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Reports of 50" Apple Television in Jonathan Ive's Lab as Talk Heightens Ahead of CES

smoledman said:
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#2 - How is Windows Phone a "dead, failed" device? It's not even properly launched yet.
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Surely, you jest. [And yes, I am calling you "Shirley."] Properly launched is a matter of debate. Properly launched or not, Windows Phone under various and sundry names have gone through many versions with Windows Phone 7.5 the 10th version and Windows Phone 8 soon to be the 11th.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. It is also the last refuge of the incurable Microsoft fan.
 
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Surely, you jest. [And yes, I am calling you "Shirley."] Properly launched is a matter of debate. Properly launched or not, Windows Phone under various and sundry names have gone through many versions with Windows Phone 7.5 the 10th version and Windows Phone 8 soon to be the 11th.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. It is also the last refuge of the incurable Microsoft fan.
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Oh come on, you aren't seriously comparing Windows Mobile 1-6.5 with Windows Phone 7? They're completely different platforms. I admit Microsoft should have called it the Microsoft Phone 1.0 to not confuse consumers. This is a totally new platform.
 
smoledman said:
#2 - How is Windows Phone a "dead, failed" device? It's not even properly launched yet.
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It's far from dead and failed, but it hasn't exactly succeeded yet, either. The major reason for this, at least in my opinion, is because there's barely any advertising for it. I think those "phones for people who want to live their lives" or whatever adverts ran for a month. Then? Nothing. Not even a peep. They just kinda threw it out there, said hey here's a neat phone, then expected it to sell.

Which it hasn't. Cuz barely anyone knows about it.
 
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It's far dead and failed, but it hasn't exactly succeeded yet, either. The major reason for this, at least in my opinion, is because there's barely any advertising for it. I think those "phones for people who want to live their lives" or whatever adverts ran for a month. Then? Nothing. Not even a peep. They just kinda threw it out there, said hey here's a neat phone, then expected it to sell.

Which it hasn't. Cuz barely anyone knows about it.
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Agreed the advertising has been haphazard at best so far. I think Samsung & HTC don't care how many Windows Phones they sell and Nokia is only coming out with the Lumia phones later this month.
 
smoledman said:
#1 - How is it smart for me to buy a 16GB iPhone 4S and have iTunes Match download every single song of my nearly 70GB music library and fill it up? I'd have to manually delete songs/albums to make space, that sounds stupid and that's why true streaming is important!

#2 - How is Windows Phone a "dead, failed" device? It's not even properly launched yet.
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#1 - iTunes Match doesn't make you download every single song. You download songs as you listen to them, after the initial iCloud backup/sync. You download individual songs, not your whole library.

#2- Windows and RIM are fighting over 3rd and 4th place in the smart phone space.
 
Irishman said:
#1 - iTunes Match doesn't make you download every single song. You download songs as you listen to them, after the initial iCloud backup/sync. You download individual songs, not your whole library.

#2- Windows and RIM are fighting over 3rd and 4th place in the smart phone space.
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Here's a money exchange I found on "Cult of Mac":
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A couple of questions come to mind - and I haven't read thru all the comments so these may have already been asked and possibly answered, but here goes anyway:

1. If you have to download songs using iCloud/iTunes Match, won't that eat up data just as much as streaming would?

2. How is iTunes Match gonna serve up my 125GB music collection on my 16GB iPhone or my 32GB iPad? It's NOT, that's how.

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1. No, because with streaming you stream a file every single time you play it - that's huge. The iCloud only downloads the files that are missing. But yes, it would be almost as data intensive as streaming if you're always buying/adding new music
2. This is why this version of the iCloud is a middle of the road solution that doesn't please anybody IMHO. People have massive collections of music these days. The main objective of the cloud is to abandon local storage, that's it, let's not come up with a solution that's not one thing nor the other...

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smoledman said:
Oh come on, you aren't seriously comparing Windows Mobile 1-6.5 with Windows Phone 7? They're completely different platforms. I admit Microsoft should have called it the Microsoft Phone 1.0 to not confuse consumers. This is a totally new platform.
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I wasn't comparing anything to anything. I was disputing your demonstrably false assertion that Windows Phone had not been properly introduced.

After Windows Phone 6.5 came Windows Phone 7. Windows Phone 7 has been replaced by currently available Windows Phone 7.5. Windows Phone 8 is soon to follow. When in smoledman-world will you admit that Windows Phone has been introduced?
 
Piggie said:
You think Apple could bring out a better looking TV than this slab of gorgeousness from LG ?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/07/lg-cinema-screen-lcd-hdtvs-slice-bezel-to-1mm-let-two-players-s/
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You make the classic mistakes of confusing styling with design and features with usability. I own an LG set that I purchased about 18 months ago. I loved my LG then. I love my LG now. Do I believe that the LG to be announced will be a lot nicer than the one I love? Yes! Do I believe that Apple can do better? In its sleep.
 
MisterMe said:
I wasn't comparing anything to anything. I was disputing your demonstrably false assertion that Windows Phone had not been properly introduced.

After Windows Phone 6.5 came Windows Phone 7. Windows Phone 7 has been replaced by currently available Windows Phone 7.5. Windows Phone 8 is soon to follow. When in smoledman-world will you admit that Windows Phone has been introduced?
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As a long time Windows Mobile user I can assure you it has absolutely no relation to Windows Phone, other than being produced by the same company. Put another way, Windows Phone is to Windows Mobile what iOS is to Newton OS.
 
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As a long time Windows Mobile user I can assure you it has absolutely no relation to Windows Phone, other than being produced by the same company. Put another way, Windows Phone is to Windows Mobile what iOS is to Newton OS.
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That statement and a dollar will get you a candy bar from the vending machine in the break room.
 
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