Yeah, I initially had the price but couldn’t remember if it was 15 or 10 so I edited it out… and then there’s a 25 dollar one as well that adds in GPS.
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Report Examines GM's Controversial Move to Abandon Apple CarPlay
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Can't imagine owning a car without CarPlay. Use it literally everyday for my commute (maps, podcasts, and music)
Yes you can buy a phone mount and just use your phone but i find that solution inelegant. Nothing beats wireless CarPlay + wireless Charging.
Its one of the reason's i've never really considered owning a Tesla
Yes you can buy a phone mount and just use your phone but i find that solution inelegant. Nothing beats wireless CarPlay + wireless Charging.
Its one of the reason's i've never really considered owning a Tesla
This perfectly illustrates why GM is dropping CarPlay support; it’s not about having Apple Music access, it’s about charging for data which would normally be supplied by the phone which is mirrored. GM’s decision has nothing to do with their thinking they can provide a better experience; it has everything to do with selling services to the driver, and selling that driver’s data to 3rd party companies.
Exactly. I remember getting a notice from Nissan to upgrade my navigation maps on our 2005 Maxima - for $199.95. Since CarPlay, I have not had to deal with that crap - just update Apple Maps, Google Maps and Waze, and I'm good to go. On top of that, I get the complete interface to my phone and all of my apps and data included for no additional charge.
I also remember the pushback when one of the German carmakers (BMW or Mercedes-Benz) was charging a "fee" to even access CarPlay on their vehicles. The money grab in this area is off the charts, and it borders on obscene.
Probably, but if you have a modern car that doesn't use manually selectable boxes, you'll probably use 4WD when you're not aware of it.
I had a rear drive car once, (quite a powerful one), and I couldn't work out why the rear brakes were wearing faster than the fronts. Turns out the car was managing the power by applying the brakes to prevent spin and I was unaware of that.
That kind of thing is an order of magnitude more important to me than my phone apps appearing on the display. I have bluetooth so can speak and that is sufficient.
I do not want Apple anywhere near mission/life critical software. It cannot even get its first party apps that it has been coding for decades right.
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This is absolutely the case. EVs don’t have the trip to the garage every 3-6 months for an oil change, and the potential for other service add-ons while you’re there. They’re looking for a way to replace that revenue flow.
Their software mistakes, they will take responsibility. Why will they take responsibility for typical Apple shoddiness?
GM stops selling the Chevy Blazer EV to deal with ‘software quality issues’
A software update to address the problems is on the way.www.theverge.com
I think you overestimate GM's software quality. They had to stop selling cars because their (current, platform they're moving to for this discussion, that's ending carplay support) was breaking cars/making it so they couldn't charge/routinely sending them to the dealership.
I wonder if GM surveyed actual owners. As an owner....
Nissan has not.
Honda has.
BMW has.
Rivian did, but I don't have one (my brother-in-law picked his up two days ago)
how does it look in the dashboard?
(I had a 2013 M5 and would have never messed with the infotainment)
Your welcome to stay away from anything then where apple software is controlling the device. Your choice. 😁I do not want Apple anywhere near mission/life critical software. It cannot even get its first party apps that it has been coding for decades right.
Pretty great, IMO. I actually also have it in my e60 M5, but don't have any pictures on hand.
I've had two different versions in the M3.
First I went with a very stock looking head unit:
Then I went in and filled all available head unit space with carplay:
The button back lights on both is a pretty great match:
... couldn't sell my wife on putting it in our e39 M5, which is her daily, because she doesn't want any aftermarket parts
I'm working on selling her on this, which adds carplay to the stock 2001 M5 head unit:
Wireless CarPlay and AA on stock MKIV nav screen, including touch screen support! - NA M3 Forums
https://www.carphonics.co.uk/ibusappleplay.htm Can't believe I didn't see this until now! Retrains all original functionality, adds THE critical missing thing (at least, for me). Carphonics is a great company that has been solidly supporting the BMW (including e46/e39) community for years...
nam3forum.com
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I'd like to say, I actually am voting with my wallet on this.
My current plan is to buy a 2nd year of production new Land Cruiser (supports carplay). If GM adds carplay support to the Silverado EV before then, I will buy that instead. If they don't, they've lost me.
You're welcome to think that's as dumb as you want, but I keep cars a LONG time (see above-- I purchased that 2005 M3 new). The idea that I'm going to have 5-6 $75/month subscriptions to get a worse version of the same functionality I get now for free with carplay is ludicrous. $4500/year for degraded functionality and my information being sold is just stupid.
^$75/month is what GM's service is estimated to cost after the free trial period ends. Expand that over 5 cars and you get $4500/year-- For worse everything that what's free now with carplay.
My current plan is to buy a 2nd year of production new Land Cruiser (supports carplay). If GM adds carplay support to the Silverado EV before then, I will buy that instead. If they don't, they've lost me.
You're welcome to think that's as dumb as you want, but I keep cars a LONG time (see above-- I purchased that 2005 M3 new). The idea that I'm going to have 5-6 $75/month subscriptions to get a worse version of the same functionality I get now for free with carplay is ludicrous. $4500/year for degraded functionality and my information being sold is just stupid.
