my first question at a dealership is, does it have carplay?
Second question is, does this vehicle start?
Second question is, does this vehicle start?
BMW.What manufacturer are you referencing here? I've not yet seen one better than the CarPlay UI.
Well, imagine choosing a phone because of operating system… the OS for a device nowadays with all tech ecosystems is a very important factor, also for your car, as well as your TV, smart home …Even if it's the best thing in the world for you, imagine choosing a car because of carplay?
Which is nowhere near the same as gm discontinuing all phone projection, both carplay and android auto alike btwYup. That is true. They do not want to cede total control to Apple, which is what I mentioned.
Given that Tesla just laid off their teams that develop new cars I wouldnt bet on much other new stuff otherwise out of them for a while, at least not until musk is done throwing a tantrum because his $50B payout was blockedThe only acceptable option to CarPlay is Tesla, in my experience.
Still would love if Tesla gave us the option to use CarPlay
Yes. Yes. And yes.So, based on DOJ (and EU) logic, does this mean that GM is 'forcing lock-in' on their customers? Should they be forced to 'open their walled garden' and allow other software systems to be used as well? Are they a 'gatekeeper' by virtue of their dominant position in the automotive software segment?
Stick to what you're good at. GM should build cars and leave the infotainment to organizations that have this down pat already.
Why would Apple want to control speedometer and odometer? Perhaps Apple just wants to read that data. With HVAC it would be convenient if you're using multiple cars regularly to just get in and the HVAC are set to how you like them.I said - Apple wanted to control core functions of the vehicle like HVAC, as well as the speedometer and odometer. - That is CarPlay 2. Maybe Apple wanted more from GM, like 30% tax (just kidding), and GM decided not to play.
I get your point but unless all your cars are identical (make, model, trim, interior/exterior colors, etc.) comfortable HVAC settings in one vehicle mean squat in another.Why would Apple want to control speedometer and odometer? Perhaps Apple just wants to read that data. With HVAC it would be convenient if you're using multiple cars regularly to just get in and the HVAC are set to how you like them.
But at leatt Tesla has substantially refined their system and it works reasonably well.I won’t buy another car without CarPlay, no offense to those who would.
Sorry GM EVs and Tesla.
GM doesn’t have that big of a presence in Europe anymore, now that it has sold off Opel. So the EU may not see GM as an important gateway.If GM is prohibiting competitive navigation and entertainment systems aren’t they breaking the EU’s DMA too? Shouldn’t the EU force GM to allow CarPlay and Android Auto on vehicles sold in EU countries? Shouldn’t EU automobile owners be allowed to choose the navigation/entertainment system they desire?
What features do you enjoy? I’ve had a Tesla for nearly 5 years but have only used Apple CarPlay occasionally on rentals and some work vehicles.
I’ve found I prefer the map interactions and navigating on Tesla. Everything else kind of seems minor. I have my music on Apple Music without any issues, my calendar syncs and automatically will navigate me to the next location. I’ve never texted/called much to care. If I do, I’ll just grab my phone. I’d like to see Tesla open up app support.
You may be right but that doesn’t excuse GM for doing evil, like so many haters here claim Apple is.GM doesn’t have that big of a presence in Europe anymore, now that it has sold off Opel. So the EU may not see GM as an important gateway.
They're not going go with extended carplay. Anything you connect with Bluetooth (or maybe corded, I do not know) is fine with them as they would not want to be foolish enough to handover the essential functions to Apple, knowing that they would hold them hostage at a later date.Incorrect, Mercedes won't allow the *full* CarPlay takeover (entire UI including speedometer) but didn't say they would ditch CarPlay completely.
Exactly, why should Apple even think of controlling speedometer and odometer? However, according to theverge, this is what Apple wants to do. Can you tell Apple that it is a stupid move just as you told me? Perhaps it will listen to you.Why would Apple want to control speedometer and odometer? Perhaps Apple just wants to read that data. With HVAC it would be convenient if you're using multiple cars regularly to just get in and the HVAC are set to how you like them.
I was in that camp too, but now that Tesla has the Apple Music app I’m ok with no CarPlay in my Tesla. Tesla’s software is good enough😊. If GM can do something similar, more power to ‘m. CarPlay was a superior experience in my previous two cars (Ford and BMW). Not so much in the Tesla.I won’t buy another car without CarPlay, no offense to those who would.
Sorry GM EVs and Tesla.
Made that mistake once. Never again. How do they have any repeat customers? Do they just sell to GM employees and their families?The real question is, who would purchase a GM vehicle in the first place?