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The fact is most people don't want tiny phones. You might see people confessing their love of their Minis on here or someother sites but that's a very vocal minority and out there in the real world people want 6-7" phones. Not silly little 5.4" toy phones.

I have a 6.7" iPhone and feel that's too small for me. I'd be happy if Apple made a 7.1-7.3" model.
 
You'd be content if they discontinued your preferred model? Probably not.

Many of us don't want giant phones. Apparently just not enough to be worth it for Apple to accommodate.

Well hey several of my favorite products got discontinued. The iPod? Gone. XServe? Also gone. iPhones with headphone jacks? Super super gone. Vanilla unibody Macbooks that aren't crap? Yeah that's gone lmao. Apple's gonna follow what makes them the most money, and while all these products were great, they weren't optimal to maximum profit despite all these made people happy.

Now if the Mac Mini ever got discontinued for some reason, then I'll be in the trenches with ya.
 
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What a silly proclamation.

"A version of the current model that's available for sale currently is more popular than a version of the prior model that's not available for sale right now (and for which there is no comparable-sized version in the current line-up)."

Duh...
 
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I'd love a mini pro, but I might be alone... So I'll "survive" with my 14P.

That, at least from the outside, seems to have been the problem with the mini. Lots of people like small phones, but a pocketable phone is just one factor in purchases. Making it the same thickness as the other phones (and thus much worse battery life) made the phone a much worse choice for some consumers, and then not having a pro version (so you had to either choose the size, or the much better camera systems, ProMotion, etc.) meant all the well-heeled went, begrudgingly or not, with the fancier phone. When it came to trade up from my 6, I splurged on the XS primarily because I didn't want the size of the XR, but that's not a calculation I think many people make.

I'm hopeful that there's enough of us for whom small is an overriding factor (I miss the 2X optical of my XS, but I prefer the light portability of my 13 mini) that Apple will cater to us every few years so there's an upgrade path, but I think by and large the market has spoken, and Apple doesn't seem interested in creating the niche that would allow the mini phones to do their best. It's not at all shocking to me that a larger base phone would do better.
 
People who bought the Plus bought it because they can’t afford the Pro Max. People who bought the mini bought it because they LOVED it. That makes a huge difference.

Or maybe they want the gigantic battery, but not the hefty weight of a ProMax? I held a 14 Plus and 14 Pro Max a few times and the weight difference is quite noticeable. It makes the Plus a very compelling phone.
 
The conclusion reached in this report is flat wrong, demonstrably wrong. Most purchasers of the “mini” form-factor were 5s/SE (1st Gen) owners who had been waiting several years for a replacement phone of the same size, and jumped on the 12 mini, almost immediately. They had eschewed the iPhone 6, 6s, 7, 8, and SE (2nd Gen), purposely… why the f would they y-o-y jump on the 13 mini when it offered little improvement over the 12 mini they already owned? So this interpretation of sales numbers of the 13 mini is stupid; they should be comparing to the 12 mini with an adjustment for overall market size progress… and doing that, the mini size crushes the 14 Plus.

My opinion: Apple is a $2T+ company… give your customers BOTH, ya morons! The mini motherboard should be used in all non-Pro iPhones and iPads, with the remaining volume going to battery. The production advantage is obvious. (That Apple does not do this at this point exposes the sham of their reputation for supply chain mastery and their greed.)

It somewhat amuses me to see all the OBVIOUS goal-seeking that goes on against the small phone form-factor. It’s like there is an evil secret cabal amassed against us owners who prefer small pocketable phones! It is borderline absurd how the small phones get treated, as a topic. (My hypothesis is that Apple is behind it, in an attempt to rewrite history, wherein they had publicly, steadfastly, stubbornly, promoted the small phone form-factor in the face of Android’s stunning growth-rate on the shoulders of large-slab form-factors. It was an embarrassing PR attempt against the “great unwashed” that failed, spectacularly, and made Apple look foolish. Of course, we mini owners realize the Apple designers were correct. Of course.)
 
I suggest they check again.

Long live the iPhone Mini!
If anyone wants a Mini they need to buy the last generation (13) model. Maybe it ain't dead yet but I bet it will be in about 6 months time. It's likely the only phones that Apple will sell are the 15 series, iPhone 14, iPhone 13, and SE.

