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Don't you think that Steve Job's goal was to make Apple a profit machine? He cut product lines, and initiatives all in the name of profits when he first arrived at apple.

Tim Cook is anyhting but the problem, while I'm not a fan of him, its hard to say he's done anything other then succeed wildly. Any metric you use to measure success, Apple and Tim cook exceeds.

You may not like what apple turned into, and that's fine but the foundation of that new look was laid and built up by Steve Jobs.
If you can't see the difference....I can't help you.
 
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"Salespeople should use "audience refinement" instead of saying "targeting," "platform" instead of "algorithm," and "competitor keywords" and "brand defenses" instead of "conquesting.""

This is why 2022 (and onwards) will be like 1984.

Last year I saw the movie demolition man, and this sounds more demolition man than 1984.
 
"Salespeople should use "audience refinement" instead of saying "targeting," "platform" instead of "algorithm," and "competitor keywords" and "brand defenses" instead of "conquesting.""

This is why 2022 (and onwards) will be like 1984.
I’m so impressed with this comment, merely upvoting it doesn’t seem like enough recognition
 
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Don't you think that Steve Job's goal was to make Apple a profit machine? He cut product lines, and initiatives all in the name of profits when he first arrived at apple.

Tim Cook is anyhting but the problem, while I'm not a fan of him, its hard to say he's done anything other then succeed wildly. Any metric you use to measure success, Apple and Tim cook exceeds.

You may not like what apple turned into, and that's fine but the foundation of that new look was laid and built up by Steve Jobs.
Certainly, Jobs was a greedy businessman just like Cook is. The difference between them is that Jobs had the rare combination of having business acumen with the beating heart of an artist.

No way Tim Cook would give a typeface a second of thought where Jobs would not only think but obsess about getting it right.

"Those who dream by night, in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible."

Tim Cook the former, Steve Jobs the latter.
 
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Hardly.

What the iPhone shortage simply means is that people will defer their iPhone purchases from this quarter to the next. The net result will be that Apple reports less revenue this quarter, and makes up for it in the next.

Subscription prices are up because content costs more to make / license, and ads are there because Apple is in a unique position to facilitate a relationship between developers and customers while continuing to respect our privacy.

Ad revenue is also a drop in the bucket compared to iPhone revenue, so I have no idea how anyone could in their right mind imagine that Apple is planning to use one to offset the other, much less turn into an ad company. It's like saying that Apple is a dongle company because they sell adaptors for the headphone jack, never mind that the money from its sales would probably be a rounding error on their balance sheet.

A lot of accusations towards Apple don't really make sense when you actually stop and think about it for more than 2 seconds.
Hardly.

What the iPhone shortage simply means is that people will defer their iPhone purchases from this quarter to the next. The net result will be that Apple reports less revenue this quarter, and makes up for it in the next.

Subscription prices are up because content costs more to make / license, and ads are there because Apple is in a unique position to facilitate a relationship between developers and customers while continuing to respect our privacy.

Ad revenue is also a drop in the bucket compared to iPhone revenue, so I have no idea how anyone could in their right mind imagine that Apple is planning to use one to offset the other, much less turn into an ad company. It's like saying that Apple is a dongle company because they sell adaptors for the headphone jack, never mind that the money from its sales would probably be a rounding error on their balance sheet.

A lot of accusations towards Apple don't really make sense when you actually stop and think about it for more than 2 seconds.
Statistically, iPhone sales peak same year Q4 upon release (47% of total annual sales) and ramp-down the following year as consumers anticipate a new launch with new features. Since this situation is completely unique, the jury is still out on whether consumer demand will remain strong in Q1-Q2 in traditionally nominal quarters for iPhone sales. What we do know is that iPhone alone drives 52% of Apple’s total company profit. Due to such, this poses a significant business hurdle to overcome. I agree that economic changes are a contributing factor to increasing prices, but across-the-board price increases to product, services, and increasing media impressions will help to ensure meeting financial forecast targets. Time will tell how this will play out.
 
Yep, it all looks the same on the scorecard. Whether you buy Apple because they are the best or least worst, the shareholders are still happy.
Even if Apple is less bad, at least you know what you get with Google, MS etc.. Apple is supposed to be the pristine experience you don't mind paying more for. Them even being "less bad" is 10x worse because of what expectations are
 
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I swear whenever an app is updated it's not just downloading new code to update, but sending information about you and your device back to the developer. Including Apple. Then, magically, you start seeing ads based on that data. Even with everything turned off. I get that companies need to survive. What happened to the old days by word of mouth? If your services are good, "that" good, people will talk about it and recommend it. We don't need intrusive ads to force sales. I mean really, when I buy a desk or some inanimate piece of furniture, it is simply just that. A piece of furniture. It's not selling me or advertising to me all kinds of other things to buy for my life. So if I buy a phone it should be just that. A phone. I use it as a tool and it serves its purpose well. It should not be a conduit for greed from people I don't even know.
 
