My thoughts exactly. If a vehicle is not equipped with CarPlay, then I will not lease it. It’s probably the most important feature for me when looking at new cars.
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Report Examines GM's Controversial Move to Abandon Apple CarPlay
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My thoughts exactly. If a vehicle is not equipped with CarPlay, then I will not lease it. It’s probably the most important feature for me when looking at new cars.
Maybe the EUC will force companies to offer choices as they are for "everything" else.
Won't get a car without carplay
Won't get a car without carplay
Apple ditched Google Maps and faced a backlash. They have recovered after years of floundering with their own maps. Why? Because they did not want to depend on Google. Already, people are giving importance to Carplay and Android Auto. If they let these to further entrench themselves, they will be manufacturing $40,000 to $400,000 cars but will be dependent on the whims of fancies of Apple and Google. Better face the backlash today rather than use them to bolster the sales today but become entirely locked into their ecosystem.
My sister complains about disconnects in their Fords and carplay all the time.
Ok. I will let theverge and the Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius know that theverge article has a factual error.
As mentioned before - Mercedes is not dropping CarPlay - they just aren’t implementing the CarPlay 2.0 features that enable it to display more car functions such as climate controls, speed, etc.
I haven't seen anyone say they'd choose a car only because of CarPlay. But in a world of abundant options with CarPlay, it makes absolute sense for Apple users to eliminate cars without it.
You dont actually seem to understand what phone projection is
And not in a Ford lol. The wi-fi was probably crap if it was the wireless version, I know it is in my parents’ Buick (big surprise 🙄)
Apple came back from Google Maps fiasco stronger and now they are not dependent on Google Maps. From the posts here, people seem to be giving importance to Carplay/Android Auto more than the car company. So, instead of the control being in the hands of the car companies, it seems to have gone into the hands of Apple and Google. Better face the backlash today rather than depend on them for sales today and become entirely locked into their ecosystem.
I actually agree with Mercedes on this one. I love CarPlay. It is definitely been a determining factor on the cars that I have bought.
That said, I think Apple is overreaching in wanting to expand to control any aspect of the vehicle beyond what is offered in CarPlay.
If you had followed my posts, you would have seen that I have quoted several passages from the article. They are not going to give all the screens to Apple today and regret it later. If Apple had not initiated taking over all the functions of the car, there would have been no friction from the companies. Not a smart move by Apple.
Which is why they (Mercedes) is going with Google for their native navigation system. Which is what I stated. So, not sure what you meant by your comment.
Didn’t GM just get a huge fine for selling customer location data?
Seems like they decided to double down on customer data.
Seems like they decided to double down on customer data.
True, except that GM will have a hard time quantifying the sales they lost due to this issue. I may be a case in point here, as I'm looking in a segment for which Cadillac, a GM nameplate, has some good contenders. I would not consider Cadillac because of this, but GM won't know that unless they happen to read this forum. How many other potential customers could they have had, whom they will never know they lost?
GM's recent history with customer data... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html
If you base your car decision on Carplay, then you are certainly a phone guy and not a car guy! lol
Honestly, if my SuperDuty had a native Waze app, I could care less about Carplay. Add that neither the Ford Sync or Carplay will let me browse my own library easily while driving, even with a passenger (my Mopar uConnects never had this limitation) and as far as I am concerned they both suck.
As for GM, they stuck with OnStar for years after everyone else had superior services so who knows. I know Stellantis said a couple years ago that they expect over $2B in revenue from subscription services in. the next few years so I doubt GM will be the last to try to milk this.
Honestly, if my SuperDuty had a native Waze app, I could care less about Carplay. Add that neither the Ford Sync or Carplay will let me browse my own library easily while driving, even with a passenger (my Mopar uConnects never had this limitation) and as far as I am concerned they both suck.
As for GM, they stuck with OnStar for years after everyone else had superior services so who knows. I know Stellantis said a couple years ago that they expect over $2B in revenue from subscription services in. the next few years so I doubt GM will be the last to try to milk this.
Proof please. Too many of you come in trying to claim Apple "sells your data" and the like just because you think it happens.
Same here. Terrible move by GM. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if their new system had the capability to enable CarPlay support with a software update (IOW, execs keeping that door open as a last resort, just in case the plan doesn't work out).
That's not extended CarPlay. That's BMW's interface on the left and CarPlay on the right. What BMW does (which is my preferred approach) is to use data from CarPlay in their own interface. That's very different from what extended CarPlay will do.
Exactly - it's very difficult to prove a negative...no one's going to make a trip to a GM dealer just to say they aren't going to buy anything because of no CarPlay.