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1) This is a matter of preference. To me the Finder has, and always will be, far superior to the crap Microsoft has. It is basically IE as a file finder. UGH. If you really want to use a path to open a folder you go to the Finder and type Command-G and type the UNIX-style path name and hit enter.

2) The registry is the biggest POS in software history. It is a big mess. Configuration files per application make a lot of sense. This is how every other piece of software operated. Microsoft is the outlier.

3) ???? Are you joking? I don't even know how to respond to that.
I guess if you were such an expert you would realise that virtually all modern windows software uses configuration files rather than the registry these days?
 
Even the previous IOUSBFamily which is still open, it still have quirks. Some controller and drivers for controlling tangent panels and some usb control panels refuse to works. Those hardware run fine on Windows and older version of OSX (El Capitan), but not in recent release (Mojave).

I bet Big Sur is same, and more worst since it's now closed.
Some of this is Microsoft's fault. With Windows you must have a driver in order for a USB device to work. Since this requires extra work on the vendor many have chosen to use the HID spec to get the default driver. This does not play well with either macOS or Linux. I once bought a device that did it's firmware update (many megabytes) through 64-byte HID reports. This is an abuse of the HID spec but it does get around the windows driver issue. Needless to say this had caused me numerous headaches over the years.
 
I guess if you were such an expert you would realise that virtually all modern windows software uses configuration files rather than the registry these days?
I honestly don't care what Windows currently does. I was responding to a comment that was complaining about all the config files in macOS.
 
I honestly don't care what Windows currently does. I was responding to a comment that was complaining about all the config files in macOS.
for you maybe not , for me finding way to reduce ram usage is a must either using mac or windows or linux .
 
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The reason I didn’t just “delete the apps“ is because simply deleting the .app file in the finder It’s because often times, there are access files stored in difficult to find places. Garage band stores the samples in the library under application support I think. When I have five or six apps to uninstall, it’s just easier to restore the computer without them and go do something else
 
for you maybe not , for me finding way to reduce ram usage is a must either using mac or windows or linux .
Config files aren't going to get you memory savings. If you are getting savings by editing the registry in Windows that is, honestly, frightening. Memory usage is far too complicated to understand how changing a application parameter will help. If you want to see how memory is being using then open up /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app and take a look what is using the memory. I have been using macOS since OS7 and the only time I have seen excessive swapping is in the last 8 months and it was entirely Chrome's fault.
 
Wow I made the front page!

The reason I didn’t just “delete the apps“ is because simply deleting the .app file in the finder It’s because often times, there are access files stored in difficult to find places. Garage band stores the samples in the library under application support I think. When I have five or six apps to uninstall, it’s just easier to restore the computer without them and go do something else
Yup. Nothing wrong with wanting to start will a clean install. Not sure why there are so many complaining about it. Apple missed a critical step in Big Sur testing and they need to fix it. I am going to try the USB install method to see if that works.
 
The first thing I would have done is at least time machine back up the installation that comes from the factory. So, if the restore does not work, you should restore the Time Machine backup.
 
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Config files aren't going to get you memory savings. If you are getting savings by editing the registry in Windows that is, honestly, frightening. Memory usage is far too complicated to understand how changing a application parameter will help. If you want to see how memory is being using then open up /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app and take a look what is using the memory. I have been using macOS since OS7 and the only time I have seen excessive swapping is in the last 8 months and it was entirely Chrome's fault.
i can either using services.msc,gpedit or regedit to remove unnessary service and linux distro you also have gui for removing unwanted service. For macos , you can remove some daemon thing but still i want to see more.

Yeah for my work its normal but you maybe not.
 
i can either using services.msc,gpedit or regedit to remove unnessary service and linux distro you also have gui for removing unwanted service. For macos , you can remove some daemon thing but still i want to see more.

Yeah for my work its normal but you maybe not.
man launchctl. All "services" are managed by launchd. Very similar to the concept of init.d in Linux. launchctl list even shows you the PID of the running process. You can then take a look and see what it is using.

But this is literally a preference thing. I can work with and know how to control services with init in Linux and and launchd in macOS. If Windows is what you know then that is what you will gravitate to. I, personally, find everything about Windows; from software management, to services, the registry, USB drivers (or and drivers for that matter), etc an affront to good software design. I can not stand using it for more than 30 mins at a time.
 
You clearly do care enough to call it a POS?
I called the registry a POS. What I don't care about is what Windows currently does :). If it is better, fine, but that doesn't change the fact that the registry was being pointed out a "good" thing. It's like calling bud light good beer. Even those who like it know it isn't good (or technically beer-- it is 40% rice).
 
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Being able to downgrade MacOS is super-important for some users. It's one of the few things I hate about iOS; for example I wish I could put iOS 6 on my old iPhone 5 for nostalgic reasons but I can't because Apple is stubborn.
Is nostalgia a super-important reason?
 
