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Reports Suggest Mini-LED 'Blooming' Effect on New MacBook Pro Displays Not an Issue

Not sure if I missed it but did apple mention how many mini-leds are in 14 and 16 inch MacBook pros? It would be interesting to see how it stacks up to the iPad Pro and the Pro display XDR.
 
alpi123 said:
Thanks for explaining. People don't realize that cameras exaggerate any display effects, including blooming or IPS glow. No way the first picture is what reality looks like.
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Sigh. I took that picture to show the backlight is still on in the black areas. Turns out that it’s just the mastering of that one particular movie itself… The same over-exposed photo of another movie (without elevated black levels) doesn’t exhibit this phenomenon.

Photos without context don’t help, eh? ???‍♂️
 
WilliamG said:
Sigh. I took that picture to show the backlight is still on in the black areas. Turns out that it’s just the mastering of that one particular movie itself… The same over-exposed photo of another movie (without elevated black levels) doesn’t exhibit this phenomenon.

Photos without context don’t help, eh? ???‍♂️
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What's the brightness level of the display in that photo? Reason for asking is that most "bloom" photos shown on the internet involve use of max brightness in a dark room, which is an incorrect setting if your goal is image/color accuracy. Max brightness is intended for bright environments, so using it in the dark is obviously going to cause problems.
 
gnipgnop said:
What's the brightness level of the display in that photo? Reason for asking is that most "bloom" photos shown on the internet involve use of max brightness in a dark room, which is an incorrect setting if your goal is image/color accuracy. Max brightness is intended for bright environments, so using it in the dark is obviously going to cause problems.
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Brightness is irrelevant. Those black areas should be black, and they are with a different movie. That was at 70% brightness, but again - that brightness is irrelevant since I purposefully overexposed it to show the elevated black levels (which turned out to be the movie itself, so disregard).
 
WilliamG said:
Brightness is irrelevant. Those black areas should be black, and they are with a different movie. That was at 70% brightness, but again - that brightness is irrelevant since I purposefully overexposed it to show the elevated black levels (which turned out to be the movie itself, so disregard).
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Not if you're talking about the quality/accuracy of images or color. Brightness level is not independent of those. It should be adjusted to the level that is appropriate for the available light in the room. That's true of OLED displays as well. The per pixel dimming doesn't change the fact that professional calibrations for dark rooms won't use high brightness settings.
 
gnipgnop said:
Not if you're talking about the quality/accuracy of images or color. Brightness level is not independent of those. It should be adjusted to the level that is appropriate for the available light in the room. That's true of OLED displays as well. The per pixel dimming doesn't change the fact that professional calibrations for dark rooms won't use high brightness settings.
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But we’re not talking about that… ?
 
I jokingly said a few weeks ago "after release, queue the blooming complaints."

I'm Nostradamus.
 
I'm sure it's not. Just like when they said that the blooming on the iPad is not a big deal, but you can clearly see it with low brightness settings and dark mode.
 
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KirekkusuPT said:
Well, thanks Apple. - Me, who bought an iPad Pro thinking I would get a better screen than on a Macbook, and got a blooming mess.
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I wouldn't put too much stock into this article. It references reviewers who rarely say anything remotely critical of Apple.

There have been several posters here with both the m1 iPad Pro 12.9 and the new MBPs that have said the MacBooks are worse for blooming.

I trust the objective minded posters on these forums to internet reviewers. Only time I trust them is if they provide evidence using side by side video or shots using calibrated camera and device settings. Lets wait for those.
 
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Saturnine said:
You have to be really careful even hearing colloquial reports of issues. Last night somebody on this forum complained that blooming on the new MBPs is dreadful. They posted this picture….

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They’re the end credits of Blade Runner 2049, as seen in HDR.

Fortunately, I have one of the new MacBooks myself and couldn’t be happier with it. Any blooming is honestly barely noticeable. I couldn’t believe that the above picture was real, or at least not representative of what’s actually seen in person, so I checked…

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As you can see, my photo almost looks like a screenshot. It’s not, it’s a picture taken with my iPhone. It’s absolutely representative of what I could see in person. That’s with the display brightness maxed out.

The person who posted the original picture either has a faulty unit or there’s something else going on altogether and, I suspect, something nefarious.
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That poster you referenced clearly stated that the picture he posted was intentionally overexposed to make the issue more visible. He also posted a video of what it actually looked like to his eyes using adjusted exposure settings.

What exposure settings did you use for your picture? It is easy to make any screen look like OLED with auto camera settings as it will crush the blacks.
 
Where in that YouTube vid does he talk about blooming? I did skim through it, as he waffles on a LOT, but I watched the entire chapter on the screen, and there was nothing about blooming?
 
gnipgnop said:
Yep...they get those kinds of images by setting the screen at max brightness and then taking the picture in total darkness. In other words, it's not even remotely close to being a real world scenario.
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My ipp 12.9 has rather visible blooming when in completely dark room with screen brightness set to minimum and browsing Twitter in dark mode.
 
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Mc0 said:
Is ghosting really that noticeable? I’ve only seen few videos online that were shot in slowmo so I don’t know if it’s that bad.
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It’s a noticeable annoyance on OLED iPhones, even without ProMotion. I believe that these screens are even worse. At least for me it is and might be.
 
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Of course, using some sort of screen protector could make blooming more apparent, especially at more unusual angles when looking at the screen.
 
Pretty pathetic that
VaruLV said:
My ipp 12.9 has rather visible blooming when in completely dark room with screen brightness set to minimum and browsing Twitter in dark mode.
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the iPad ‘pro’ can’t even handle something simple like displaying text properly, sad
 
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