FYI, you can still download older macOS/OS X versions. You just have to find the help article. I agree though, it should be a simpler process.Yeah but it's a command line tool and not everyone wants to venture into Terminal. And then you still have to get the stupid App Store to LET you download it. Right now on my Mac Mini 2018, upgraded to Big Sur, if I am on the App Store, and I search for Catalina or Mojave (Both supported), it finds nothing. They are now effectively locking you out from downgrading if you don't have the install media created previously.
Why can't they just provide a GUI version in System Preferences? So you can install every OS your Mac supports at the click of a button.
I've had issues with Internet Restore too on some Macs.
Just delete those apps, it is macaoS not windowsI just received my M1 MacBook Pro and Macbook Air. Because I don't need any of the included software, it is always my procedure to restore the operating system without things like garage band and iMovie.
it a mess. last 2 week i want to clean up old mac mini . No dmg in apple developer like old days . In the end restart, clear all disk drive and install internet thing and it install yosimete and upgrade back to catalina and upgrade to big surr beta. the main problem old macos don't have the 2fa.FYI, you can still download older macOS/OS X versions. You just have to find the help article. I agree though, it should be a simpler process.
It is a risk on day one / new OS. Very little related to Apple Silicon.Another reason why First Gen products are risky...
Been on OS X since the paid public beta (which was $29).I gotta say, this is not on the list of things I like
Well, that will either be short-lived or you’re going to find that pretty much all platforms suck.
The reality is software systems are simply getting bigger and more complex. This has less to do with Apple’s software QA and more to do with painful realities. (And if you value stability you’re always better off waiting for major updates anyway on every platform.)
Anyone who thinks Apple software is of lesser stability or quality now clearly didn’t use the original OS X or even the awful OSes before that.
For all the talk of “bloat” and instability these days, the truth is that the minimum requirements are orders of magnitude more complex than 20 years ago. People should really spend more time focusing on what they like from platforms rather than looking for something with better QA. If you really want stability, use Ubuntu LTS.
And manually go through Application support library folder where Garageband keeps most of its files. There is a point in restoring a new mac and it should obviously work out of the box.I understand the whole desire to wipe the new Mac & "start clean" but you can delete those stock apps from Launch Pad without having to go through that hassle.View attachment 1671450
Meanwhile Apple will definitely improve the restoration process.
They acted like a windows user, that is what they do to get rid of all of the junk ware that comes on new windows machines. It’s quicker and cleaner reinstall windows cleanly. A Mac user has no reason to do this as you can simply remove the applications and they leave little to no files behind. Although, in this case it seems Big Sur has some issues with reinstallation which Apple need to fix pronto.I’m not sure why you would restore a brand new system upon receiving it. That’s just so bizarre to me! You could just remove iMovie or GarageBand and be good to go.
Trying to perform a restore on a publicly released product isn't User Error.Why would you need to restore already? The machine has only been out for 1 day! Did you try to format your root drive? User error!
if it bricks the computer forcing the apple genius to replace the unit for me, yeah... panicOh no a function on a days old product doesn't work perfectly and may need a minor revision! EVERYONE PANIC.
The reason for the restore is really irrelevant to the fact that restoration failed. It just works!They acted like a windows user, that is what they do to get rid of all of the junk ware that comes on new windows machines. It’s quicker and cleaner reinstall windows cleanly. A Mac user has no reason to do this as you can simply remove the applications and they leave little to no files behind.
2020 has been one f’up after another for Microsoft. Office and outlook issues, Windows 10 2004 issues, Windows 2H20 issues, TPM support issues. The list goes on And we haven’t even mentioned their ongoing Surface hardware issues...I have a 2016 Dell and a 2019 MBP.
I think I’ve had to reboot the MBP more in two years than the Dell in five years.
If I ditched Apple, I’d miss iWork and iLife, but honestly, I think I’d go ahead and just go Windows only sooner than I’d go Mac only. Windows 10 is for Windows what Snow Leopard was for the Mac - rock steady. It just works. No pointless annual releases that reskin everything for the worse and somehow introduces a boatload of bugs despite delivering no worthwhile features.
I feel so blessed that my pair of Windows 10 babies survived this terrible update that totally screwed the other 900 million Windows 10 PCs? 😂😂😂Really not sure why you would have to "babysit" Apple devices. I have 4 Macs, 3 iPhones, 4 iPads, 3 Apple Watches amongst a host of other gear in our household. It's rare that anything actually goes wrong. What's more, a report or two of somebody having an error on restore on a day-old M1-based Mac is not something to think "right, that's enough, I am moving back to Windows PCs from now on". Of course, it's your money, your choice, but a bit of an over-reaction to say the least. Have to agree that Apple's QC is not what it used to be, but it's still better than Windows. A year or so ago, they released a Windows 10 update that totally screwed most of the machines it was installed on. Nobody is perfect. At least Apple control the hardware AND software so when the occasional glitch happens, they fix it.
This is the things that give tech support nightmares. You give an end user a brand new computer and they'll figure out a way to break it. You can't predict this stuff but Apple will patch it. It's like the guy who invented the electrical outlet didn't think anyone would stick forks in them. We're still waiting for that patchJust delete those apps, it is macaoS not windows
I just said to someone today: Apple has one of the most powerful personal computers starting at $899 (EDU pricing), and yet I'm still probably going to move to Windows because the software quality has gotten so much worse over time. But then I thought: Well maybe the M1 Macs will be different! And then I see this. And honestly I have no idea what Windows is like. I probably last used it in the year 2000. Just tired of having to babysit my Apple devices.