Yup. This is 100% a Big Sur bug. I went to wipe and reinstall to reformat as APFS case-sensitive (are we really by default installing a case-insensitive volume-- this isn't winbloze) and hit this issue immediately. Big Sur is another buggy .0 release from Apple. Their hardware is awesome but their software at version x.0 has always a problem. Nothing beats the crap that was 10.11. The rewrote IOUSBFamily, made it closed-source (previously was open), and totally screwed up the stack outside of basic HID. It took them at least a major version to fix that crap and it still has issues. To make matters worse I can't even see the code to see what they could have messed up.
Thats the default because this is macOS, not Unix. Case sensitive is there for legacy Unix certification reasons, and there's a lot of commercial software that doesn't work properly on case sensitive file systems. Same thing with setting a root password and other fiddling with the innards. Ymmv may vary of course, but it's always dangerous to step outside the Apple sandbox.

Dont get me wrong, this is a face plant, and it's not the first time. I had to restore a brand new mbp a few years back because of a failed migration, and the internet restore didn't have the special build for that machine on the servers yet. You'd think they would have learned....
 
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Thats the default because this is macOS, not Unix. Case sensitive is there for legacy Unix certification reasons, and there's a lot of commercial software that doesn't work properly on case sensitive file systems. Same thing with setting a root password and other fiddling with the innards. Ymmv may vary of course, but it's always dangerous to step outside the Apple sandbox.

Dont get me wrong, this is a face plant, and it's not the first time. I had to restore a brand new mbp a few years back because of a failed migration, and the internet restore didn't have the special build for that machine on the servers yet. You'd think they would have learned....
Indeed. If Apple pushed harder vendors would support it better. Apple should not provide an option they do not intend application developers to support. One of the funny software issue I ran into was WoW. It downloaded a file with lots of different cases the proceeded to open it with all caps. I mean, come on, why?

For development I need a consistent environment between Linux and macOS. Linux is always case-sensitive so I have to make macOS match.
 
I gotta say, this is not on the list of things I like
I just said to someone today: Apple has one of the most powerful personal computers starting at $899 (EDU pricing), and yet I'm still probably going to move to Windows because the software quality has gotten so much worse over time. But then I thought: Well maybe the M1 Macs will be different! And then I see this. And honestly I have no idea what Windows is like. I probably last used it in the year 2000. Just tired of having to babysit my Apple devices.
Well, that will either be short-lived or you’re going to find that pretty much all platforms suck.

The reality is software systems are simply getting bigger and more complex. This has less to do with Apple’s software QA and more to do with painful realities. (And if you value stability you’re always better off waiting for major updates anyway on every platform.)

Anyone who thinks Apple software is of lesser stability or quality now clearly didn’t use the original OS X or even the awful OSes before that.

For all the talk of “bloat” and instability these days, the truth is that the minimum requirements are orders of magnitude more complex than 20 years ago. People should really spend more time focusing on what they like from platforms rather than looking for something with better QA. If you really want stability, use Ubuntu LTS.
 
I can tell the original Macintosh seasoned user base and the younger I grew up with IOS crowd. They don't understand why people want to have a system build to meet there technical needs.
Good point, they just want to take it out of the box and start using it like the appliance Steve Jobs wanted it to be. Fact is, though, that’s the market that’s growing so Apple’s going to keep leaning in that direction.

I’m going to enter the chat when higher-core-count and IPC m-series chips drop.
Eh, as they’re always releasing new products, anything you buy will be a beta for the next thing. That higher-core-count IPC m-series chip? It will be the first time it’s seen action inside a computer. :)

This is Apple, not Dell. Why would people think there is bloatware?
I know some folks that keep their cast iron skillets in the oven, just because that’s what their parents did. :) A lot of times, folks don’t think about what they’re doing they just do it! I don’t have the heart to tell them you don’t have to pump the gas before you start your car.
 
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First hold power button to completely shut off Mac. Then hold power button (only power button) as it turns on, keep holding until it says something like “other settings” loading (gets you to disk utility and stuff). Once there, *then* follow the instructions on the website Apple has to hold the power button along with the other ones to get it into DFU. it’s very unintuitive!
Tried this. Still cannot get into DFU.
 
man launchctl. All "services" are managed by launchd. Very similar to the concept of init.d in Linux. launchctl list even shows you the PID of the running process. You can then take a look and see what it is using.

But this is literally a preference thing. I can work with and know how to control services with init in Linux and and launchd in macOS. If Windows is what you know then that is what you will gravitate to. I, personally, find everything about Windows; from software management, to services, the registry, USB drivers (or and drivers for that matter), etc an affront to good software design. I can not stand using it for more than 30 mins at a time.
haha , for me all the same . more then 30 minute but in macos terminal/nano the most use compare finder. for main topic installation me okay big surr okay in my imac but now short circuit which make freakin scary for now.
 
haha , for me all the same . more then 30 minute but in macos terminal/nano the most use compare finder. for main topic installation me okay big surr okay in my imac but now short circuit which make freakin scary for now.
nano... ugh. that is enough to make anyone run for the hills. It is an open-source version of the editor used by the pine email client: pico (pine composer). It is terrible but at least it isn't vi :).
 