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I don’t think the ads in the App Store are obtrusive. They are marked as being an ad, so what is the big deal? I don’t see them showing up anywhere else except as rumors, so why doesn’t everyone just put their outrage on hold until we see the implementation?
I agree. And truth be told, I found a couple apps from being in the store and having an ad popup.
 
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NOW: We make money by making premium products from the brand equity that we have gained in the last 20 or so years.
It’s true. Apple is making money on improving products that are very popular. They are also making money by inventing new useful products for apple customers.
We also increasingly extract incremental revenue from our large user base ('services')
How do they extract incremental revenue? Do they reach into a wallet with the jaws of life and forcibly extract every last cent from a wallet? Or do they offer useful service bundles that entice a customer to further buy into the ecosystem?
as we see that our cash cow is becoming a mature product and will soon not drive the revenue levels that our shareholders have become accustomed to.
There is I suppose an upper limit to record breaking revenues
 
How do they extract incremental revenue? Do they reach into a wallet with the jaws of life and forcibly extract every last cent from a wallet? Or do they offer useful service bundles that entice a customer to further buy into the ecosystem?
Obviously there's no problem with Apple offering TV+, Music, iCloud etc. (though it's not great that they - and Google etc. - can offer them on terms more advantageous than 3rd parties - but let's not get into that).

These services are optional and you need to intentionally subscribe to them. That's all good.

I think that the problem starts when services = ads i.e. you're being monetised simply for using the core system apps (if Apple is going to expand beyond the App Store, as we're discussing (not that I think that App Store ads are great either).

Especially when TC spent so much time over the last few years attacking Facebook and Google as being ad businesses where you pay with your privacy... But it's OK if Apple does it?

Having said that - I wouldn't have a problem if Apple offered Podcasters ads in Podcasts, or if they had an ad-supported Music or Apple TV. Though I'd want to be sure that there wasn't tracking and privacy implications.

I think that that would be OK experience-wise as we all use ad-supported services like this (and radio and TV have had ads since the 30s and 50s) and we're all OK with what that entails.

My issue is that more about if we start to see ads in the core experience of iOS or Mac.
 
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Obviously there's no problem with Apple offering TV+, Music, iCloud etc. (though it's not great that they - and Google etc. - can offer them on terms more advantageous than 3rd parties - but let's not get into that).

These services are optional and you need to intentionally subscribe to them. That's all good.

I think that the problem starts when services = ads i.e. you're being monetised simply for using the core system apps (if Apple is going to expand beyond the App Store, as we're discussing (not that I think that App Store ads are great either).

Especially when TC spent so much time over the last few years attacking Facebook and Google as being ad businesses where you pay with your privacy... But it's OK if Apple does it?

Having said that - I wouldn't have a problem if Apple offered Podcasters ads in Podcasts, or if they had an ad-supported Music or Apple TV. Though I'd want to be sure that there wasn't tracking and privacy implications.

I think that that would be OK experience-wise as we all use ad-supported services like this (and radio and TV have had ads since the 30s and 50s) and we're all OK with what that entails.

My issue is that more about if we start to see ads in the core experience of iOS or Mac.
Apple is a hardware company that offers devices on the side. It’s not an ad company that offers hardware and services on the side. I could care less about ads as long as they do t detract from the experience and my data isnt going outside of apple to serve me an ad.

For example if I search for Macdonalds in apple maps I might expect to see an ad for the Macdonalds app in the App Store. But if I search for the Macdonalds app, presenting an ad for Macdonalds in maps while I’m driving would annoy me to no end.
 
For example if I search for Macdonalds in apple maps I might expect to see an ad for the Macdonalds app in the App Store. But if I search for the Macdonalds app, presenting an ad for Macdonalds in maps while I’m driving would annoy me to no end.
👍 That's exactly what I'm talking about.
 
To where, Does Android have less Ads? I’ve stopped using Apple’s podcast app, and cut my podcast listening in general, because of the Ads.
Android have ads, that's why I have stayed away from them. But if I need to choose between a Pixel 6A (399e) or iPhone 14 (1039e) or 14Pro (1349e) and they all spew ads on me, I don't think even two seconds before I buy the Pixel.

I've paid for an ad free environment and I intend to have it - or if I can't have it anymore I won't pay the Apple premium. Got 14 Pro Max now and I can say I'm underwhelmed by the camera. My previous 11 Pro Max worked better.
 
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Android have ads, that's why I have stayed away from them. But if I need to choose between a Pixel 6A (399e) or iPhone 14 (1039e) or 14Pro (1349e) and they all spew ads on me, I don't think even two seconds before I buy the Pixel.

I've paid for an ad free environment and I intend to have it - or if I can't have it anymore I won't pay the Apple premium. Got 14 Pro Max now and I can say I'm underwhelmed by the camera. My previous 11 Pro Max worked better.
Doesn’t work for me, the interoperability with my other Apple devices is to good to give up. I understand it’s hard to argue one pays for an Ad free environment with free podcast and other apps. I don’t work for free.
 
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