Report: In-Display Fingerprint Scanner Market Grew Eightfold in 2019

[Derekeys]

I miss Touch ID. Between having to do the awkward crane dance when my phone is lying flat and the misfires that occur requiring me to put in my password due to glances at the phone for notifications without putting my face into view is so frustrating.

Does anyone else glance at their phone at an off angle just to see the notifications really quickly? When this occurs a few times in a row, Face ID resets and requires me to put in my password.

The other thing I miss is authentication for apple pay with the fingerprint as the wake, authenticate, and pay was ONE move.

Now it's double click (whoops screenshot, squeezed too tight), look at my phone, and hold near reader.

Face ID is awesome for when the initiation for Face ID occurs without having to double click, I think a simple fix there would be to use on screen buttons instead of hardware. Apple Watch double click for pay is also annoying, I wish there was the same feature of just holding it near the reader to initialize the payment process.

And a huge thing I've wanted since Face ID was created was the ability to go right to the home screen without swiping up on the phone. I will say that this would be a great OPTION by choice, but definitely not a default.

Raise to wake > authenticate (blow by the notifications screen) > Home

Alas, I am grateful for the security of it, and that it does work well when you use it as intended, but I would buy an iPhone with Touch ID on the side or back over one with Face ID any day of the week as screen size is more important to me than my little whiney issues.

 

[falainber]

It’s so slow on my work phone (Galaxy A30s). Quite a few errors too. Sometimes I miss the scanner when trying to unlock from a black screen (you have to guess where it is).

In my phone, it feels like a cheap feature and it makes me appreciate FaceID even more. Of course, the A30s is no flagship.

A30 is a fourth tier model from Samsung with cheap processor which might be a reason why it is slow.

 

[mi7chy]

It takes a pandemic to demonstrate that iris scanner is the best for use with mask and without touching. Second is fingerprint scanner that is mask friendly but requires touch.

 

[44267547]

It takes a pandemic to demonstrate that iris scanner is the best for use with mask and without touching.

1.) The iris scanner has a higher failure rate for successfully unlocking (There is sufficient discussion with Samsung’s), and it’s not nearly instantaneous as Face ID/Touch ID is.

2.) You’re still touching your phone when you ‘pick it up to unlock it’, even if you don’t have to physically touch The display. Your point about not touching is canceled out.

 

[I7guy]

It takes a pandemic to demonstrate that iris scanner is the best for use with mask and without touching. Second is fingerprint scanner that is mask friendly but requires touch.

The fingerprint scanner doesn't work with gloves. And as @Relentless Power noted, if one is shopping with masks and gloves the phone is still being touched to unlock it. And the iris scanner has difficulty working with sunglasses, even though at times it may work. So basically when sunglasses, mask and gloves none of these biometric methods really work well.

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[D.T.]

2.) You’re still touching your phone when you ‘pick it up to unlock it’, even if you don’t have to physically touch The display. Your point about not touching is canceled out.

Clearly he meant using a touch sensor (aka, fingerprint scanner), vs. just coming in physical contact with the phone - I think it's a given you have to have some contact with your device unless you're using telekinesis

 

[Johnny907]

Why, it's almost like there is a huge market for in-screen fingerprint verification or something.

 

[mi7chy]

Clearly he meant using a touch sensor (aka, fingerprint scanner), vs. just coming in physical contact with the phone - I think it's a given you have to have some contact with your device unless you're using telekinesis

He's just quick to apologize instead of thinking. Just prop it up on a surface, proximity or ToF sensor triggers iris scan unlock then use voice commands to operate phone. Beats having to pull down mask to swipe up and unlock with Face ID or repeatedly touching the screen to input six digit pin.

 

[I7guy]

He's just quick to apologize instead of thinking. Just prop it up on a surface, proximity or ToF sensor triggers iris scan unlock then use voice commands to operate phone. Beats having to pull down mask to swipe up and unlock with Face ID or repeatedly touching the screen to input six digit pin.

This is the epitome of a niche use case blown out of proportion to prove a non-existent point.

 

[Octavius8]

now the most notorious un-innovative company in the world. Please Apple, copy some ideas from somebody!. Not the same since Steve...

 

[I7guy]

now the most notorious un-innovative company in the world. Please Apple, copy some ideas from somebody!. Not the same since Steve...

You want them to continue to be notorious and un-innovative by copying ideas? /s

 

[Octavius8]

I think can all agree FaceID is better in most situations, but I would still like TouchID to make a return for those cases where it isn’t always convenient.

