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As a developer I hate the question that is asked and how it is asked.

I think at this point, it should just be asked when you setup the phone and be done with it. App's should not have to ask this question when its launched the first time. Just get it over with for the user, let them change it in settings if they want. But I don't want to ask it when my app is opened or have to deal with it when every app is opened the first time.
I don't give a damn what you think about how the question is asked. It's MY data, not yours, and I will decide how it is to be used.

Make the app ask them EVERY SINGLE TIME when it's first opened.
 
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I don't give a damn what you think about how the question is asked. It's MY data, not yours, and I will decide how it is to be used.

Make the app ask them EVERY SINGLE TIME when it's first opened.
As a developer myself, I have respect for peoples privacy. The whole earning money by harvesting user data attitude needs to change IMO. I sometimes ask for details like email and survey type things. But it’s your choice to provide it. Not mine.
 
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If it's a choice between making life better for the end user and making life easier for the developers, the choice is easy. Developers are already able to wear the big boys pants. They don't need to be coddled. End users are a varied bunch, with 90% needing to be protected from themselves. I'm siding with Craig.
 
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As a developer myself, I have respect for peoples privacy. The whole earning money by harvesting user data attitude needs to change IMO. I sometimes ask for details like email and survey type things. But it’s your choice to provide it. Not mine.
I personally would like to see more apps to be able to use unused cycle time of the gpu to mine while using the app. All earnings would goto the dev. Move away from ads.. Pipe dream maybe..
 
As a developer I hate the question that is asked and how it is asked.

I think at this point, it should just be asked when you setup the phone and be done with it. App's should not have to ask this question when its launched the first time. Just get it over with for the user, let them change it in settings if they want. But I don't want to ask it when my app is opened or have to deal with it when every app is opened the first time.
Ya this is why I’m a fan of Apples wall garden. We just don’t trust developers to do the right thing with our personal information.

If you want to harvest peoples personal information goto Android.

To be fair this applies to product managers as well. It always starts with…

“Oh man we have their name/address… we can use that data and find out their medium income based on the neighborhood they live in. Then we can partner with another company and market more stuff to them”
 
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So internally, 2 of the 3 executives were more concerned about App Store revenue than the users’ best interests…

I wonder if relates to their stance on IAP in the App Store at all. ?
 
The more that comes out about Cue the more I realize that he was actually pretty bad for the company’s culture and often advocated for policies that go counter to the company’s overall mission. No doubt he was good for driving up service profits and creating higher walls to the garden. Doesn’t seem like cue ever had the user in mind
 
So the one executive who has nothing to do with the App Store or ads took the most hardline position. And this is somehow newsworthy?
 
I was just thinking this myself. While I don't have anything against Shiller or Cue, Federighi seems to be the most likely candidate to replace Tim.
Certainly not, if Tim were to step down today, which isn’t likely at all but if it were to happen, it would not be the leader of software engineering who takes his place.
It would be someone who knows the company in and out, including the supply chain, international relations, etc.
Mark Gurman actually wrote an article about this, and his four most likely successors to Tim Cook are Jeff Williams, Greg Joswiak, Deirdre O’Brien or John Ternus
 
I have mine turned off in settings an I'm never asked on a new app.
This is the point that seems to be missed in every article I read about this feature. I believe the setting to "Allow Apps to Request to Track" is off by default, correct? So users have to opt in before apps can even ask, and if they don't tracking is denied across the board. And the vast majority of users have not changed this setting, if I understand correctly. So the whole asking app by app part of this is moot for nearly everyone. But maybe I'm missing something.
 
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Makes you wonder how the internal debates were around implementing CSAM. Glad Apple didn’t bring it to fruition!

“If you dont care about privacy because you have nothing to hide,
“would you care about free speech if you had nothing to say”
 
Who else agrees Craig should be the next CEO?

Reasons why Craig Federighi should be the next Apple CEO:
1. Works in references to RUSH's music when he can.
2. That hair.
3. He's very intentional about inspiring positive energy and exudes a contagious delight that never goes over the top (IMO). How many times has he gotten in front of the camera with all of that, while there's a crap of stuff going on for him behind the scenes?

I don't know much about Craig F but of the current lot of Sr. VPs - and they all bring great things to the iTable - he's the natural choice to step in for Mr. Tim when he's ready.

(In fact, I'd be cool with Tim taking CEO Emeritus for a year or two - or something along those lines, regardless of who replaces him, so that the perception of leadership transition is easier. Cook can focus on brand evangelism to the powers that be [namely the political ones]. He's done quite well, it seems, in that regard compared to other Big Tech leaders.)
 
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I don't give a damn what you think about how the question is asked. It's MY data, not yours, and I will decide how it is to be used.

Make the app ask them EVERY SINGLE TIME when it's first opened.

I agree it's your data. Thats why make it ask one time when you setup your device with a better message of what it does and it gets applied to all apps.

You shouldn't ask every time you open the app that doesn't do any good as the app developer has no control to turn the setting back on.

Or just get rid of the IDFA completely at this point because its basically useless. Just make it return Zero for everyone. Asking this message does not help you keep yourself private like you think it magically does.
 
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Ya this is why I’m a fan of Apples wall garden. We just don’t trust developers to do the right thing with our personal information.

If you want to harvest peoples personal information goto Android.

To be fair this applies to product managers as well. It always starts with…

“Oh man we have their name/address… we can use that data and find out their medium income based on the neighborhood they live in. Then we can partner with another company and market more stuff to them”
What is it you think ANY APP cannot obtain? You do know APPS can obtain everything about you yes?
 
Huh.. so the overseer of software engineer is against tracking, but the App Store manager and head of services is not. Sounds about right
 
Huh.. so the overseer of software engineer is against tracking, but the App Store manager and head of services is not. Sounds about right
It is, actually. Craig is in charge of the "big picture" from a software engineering perspective that includes ensuring the users and the user's security and safety are front and center of the end product software. Eddie and Phil are in charge of parts of the ecosystem that needs their customers (developers) to make money so Apple can make money. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall of the discussions that took place; I'm sure they were epic.
 
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The more that comes out about Cue the more I realize that he was actually pretty bad for the company’s culture and often advocated for policies that go counter to the company’s overall mission. No doubt he was good for driving up service profits and creating higher walls to the garden. Doesn’t seem like cue ever had the user in mind
I’m not a huge fan of Cue myself, but interestingly, one of the things we learned from the Epic trial was that he was the one who initially advocated for Apple to begin developing iMessage for Android. It was then Craig who pushed back that iMessage on Android would hurt more than help and only give parents a reason to buy their children a cheaper Android phone. So in that case it was actually Craig who was focused on the walled garden. So it’s interesting that the dynamic here is much different.
 
Didn't we all sign up on this website and give some info before we could log in some of us are on twitter instagram FB and other apps banking or otherwise and we are worried about being tracked then get rid of credit reports
 
As a developer I hate the question that is asked and how it is asked.

I think at this point, it should just be asked when you setup the phone and be done with it. App's should not have to ask this question when its launched the first time. Just get it over with for the user, let them change it in settings if they want. But I don't want to ask it when my app is opened or have to deal with it when every app is opened the first time.
I see your point. But I don't get asked very often. Was probably an annoyance when first implemented.

OT: My biggest approval issue is how many sites make you ask each time about being tracked. Can't they store a cookie to say leave me alone. I wouldn't mind a universal setting for minimal tracking on site. A popup if they really need to know where I live.
 
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