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Reports Suggest Mini-LED 'Blooming' Effect on New MacBook Pro Displays Not an Issue

"not an issue" here doesn't mean it's not an issue. it's more like "I don't care" or "I'm ignoring it because I refuse to say anything negative about my Apple toy". it looks fine in some content but on text/dark backgrounds it's definitely noticeable. Mini LED is good for TVs but shouldn't be in anything like an iPad/Laptop.

yeah sure it's better than a standard LCD but let's not kid ourselves on here: Mini LED is a stop gap technology. Apple will eventually move to OLED and then Micro LED. OLED is by far the superior technology when compared to Mini LED but of course it has it's own flaw which is a risk of burn in. I'll take the the risk it MIGHT happen after a couple years over having to deal with annoying blooming every time you look at the display as soon as it's out the box.

Micro LED is the true end goal. the LEDs will be so small they will be able to light up individual pixels instead of tens or hundreds of pixels with Mini LED. if there's any blooming with Micro LED it might spill over to the next pixel but you'll never notice that unless you put it under a microscope. of course Micro LED won't be at risk of burn in like OLED.

as long as Apple is using Mini LED i'm not touching their products. these MacBook Pros and even the iPad Pro should've came with an OLED display as it's currently the best tech available.
 
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In one of the tweets someone says:

| The XDR Display on the MacBook Pro has noticeably less blooming than iPad Pro, almost impeceptible really.

And I agree 100%. I have the 16" and I ran many HDR test films and didn't notice blooming on any object over a CM in size. When looking at a moving scene of a pitch black night sky with twinkling stars you can notice the LED array lighting and dimming but that's it. That's the only scenario I've been able to notice blooming, anything else it's perfection.

They did an incredible job with these displays.
 
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Full array local dimming tvs have this I notice it on our Sony Bravia tv of centre or on end credits.

I don’t find it that annoying if I’m head on to the tv and imagine it’s the same with the MacBook Pro?

Or are we talking it being noticed a lot head on too?

Still I don’t do professional photo editing, but I could see how this could be an issue if you need precise colour and brightness control over your work.
 
Of course it isn't quite as good as OLED in this respect, but all technologies are a compromise. You go OLED and you have the risk of burn in, which given that while on all day some elements are rather static (such as my dock) that would be a major concern.

On the other hand mini LED leads to blooming because the number of backlight zones is no where near the number of pixels. However this is better than older full array local dimming displays. I have two mini LED screens (my 14" MBP and a 49" Samsung monitor) and on both you CAN see blooming at the extremes, but it isn't apparent day to day. Prior to the most recent firmware update the Samsung did have bad issues with blooming so I know what it looks like when it goes wrong.

Maybe micro-LED will be the holy grail and we will have displays that won't suffer burn in or blooming, but that remains to be seen.

For 2021 with a computer aimed at people who may frequently have static elements on screen for long periods of time a mini LED panel made a lot of sense.
 
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That’s because most people don’t go to the same efforts to ‘prove’ how bad a Mac is. It’s very cool to hate on iPads.
 
Will be interesting on how "resolved" the issue is when starting to get real world reports from professionals - photographers, graphic artist, etc - where screen accuracy is imperative as the use Photoshop or other programs. Not as critical for an iPad as it is typically not the tool of choice for anything other than incidental in the field...but a laptop is a tool of choice, absent a desktop, for a finished product.
 
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Well, thanks Apple. - Me, who bought an iPad Pro thinking I would get a better screen than on a Macbook, and got a blooming mess.
 
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Here is hoping that the quality control is better from now on as well…
I’ve had 3 displays on my 2017 TB MBP, all with varying issues. A family member has a M1 with discoloured portions of the screen…
If these aren’t all consistently good, I hope that there will be heads rolling.
Converted, my Mac costed $1.9k, „refurbished“… 3 displays, all with quality issues, 4-5 top cases, all with issues (keyboard!, speakers, headphone jacks). Once I get my hands on one of the new ones I better not find anything to be wrong with them, except for the headphone jack position. Bye bye adapters -_- these quality issues better be resolved with this generation.
Who am I kidding ??
 