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Of course with newer file systems and SSD none of this matters. But many people never really understood why they were doing these "clean installs" on MS-DOS so they likely don't now see why it does not matter.
I did an internet deep dive into SSD’s a few months ago... someone asked me if they should defrag their macOS drive. :) They were going to BUY a program to do it! (some people are reading this and thinking, “Why not?”)

One last thing, Signing out is a process
Signing out of what?
 
Indeed. If Apple pushed harder vendors would support it better. Apple should not provide an option they do not intend application developers to support. One of the funny software issue I ran into was WoW. It downloaded a file with lots of different cases the proceeded to open it with all caps. I mean, come on, why?

For development I need a consistent environment between Linux and macOS. Linux is always case-sensitive so I have to make macOS match.

As I mentioned, it's only there as a legacy leftover, not as something that's supported or intended to be used on a boot volume. Same thing with putting files in /. People who did that had their data wiped a few versions ago. apples sandbox is getting tighter, not looser - witness all the problems that have cropped up by killing kexts As another example. Stepping outside the sandbox is ymmv.
 
I did an internet deep dive into SSD’s a few months ago... someone asked me if they should defrag their macOS drive. :) They were going to BUY a program to do it! (some people are reading this and thinking, “Why not?”)
I had someone ask me if spinrite would help refresh their ssd a couple of months ago....
 
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I too am running into this problem..

So I've never owned a Mac before, today decided to buy a MacBook Pro M1 model to see if I'd like it. Apparently I found out that this one program (Which I won't name) won't be able to run on it because it doesn't have a Mac version, and likely won't be updated for Mac since it's so old. And Wine can't be run on the M1's I heard because they are 'ARM' whatever that means?!

I tried to return the laptop to Best Buy earlier but couldn't because it was stuck. A) Stuck in a loop and they couldn't figure out how to fix it, and told me I'd have to let GeekSquad look at it to see if they can fix it (Which isn't free) and B) My Apple ID was still tied to the MacBook Pro and when I tried to remove it using Find My at the store the option to remove it wasn't showing up.

So first thing I do is call up Apple to ask how to restore the device to factory settings to wipe & remove my stuff (Though all I did was basically login to my Apple ID & browse the web, didn't even download anything). They immediately suggest I go into recovery mode and erase some stuff, then tell me to reinstall the OS. Tried to reinstall the OS like 4+ times, each time it fails.

Although I did finally manage to get the MacBook Pro removed from my Find My (I was able to remove it, and enter my password sucessfully to remove it) but it is still showing up in Find My for some reason. And when I start up the laptop into Recovery it says there's no activation lock, so hopefully it should be good for a return. If not the Advisor I spoke with told me to leave her a voice mail message via a link in an email she sent me at a certain time tomorrow (The time I'm going in for the return) and she will try and talk to Best Buy and explain to them what is going on.
 
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I too am running into this problem..

So I've never owned a Mac before, today decided to buy a MacBook Pro M1 model to see if I'd like it. Apparently I found out that this one program (Which I won't name) won't be able to run on it because it doesn't have a Mac version, and likely won't be updated for Mac since it's so old. And Wine can't be run on the M1's I heard because they are 'ARM' whatever that means?!

I tried to return the laptop to Best Buy earlier but couldn't because it was stuck. A) Stuck in a loop and they couldn't figure out how to fix it, and told me I'd have to let GeekSquad look at it to see if they can fix it (Which isn't free) and B) My Apple ID was still tied to the MacBook Pro and when I tried to remove it using Find My at the store the option to remove it wasn't showing up.

So first thing I do is call up Apple to ask how to restore the device to factory settings to wipe & remove my stuff (Though all I did was basically login to my Apple ID & browse the web, didn't even download anything). They immediately suggest I go into recovery mode and erase some stuff, then tell me to reinstall the OS. Tried to reinstall the OS like 4+ times, each time it fails.

Although I did finally manage to get the MacBook Pro removed from my Find My (I was able to remove it, and enter my password sucessfully to remove it) but it is still showing up in Find My for some reason. And when I start up the laptop into Recovery it says there's no activation lock, so hopefully it should be good for a return. If not the Advisor I spoke with told me to leave her a voice mail message via a link in an email she sent me at a certain time tomorrow (The time I'm going in for the return) and she will try and talk to Best Buy and explain to them what is going on.
just said it, we sometimes use alternative apps for time being.

ARM - like your phone processor . INTEL / AMD normal computer processor.

pretty sad day for u. If old macos intel, you still can use it "Microsoft Windows" using bootcamp.
 
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