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Back before iPhone 4 released, Apple was filing patents for an under display solar charging system. This is what I thought was the answer. Something that could constantly recharge the battery...more from sunlight, less from ambient indoor light. But always recharging. This was probably discarded due to the fact that it aged the lithium batteries significantly. But someone thought it was good idea regardless of what it did to the batteries.

But a system like that is the future. Incorporate solar to harness the free energy aspect of it, and extend the life of the device from hours to days potentially, depending on conditions and efficiency. All that is needed to really pull this off is a battery that can handle this type of "abuse".

Ya know, I'm the king of "charge anxiety" when dealing with my phone, but I've come to realize the solutions to this on the open market sufficiently negate the need for drastic improvements in battery life in devices like Phones.

Figure, they're making a device that the majority of people using will at some course of the day be within practical distance of grid power or 12V power at some point. External battery packs have become so commonplace they are available in large retail chains cheap.

The most time I spend away from the ability to charge my phone is when I take the commuter train into the city to see my doctors and for imaging. There is 110V power on the train, but it's not very accessible. I typically pack for the trip taking an external battery pack that is more than robust, and a 30W wall charger. When on the train, I keep my phone topped off with the battery pack (I carry a backpack) and charge the battery pack at the hospital. So by the time I'm headed home, the pack and the phone are both fully charged.

When driving, I use my vehicle's USB ports or a 12V plug in to charge. I would say a majority of vehicles today have a cigar lighter 12V port on them.

Wireless charging makes this even less of an issue. When I'm at my desk, my phone sits in a wireless Qi charger I got from Anker for less than $20. It's a practical way to keep the phone on my desk and charges it at the same time.

I as of yet have had my 12 Pro below 50% and my old Xr only dropped below 50 when I forgot to have my equpipment with me.
 
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What I want is a phone and an iPad that I can use for more than 4 hours when the marketing claims they will last fo 10 or more. If this display helps with that great but I expect that Apple will reduce battery capacity to compensate.
I dunno there was rumours the batteries were big if they had 120hz in them but decided against it for a smaller battery. I wouldn’t rule out bigger batteries being put in next year....
 
120 Hz Pro motion please, couldn't give a damn about LTPO. You won't get me buying a new phone until you do, even cheap android phones have it!
LTPO is the very thing that allows OLED to have a variable refresh rate ie PROMOTION. The first wave of high Hz OLEDs had crap colour gamut. The second could only toggle manually between high & low (120/90 & 60). They've only just began to implement the means to mass produce LTPO phone screens. So Promotion phones were never going to happen until 2021. You not giving a damn doesn't change reality.
 
LTPO is the very thing that allows OLED to have a variable refresh rate ie PROMOTION. The first wave of high Hz OLEDs had crap colour gamut. The second could only toggle manually between high & low (120/90 & 60). They've only just began to implement the means to mass produce LTPO phone screens. So Promotion phones were never going to happen until 2021. You not giving a damn doesn't change reality.
Yep indeed, only two phones currently have LTPO i believe and thats note ultra and fold 2. It also costs more to have the panels for LTPO according to Ross young so we may see a price increase but will see i guess.
 
please just change the oled screen so it doesn't give me headaches and eyestrain. I want to upgrade from my iphone11 :)
 
120 Hz Pro motion please, couldn't give a damn about LTPO. You won't get me buying a new phone until you do, even cheap android phones have it!
what? the LTPO is the reason why Promotion (1hz-120hz) will be enabled so you should give a damn about it
 
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What I want is a phone and an iPad that I can use for more than 4 hours when the marketing claims they will last fo 10 or more. If this display helps with that great but I expect that Apple will reduce battery capacity to compensate.
On the iPhones they will add ProMotion to compensate. The iPads will get mini LED instead of OLED/LTPO.
 
iPhone 13 mini with no notch, better battery life, touch ID on the side would be the PERFECT phone!

Lets make it a Pro mini with the better camera array as well please! My better half is getting the 12 Mini, I'm going to run my XS another year and hope for a Pro mini next year.

I am
Still waiting for my 12 pro max to come and already talking about 13 🤦🏻‍♂️

Welcome to Mac Rumors, where this happens every year. Enjoy your obsolete phone (just kidding).
 
Can anybody explain what has happened to R+D in batteries? We seem to be making leaps in screen tech, camera tech, 5G, manufacturing et al. But batteries are still a shocking mess.

In my naive world after a decade of the iphone and the mass adoption of the smart phone in general, I would expect this tech to give at least a 3 day battery life with use.
I'm no expert, but if I had to hazard a guess, it is probably the laws of physics.
 
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