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Loudsilvereel said:
I would say 'traditional displays' don't have dimming zones, instead using a constant backlight across the whole display. Not quite right to say they control individual pixels unless you're referring to OLED.
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Came to say the same thing. The author obviously was conferring the properties of OLED displays onto traditional LCD displays, which tend to be edge lit or full array but with fewer (and often larger) LED's in the backlight. You're 100% right. In display tech, control of individual pixels is an OLED thing right now... microLED as well when it reaches mass market.
 
Mc0 said:
Is ghosting really that noticeable? I’ve only seen few videos online that were shot in slowmo so I don’t know if it’s that bad.
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very noticeable in my opinion, in used to my 144hz 1ms gaming monitor and the ghosting in the mbp is crazy
 
cupcakes2000 said:
That’s because most people don’t go to the same efforts to ‘prove’ how bad a Mac is. It’s very cool to hate on iPads.
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My favorite was twist gate (or something to that effect) where they would twist the new iPads to show you how the screen would crack. Really? I just laugh at that and especially this one video blogger who made a lengthy video on the subject.
 
ahrian said:
very noticeable in my opinion, in used to my 144hz 1ms gaming monitor and the ghosting in the mbp is crazy
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It's funny because compared to the previous 16" Intel the ghosting on these is like non-existent. But compared to low-latency gaming screens (I have a 165Hz 1ms one) it's much slower.

I've also found the 120Hz promotion rarely activates. Most apps are limiting it to 60Hz but once you see the 120Hz activate the ghosting feels almost eliminated.
 
Huh? Traditional displays control individual pixels? Well, so does the new display. But it controls groups of backlight LEDs… instead of just the whole screen.
 
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Where do these ridiculous images of blooming on the M1 iPad keep coming from? Makes it look like the screen is unusable. There is blooming. A tiny bit when it's white on black but only if you are in total darkness. It's not an issue. Maybe a side by side might reveal if there is more or the same amount of blooming on the new macs compared to the m1 instead of digging up photos that have been processed to make the blooming.

Anyone who hasn't got an m1 ipad looking at the image on this article - that is not how the screen is!
 
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Quu said:
It's funny because compared to the previous 16" Intel the ghosting on these is like non-existent. But compared to low-latency gaming screens (I have a 165Hz 1ms one) it's much slower.

I've also found the 120Hz promotion rarely activates. Most apps are limiting it to 60Hz but once you see the 120Hz activate the ghosting feels almost eliminated.
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Could you record in ufo test ur ghosting so we can compare?
 
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Could you record in ufo test ur ghosting so we can compare?
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I mean.... I tried the test and tried recording it on my iPhone but I don't think it works properly in Chrome yet the high refresh rate. There's lots of issues with promotion activation on these systems.

To me it looks good, low latency in general compared to my previous 16" Intel (which had atrocious ghosting).
 
These youtube reviewer charlatans finally admitting the iPad pro 12.9 mini LED is an awful blooming mess
 
Rayamedia said:
Where do these ridiculous images of blooming on the M1 iPad keep coming from? Makes it look like the screen is unusable. There is blooming. A tiny bit when it's white on black but only if you are in total darkness. It's not an issue. Maybe a side by side might reveal if there is more or the same amount of blooming on the new macs compared to the m1 instead of digging up photos that have been processed to make the blooming.

Anyone who hasn't got an m1 ipad looking at the image on this article - that is not how the screen is!
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Yep...they get those kinds of images by setting the screen at max brightness and then taking the picture in total darkness. In other words, it's not even remotely close to being a real world scenario.
 
playtech1 said:
The iPad goes up to 600nits whereas the MBP goes up to 500nits (on SDR content). Maybe the blooming is less because the brightness is a bit lower?
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Blooming only appears at high-brightness HDR content. It is invisible on SDR content. And both MBP and iPad have the same peak brightness for HDR.
 
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