^$75/month is what GM's service is estimated to cost after the free trial period ends. Expand that over 5 cars and you get $4500/year-- For worse everything that what's free now with carplay.
I would be so livid if eight years into owning a car I may keep for twenty years I get a message saying I will have to start paying for services I'd been receiving as part of the driving experience. There are already a ton of ancillary recurring costs associated with owning a car (insurance, maintenance, replacing/swapping tires, registration, etc) that it is disgusting to ask for subscriptions for features built into the car.Kind of a flawed article. GM’s new “interface” is literally just Android. It’s “Android Automotive with Google Automotive Services”. Same as Volvo and Polestar now use.
You have Google Maps, Google Assistant and all the apps on the Google Play Store (automotive specific ones). An 8-year subscription is included when you buy the cars.
This reference to “Ultifi” is mostly all a behind-the-scenes OS running the rest of the car’s modules. It’s made by RedHat. Pretty much the whole car will be OTA updateable.
Red Hat and General Motors Collaborate to Trailblaze the Future of Software-Defined Vehicles
Industry leaders intend to redefine the transportation landscape with a continuous functional-safety certified, Linux-based in-vehicle operating systemwww.redhat.com
I wouldn't have bought a GM anyway, but this will make me avoid them as rentals.
I think a wiser move might have been to try to build a wrapper system around the CarPlay experience, possibly including dedicated App(s) to install on iOS to deepen the experience?
I wish them luck, but based on this, I'd avoid them extra now.
I think a wiser move might have been to try to build a wrapper system around the CarPlay experience, possibly including dedicated App(s) to install on iOS to deepen the experience?
I wish them luck, but based on this, I'd avoid them extra now.
I rented a late model x5 andnhad it for two weeks and out a few thousand miles in it. So I had enough time to really soak in the experience. The car play experience was quite good. In fact the whole x5 experience was quite good.Pretty great, IMO. I actually also have it in my e60 M5, but don't have any pictures on hand.
I've had two different versions in the M3.
First I went with a very stock looking head unit:
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Then I went in and filled all available head unit space with carplay:
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The button back lights on both is a pretty great match:
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... couldn't sell my wife on putting it in our e39 M5, which is her daily, because she doesn't want any aftermarket parts
I'm working on selling her on this, which adds carplay to the stock 2001 M5 head unit:
Wireless CarPlay and AA on stock MKIV nav screen, including touch screen support! - NA M3 Forums
https://www.carphonics.co.uk/ibusappleplay.htm Can't believe I didn't see this until now! Retrains all original functionality, adds THE critical missing thing (at least, for me). Carphonics is a great company that has been solidly supporting the BMW (including e46/e39) community for years...nam3forum.com
That article as was all about Blazer shoddiness; the infotainment screen blanked out with both systems so it wasn't Apple's fault.
We should all ignore Beautyspin. It's pretty clear at this point that he's just trolling.
I would’ve killed for that back when I had my E46 330Ci. I instead retrofitted the OE MK4 nav system. Fun times.Pretty great, IMO. I actually also have it in my e60 M5, but don't have any pictures on hand.
I've had two different versions in the M3.
First I went with a very stock looking head unit:
View attachment 2373964
Then I went in and filled all available head unit space with carplay:
View attachment 2373966
The button back lights on both is a pretty great match:
View attachment 2373971
... couldn't sell my wife on putting it in our e39 M5, which is her daily, because she doesn't want any aftermarket parts
I'm working on selling her on this, which adds carplay to the stock 2001 M5 head unit:
Wireless CarPlay and AA on stock MKIV nav screen, including touch screen support! - NA M3 Forums
https://www.carphonics.co.uk/ibusappleplay.htm Can't believe I didn't see this until now! Retrains all original functionality, adds THE critical missing thing (at least, for me). Carphonics is a great company that has been solidly supporting the BMW (including e46/e39) community for years...nam3forum.com
The Mr12Volt system for BMWs & other cars is the only way to go. Fiber optic input, so you don’t lose any audio quality, and it interfaces with the OE microphone. Installing that in my E90.
As for GM not including CarPlay on their cars, well… GM/domestic stuff really isn’t competitive these days. Hasn’t been since, what, 1965? Except for their trucks/behemoth SUVs.
We didn't have any snow that stuck to the pavement this past winter. just a little on the grass. Different needs. I still use CarPlay every single day. Bluetooth is too limited or I have to be fiddling with the phone. not ideal for me.
Wireless CarPlay uses Bluetooth to establish a connection with a car that is configured for wireless CarPlay. Once it connects, it sets up an adhoc Wifi connection for streaming the interface from the phone to the car. (since CarPlay runs entirely on the phone as a second screen visible in screen shots taken while running CarPlay.)
Your car is probably not setup for or does not have wireless CarPlay. That uses wifi to transmit the data. You may be using Bluetooth for the phone connection and wired CarPlay for the rest. You might check if your car has wireless CarPlay support.