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I’ve had my iPhone 7 since launch and have been holding out for promotion. I hope it’s finally coming out! Gonna get 5 years out of this phone. Used to upgrade every 2 years starting with the 4. A 5 year upgrade will be amazing especially with promotion.
 
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looks like always on display coming next year. I really don’t get why apples needs to wait for these displays? Android has fine battery life with AOD.
 
If they leverage this tech, they could have lock screens like the Moto Q’s. Always liked the way they did their Lock Screen. I want the option to not light the whole thing up, just give me the notifications.
 
Can anybody explain what has happened to R+D in batteries? We seem to be making leaps in screen tech, camera tech, 5G, manufacturing et al. But batteries are still a shocking mess.

In my naive world after a decade of the iphone and the mass adoption of the smart phone in general, I would expect this tech to give at least a 3 day battery life with use.

Might as well ask what's happened to R&D in computer processors, remember Moore's law? Number of transistors were expected to double every year and double in speed. And for a while they did, huge leaps and bounds. Now, not so much even though there are more people working in the field. That's the way of all technology, it grows the fastest in its infancy and slows down when it's more mature because there are few opportunities for improvement.

The first true battery was invented in 1800, although Benjamin Franklin had a series of capacitors that he called a battery (they did store power, albeit short time). In 1836 the first commercial battery was invented, ' the Daniell Cell.' And so on and so on. Quite a lot of innovation in the 19th century, including the first lead-acid battery (1859). Nickel-iron, alkaline, lithium ion in the 20th century.

And battery use increased, smart phones aren't the start of it all. People have beens using batteries in toys, flashlights, radios, cameras, etc. for a century. There has been a LOT of motivation for a better battery even before cell phones. That's why we have lithium ion today.

Point is, batteries are a mature field. It even has a noble prize (2019) for the lithium ion battery. A lot of research is going on come up with the next battery design, but it's a lot harder than it would appear because all the easy to discover stuff has already been discovered.

It is easy to say, just make a better battery, not so easy to do, because it already has been done before over and over.
 
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Can anybody explain what has happened to R+D in batteries? We seem to be making leaps in screen tech, camera tech, 5G, manufacturing et al. But batteries are still a shocking mess.

In my naive world after a decade of the iphone and the mass adoption of the smart phone in general, I would expect this tech to give at least a 3 day battery life with use.
I've read some answers to your query and from someone who follows battery tech closely but is not an expert all I can tell you is there is a lot of R&D going on right now. The thing is for the average person who is going about their lives batteries seem like something fairly simple but in reality, once you get into the weeds you realize how complex and difficult battery tech is and why there are experts in the field, so unless your getting opinions from one of those experts I'd suggest ignoring anyone opinion as they only "think" they know what they are talking about.

With that out of the way the true thing that has been said is taking new battery tech out of the lab and into something that can be mass-produced is not easy so even if there is some breakthrough it'll be a while before you could replicate it for mass production. That breakthrough has to be significant enough to convince current battery manufacturers to invest the time and money to produce them.

That is the major reason why battery tech seems so slow. When in reality it hasn't been more robust or serious in all of battery tech history.
 
looks like always on display coming next year. I really don’t get why apples needs to wait for these displays? Android has fine battery life with AOD.
In apples eyes battery life wasnt good enough but ltpo would fix that like with the Apple Watch
 
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2021 is shaping up to be a great year to upgrade my 11 Pro. I wonder if this new display tech will give us the same always on we see in Apple Watch? ProMotion with AoD, potentially smaller notch, bigger camera upgrades, more extensive 5G network to take advantage of as well. Would be awesome if the Pro models got TouchID in the power button on top of FaceID.
 
LPTO means they can be able to place promotion without a big hit for battery
So , i guess we all knew this already, iphone 13 will have promotion, at least those 2 Pro models
Fingers crossed for ProMotion, I didn't change this year but I'm on the market for a new iPhone in 2021 and a new display would be more exciting than 5G to me
 
Apple Watch Series 5 and 6 battery life sucks despite LTPO.
My Apple Watch Series 5 44mm is over a year old, Always On is always turned on, and even with putting my watch on around 6:30am and 40 min workouts, I am ending the day around 9:30pm with 50%+ charge remaining. How is that bad battery life?
 
iphone 14将具有令人讨厌的新功能和新功能,这些东西将使iphone 13失去吸引力,因此您不妨等待
 
Can anybody explain what has happened to R+D in batteries? We seem to be making leaps in screen tech, camera tech, 5G, manufacturing et al. But batteries are still a shocking mess.

In my naive world after a decade of the iphone and the mass adoption of the smart phone in general, I would expect this tech to give at least a 3 day battery life with use.
Back before iPhone 4 released, Apple was filing patents for an under display solar charging system. This is what I thought was the answer. Something that could constantly recharge the battery...more from sunlight, less from ambient indoor light. But always recharging. This was probably discarded due to the fact that it aged the lithium batteries significantly. But someone thought it was good idea regardless of what it did to the batteries.

But a system like that is the future. Incorporate solar to harness the free energy aspect of it, and extend the life of the device from hours to days potentially, depending on conditions and efficiency. All that is needed to really pull this off is a battery that can handle this type of "abuse".
 
What I want is a phone and an iPad that I can use for more than 4 hours when the marketing claims they will last fo 10 or more. If this display helps with that great but I expect that Apple will reduce battery capacity to compensate.
 
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