With the small battery inside the Mini they aren't going to last long. You'll need to pay for a battery replacement.

Apple is going to kill off the Mini and those who bought them will be replacing the battery every couple years. The Mini is going to need all the "Long live the iPhone Mini!" it can get.
 
Color be surprised. I've never seen a 14 plus (or a 14 pro max) in the wild; all I usually see are regular and mini 12 and 13 series.
In my experience I've never seen anyone use an iPhone Mini or Plus. It's either the standard model or Pro Max.
You need to get out more then.
Yeah, when you call outside "the wild" you definitely need to get some fresh air :D
 
Another way to read those charts would be:
14 Plus panels were produced rather much in the month before release (August till October), then fell to basically nothing (November till January) and increased a bit again before the release of the yellow version.
That sounds more like building stock that apparently not that much people bought (at least in the beginning).

For the 13 mini panels: it's not much but continuous. So the 13 mini has been produced less but those phones produced could be sold apparently as new ones continued to be manufactured. In contrast to the 14 plus of which more units have been manufactured but not sold and therefore production went down to basically nothing for a while as it did not sell.
 
If i’m interpreting the charts correctly it seems that the pros and the regular iphones (not dividing them by size) are quite evenly split, which surprises me since i always got the impression that the regular iphones outsell the pro models.
 
I bought my 13 mini approx 400 dollars cheaper than the 14 plus. Granted u get more real estate and a few incremental upgrades, but that 14 plus wasn't worth the extra at that time. That new yellow one sucks by the way. Waay too tacky. A real lemon. I'm gonna wait ....and wait...invest ....until that bazooka periscope phone is in full swing and the notch goes underground ... the 13 mini is good for 3-4 years anyway. Thank god I could get a good price on it when I could.
 
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I think the mini has its place in the line up. Maybe only every other iteration gets a mini, and maybe they should only make a smaller run, but it's not that they arent selling any; they just aren't selling near as many as the others. Looking at it from a different perspective, what percentage of Macs sold are Pros? Just because proportionally they don't sell near as many as say macbook airs, there is still a need in the lineup. Obviously the price margins are different, but the point remains: you don't have to have a lineup of number 1 sellers
 
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There is a very good reason why: A lot of people around the world depend on their phone to do their job, not their laptops.

The laptop class is quickly becoming a minority. The phone class is the majority.

This is especially true in poorer countries. If you're going to have one computing device, buy the one with the big screen.

I'm part of the laptop class so I own a 13 Mini. In fact, I have a 16" MBP. A bigger phone has very little use to me except the better battery life.

I totally agree. If you have an iPhone, an iPad and a “real” computer, then mini offers a great iPhone option. However, if you need to rely on one device only, then the bigger the screen, the better.
 
Being in the laptop class, I used to not understand why people love big phones so much. Then I had to find an apartment in another country and my real estate agent did all the work on a phone. Everything. Even the contract. I quickly understood why big phones are popular.

That real estate agent could have made their life much easier by using any iPad, as its split-screen takes our productivity to a whole new level. ;)
 
I have a suspicious feeling Mini is actually too small compared to the 6.1". The 5.7" would have been the exact same size as iPhone SE.
 
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If anyone wants a Mini they need to buy the last generation (13) model. Maybe it ain't dead yet but I bet it will be in about 6 months time. It's likely the only phones that Apple will sell are the 15 series, iPhone 14, iPhone 13, and SE.

With the small battery inside the Mini they aren't going to last long. You'll need to pay for a battery replacement.

Apple is going to kill off the Mini and those who bought them will be replacing the battery every couple years. The Mini is going to need all the "Long live the iPhone Mini!" it can get.
When Nokia stopped producing the 9210 Communicator, I remember some hardcore users bought a few extra units to store and use them when needed. Maybe Mini fans should do the same.
 
In that case, it could be argued that some people bought a 12 or 13 mini because they couldn't afford the “regular” 12 or 13. Other than the SE, the mini was the cheapest way to get an iPhone.

I can afford any iPhone out there, however it is also true that I do not want to pay a lot for a consumable I would most likely want to change in 2-3 years tops. FWIW, I was super happy to switch to a 12 mini from my previous iPhone 11.
 
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