iWatch is sure to be the most successful in the category, it's going to have a hard time establishing itself outside of its niche as a truly useful and successful product. If it doesn't offer anything substantial outside of the fitness market (other than being a glorified phone accessory) then it will have some trouble after the buzz wears off.



That must be why Nike discontinued the Fuelband, right? :p

Exactly

They're in cahoots with apple now
 
No, it won't. That's a niche market. Features like that mean nothing to the majority of Apple's customers. Think of the "Your Verse" ads; people can do a lot of cool stuff with the iPad too, but you're not going to see most people writing orchestras on their iPads.

Will the iWatch be successful? Absolutely. There's very little Apple could sell that would not be successful. But it won't make the big splash that everybody is expecting. It will end up a hobby like the Apple TV was when it first came to market.

If you truly believe this is going to be the next big thing, I have some bridges I'd like to sell to you.
Now, I by no means want this to sound disrespectful, but are you prepared to visit this thread next year to reflect on this post?

Given the tools that iOS8 just handed to developers (extensions, amongst others), this watch is going to usher in a new wave of connectivity and smart controls. Wearables are the entry point for the upcoming decade of "the internet of things".


This is a big picture advancement.
 
I suppose this might have a smaller realistic addressable market than a phone or an MP3 player but let's be honest; not many people would have seen iPad being such a huge commercial success.

I still don't know why people want an iPad.
I have two and I never use them.
They just collect dust with the e-ink kindle.
 
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