Being levered out of the ecosystem doesn’t necessarily mean moving into another. Probably the slow death of less use over fewer devices.
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Report Reveals Apple Employees Internally Unhappy With Plans to Show More Ads to iPhone Users
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Last year I saw the movie demolition man, and this sounds more demolition man than 1984.
I’m so impressed with this comment, merely upvoting it doesn’t seem like enough recognition
Certainly, Jobs was a greedy businessman just like Cook is. The difference between them is that Jobs had the rare combination of having business acumen with the beating heart of an artist.
No way Tim Cook would give a typeface a second of thought where Jobs would not only think but obsess about getting it right.
"Those who dream by night, in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible."
Tim Cook the former, Steve Jobs the latter.
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Statistically, iPhone sales peak same year Q4 upon release (47% of total annual sales) and ramp-down the following year as consumers anticipate a new launch with new features. Since this situation is completely unique, the jury is still out on whether consumer demand will remain strong in Q1-Q2 in traditionally nominal quarters for iPhone sales. What we do know is that iPhone alone drives 52% of Apple’s total company profit. Due to such, this poses a significant business hurdle to overcome. I agree that economic changes are a contributing factor to increasing prices, but across-the-board price increases to product, services, and increasing media impressions will help to ensure meeting financial forecast targets. Time will tell how this will play out.
Even if Apple is less bad, at least you know what you get with Google, MS etc.. Apple is supposed to be the pristine experience you don't mind paying more for. Them even being "less bad" is 10x worse because of what expectations are
I swear whenever an app is updated it's not just downloading new code to update, but sending information about you and your device back to the developer. Including Apple. Then, magically, you start seeing ads based on that data. Even with everything turned off. I get that companies need to survive. What happened to the old days by word of mouth? If your services are good, "that" good, people will talk about it and recommend it. We don't need intrusive ads to force sales. I mean really, when I buy a desk or some inanimate piece of furniture, it is simply just that. A piece of furniture. It's not selling me or advertising to me all kinds of other things to buy for my life. So if I buy a phone it should be just that. A phone. I use it as a tool and it serves its purpose well. It should not be a conduit for greed from people I don't even know.
I agree. And truth be told, I found a couple apps from being in the store and having an ad popup.
I wouldnt be surprised if CSAM is there and we just dont know about it at this point.
It’s true. Apple is making money on improving products that are very popular. They are also making money by inventing new useful products for apple customers.
How do they extract incremental revenue? Do they reach into a wallet with the jaws of life and forcibly extract every last cent from a wallet? Or do they offer useful service bundles that entice a customer to further buy into the ecosystem?
There is I suppose an upper limit to record breaking revenues
I don’t want to see more ads. That’s why I’m paying the “Apple Tax”
Obviously there's no problem with Apple offering TV+, Music, iCloud etc. (though it's not great that they - and Google etc. - can offer them on terms more advantageous than 3rd parties - but let's not get into that).
These services are optional and you need to intentionally subscribe to them. That's all good.
I think that the problem starts when services = ads i.e. you're being monetised simply for using the core system apps (if Apple is going to expand beyond the App Store, as we're discussing (not that I think that App Store ads are great either).
Especially when TC spent so much time over the last few years attacking Facebook and Google as being ad businesses where you pay with your privacy... But it's OK if Apple does it?
Having said that - I wouldn't have a problem if Apple offered Podcasters ads in Podcasts, or if they had an ad-supported Music or Apple TV. Though I'd want to be sure that there wasn't tracking and privacy implications.
I think that that would be OK experience-wise as we all use ad-supported services like this (and radio and TV have had ads since the 30s and 50s) and we're all OK with what that entails.
My issue is that more about if we start to see ads in the core experience of iOS or Mac.
Apple is a hardware company that offers devices on the side. It’s not an ad company that offers hardware and services on the side. I could care less about ads as long as they do t detract from the experience and my data isnt going outside of apple to serve me an ad.
For example if I search for Macdonalds in apple maps I might expect to see an ad for the Macdonalds app in the App Store. But if I search for the Macdonalds app, presenting an ad for Macdonalds in maps while I’m driving would annoy me to no end.
Android have ads, that's why I have stayed away from them. But if I need to choose between a Pixel 6A (399e) or iPhone 14 (1039e) or 14Pro (1349e) and they all spew ads on me, I don't think even two seconds before I buy the Pixel.
I've paid for an ad free environment and I intend to have it - or if I can't have it anymore I won't pay the Apple premium. Got 14 Pro Max now and I can say I'm underwhelmed by the camera. My previous 11 Pro Max worked better.
Doesn’t work for me, the interoperability with my other Apple devices is to good to give up. I understand it’s hard to argue one pays for an Ad free environment with free podcast and other apps. I don’t work for free.