Not in my opinion. TouchId was more convenient for me than faceId. I have to move myself and the phone to be aligned for faceID to work. If am lying on the bed, if the phone is on the table, etc. it wont work. If I am in a meeting and want to unlock it, everybody knows I am unlocking my phone. TouchId they say is "more secure", but in reality there have been sooooo many cases of kids unlocking their parents phones with faceid than persons having the equivalent figerprint to unlock a phone that is not theirs. Marketing can explain whatever they want, but the truth is that. Period. So, for me at least, touchId was MUCH more convenient and safe. At home now you have to worry that your kids can unlock your phone with their face, with touchID, I never worried that it as unsafe.
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You want them to continue to be notorious and un-innovative by copying ideas? /s

Yeap, if they can not innovate or are to slow to do it, which seems to be the case in ios 13 and iphone 11pro, comparatively to asian brands. And many times good progress comes from adopting and improving on others ideas. The chinese copied some ideas of Apple, and now they are leaders, specially on the camera department, multi user/profile management of apps, edge to edge display; etc. Apple is leader on pricing, manufacture and surely 1 or 2 things else. I hate Android UI, but with Apple we have slower and slower and slower innovations. Why apple did not launch a 90 o 120Hz display on iphones in 2018 or 2019, while Ipads pro got it?, and many asian phones have it now?. Retina level screen was as first on apple devices, why no more break-trough, "copy me"-level innovaitons since iphone X
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[I7guy]

Not in my opinion. TouchId was more convenient for me than faceId. I have to move myself and the phone to be aligned for faceID to work. If am lying on the bed, if the phone is on the table, etc. it wont work. If I am in a meeting and want to unlock it, everybody knows I am unlocking my phone. TouchId they say is "more secure", but in reality there have been sooooo many cases of kids unlocking their parents phones with faceid than persons having the equivalent figerprint to unlock a phone that is not theirs. Marketing can explain whatever they want, but the truth is that. Period. So, for me at least, touchId was MUCH more convenient and safe. At home now you have to worry that your kids can unlock your phone with their face, with touchID, I never worried that it as unsafe.

Did you hear about the scenario where the kid unlocked sleeping mom's phone by pressing her thumb against the home button and how many more cases were there of that? You can pick and choose your scenario. How many tens of millions of phones with face id were sold? And how many verified cases of face id to not distinguish faces. I don't think there are any verified cases, or one or two, that were reported through credentialed journalists and not youtube.

Yeap, if they can not innovate or are to slow to do it, which seems to be the case in ios 13 and iphone 11pro, comparatively to asian brands.

I don't agree with this. And to prove or disprove the point we would have to agree on the definition of innovation, which probably will not happen.

And many times good progress comes from adopting and improving on others ideas. The chinese copied some ideas of Apple, and now they are leaders, specially on the camera department,

Not really. How many phones can take images simultaneously from all lenses? Zoom is no longer innovation. Dynamic hdr in video is innovation.

multi user/profile management of apps, edge to edge display; etc. Apple is leader on pricing, manufacture and surely 1 or 2 things else. I hate Android UI, but with Apple we have slower and slower and slower innovations. Why apple did not launch a 90 o 120Hz display on iphones in 2018 or 2019, while Ipads pro got it?, and many asian phones have it now?. Retina level screen was as first on apple devices, why no more break-trough, "copy me"-level innovaitons since iphone X
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You're confusing feature with innovation. Multi user profile management has been around in computers for years. Edge to edge has been around for at least 6 years. But Apple upended the world with touch id, 64 bit, face id are the big ones. 120hz display is a feature today not an innovation and Samsung seems to have some restrictions with theirs, showing it's not a panacea.

It all goes back to the definition of "innovation", which is shown on MR forum to be personal and fluid.

 

[AbhijitD]

Samsung's in display fingerprint is too buggy. Hopefully, Apple will test this thoroughly for accuracy before implementing it. It opens up possibility of false positives. And that I think is more important.

 

[Tech198]

I guess you must have multiple ways in a phone... What if FaceID fails? You can say as long as TouchID remains, we'll always have to re-train it

Samsung's in display fingerprint is too buggy. Hopefully, Apple will test this thoroughly for accuracy before implementing it. It opens up possibility of false positives. And that I think is more important.

Nothing can ever be 100% right.

 

[seek3r]

Putting Touch ID on laptops made zero sense once face ID was available

I'd rather not have my camera on and pointed at my face all the time when working, and I have a lens cover on it as a result. A lot of workplaces actually require a lens cover for that matter. Also, explicitly authorizing something is better as an action you have to take (reaching to the fingerprint reader) than a passive one (looking at the camera already pointed at you) when it's a device you're parked in front of. Also a lot of people dock their machines (as I do) and while reaching over to authorize something is something I can do without taking my eyes from my workflow on my main display, the same isn't true of faceid.

I just wish Apple authorized external fingerprint readers, or had a keyboard with it embedded, so that if docked and in clamshell mode I'd still be able to use biometrics. Would be helpful on Mac Pros/Minis too.